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post #991 of 17469

I think we are pretty much similar in our taste in sound since besides the hd600s, I also have a Grado 225i to spice things up and an iem(VSONIC GR06) for portable use and isolation.

post #992 of 17469

Too true.

 

IMO the HD650 is more of a downgrade IMO. They are less clear, the bass is less controlled, and the mids are too forward and can become congested. The loss of treble also effects the detail retrieval as well as overall sense of dynamics/speed. The HD650's sound slower and everything seems lumped together. I've had ample time in the past to try them both side by side and the HD600 sounded drastically better. The HD650 is far too smooth and doesn't seem to have the same transient snap that the HD600 does. 

 

The HD650 I would only recommend is if the recording is overly bright or compressed. It seems to make all bad recordings or MP3's enjoyable, while the HD600 makes most MP3's sound bad.

 

That's the reason I went with the T1, it's like a upgraded HD600. It takes all the aspects of the HD600 that I liked and improved them further.

 

 

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Originally Posted by N0sferatu View Post

To the person who thinks the HD650 is better...they're not.  Don't just automatically assume because it's newer and has a higher model number that it's better.

 

They're both great headphones but both have their following for different reasons.  Financially I could have bought the HD650s instead of the HD600 but after hearing both I prefer the 600.


 

post #993 of 17469


I think I agree with you for once! I don't know if I'd call the HD-650 a downgrade, but just another flavor and some people may prefer it. I always felt the HD-650 had a more closed in soundstage and this may been why I preferred it for vocals. It just made the mids a little more forward sounding. Or maybe I was just fooled into this. Of course the HD-600 does have more upper mids.

 

I remember thinking the HD-600 had the more engaging sound for ME, but when I gave it a chance, it really wasn't true, but this was with stock cable. One thing I noticed is that the soundstage of the HD-600 was a bit more airy. Not sure why.

 

Felt the HD-650 was unusable for gaming due to it's bass, but I loved the HD-600 for gaming. HD-600 also felt fairly forgiving and not excessively detailed, but I always felt that the HD-650 was TOO forgiving. Cheap cables did change this a bit and bring out the detail a bit more though.

 

Thought the HD-650 was more clear than the HD-600. I guess I would say less grainy(?). I compared them side by side and rarely did either sound more clear. The only time the HD-650 sounded less grainy was during music with a large soundstage that was really simple, such as acoustic guitar music.

 

On my HD-650, the bass would often bleed into the mids and really cover up a lot of the detail. Strangely enough, this occurred less often on the...E9!!

 

BTW when are you going to try the HD-598? biggrin.gif HD-600/650 does a few things better, but the HD-598 is just addicting and fun to listen to. Doesn't sound like the old HD-595/555 I had. It's one of my top 3 favorite headphones.

 

I actually find the 598 more detailed than the HD-600 and less forgiving...I should probably run away right about now..

 

When I get extra money I'd like to get the HD-600 again just for gaming for when I need extra bass. Still need to compare that though..

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Originally Posted by Zombie_X View Post

Too true.

 

IMO the HD650 is more of a downgrade IMO. They are less clear, the bass is less controlled, and the mids are too forward and can become congested. The loss of treble also effects the detail retrieval as well as overall sense of dynamics/speed. The HD650's sound slower and everything seems lumped together. I've had ample time in the past to try them both side by side and the HD600 sounded drastically better. The HD650 is far too smooth and doesn't seem to have the same transient snap that the HD600 does. 

 

The HD650 I would only recommend is if the recording is overly bright or compressed. It seems to make all bad recordings or MP3's enjoyable, while the HD600 makes most MP3's sound bad.

 

That's the reason I went with the T1, it's like a upgraded HD600. It takes all the aspects of the HD600 that I liked and improved them further.

 

 


 



 

post #994 of 17469

Just got my 600's and HRT Music Streamer II. Still can't decide if I want to go with a D4 Mamba, Meier Audio 2StepDance, RSA Hornet, or a E17. Decisions Decisions

post #995 of 17469

I had a HD595 and HD598 side by side about a month back. Both need repairs to their cords and when the repairs were done I gave them a listen. I can say they sounded slightly different. The HD595 having a less warm and brighter signature while the HD598 being warmer and less bright. The bass was the same on both. I didn't find the HD598 better though. I liked the HD595's neutrality more. But the differences were so subtle between them I would say they are an equal ground SQ wise. I'd probably go with the HD595 and save some money.
 

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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post


I think I agree with you for once! I don't know if I'd call the HD-650 a downgrade, but just another flavor and some people may prefer it. I always felt the HD-650 had a more closed in soundstage and this may been why I preferred it for vocals. It just made the mids a little more forward sounding. Or maybe I was just fooled into this. Of course the HD-600 does have more upper mids.

 

I remember thinking the HD-600 had the more engaging sound for ME, but when I gave it a chance, it really wasn't true, but this was with stock cable. One thing I noticed is that the soundstage of the HD-600 was a bit more airy. Not sure why.

 

Felt the HD-650 was unusable for gaming due to it's bass, but I loved the HD-600 for gaming. HD-600 also felt fairly forgiving and not excessively detailed, but I always felt that the HD-650 was TOO forgiving. Cheap cables did change this a bit and bring out the detail a bit more though.

 

Thought the HD-650 was more clear than the HD-600. I guess I would say less grainy(?). I compared them side by side and rarely did either sound more clear. The only time the HD-650 sounded less grainy was during music with a large soundstage that was really simple, such as acoustic guitar music.

 

On my HD-650, the bass would often bleed into the mids and really cover up a lot of the detail. Strangely enough, this occurred less often on the...E9!!

 

BTW when are you going to try the HD-598? biggrin.gif HD-600/650 does a few things better, but the HD-598 is just addicting and fun to listen to. Doesn't sound like the old HD-595/555 I had. It's one of my top 3 favorite headphones.

 

I actually find the 598 more detailed than the HD-600 and less forgiving...I should probably run away right about now..

 

When I get extra money I'd like to get the HD-600 again just for gaming for when I need extra bass. Still need to compare that though..


 

 

 

post #996 of 17469

Try to go for a P4 "Warbler". You won't regret it......

 

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Originally Posted by Roan3489 View Post

Just got my 600's and HRT Music Streamer II. Still can't decide if I want to go with a D4 Mamba, Meier Audio 2StepDance, RSA Hornet, or a E17. Decisions Decisions



 

post #997 of 17469

I would throw in the Schiit Asgard for consideration as well.  I have one and I find it pairs very well with my HD600s.  Very good.
 

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Originally Posted by Roan3489 View Post

Just got my 600's and HRT Music Streamer II. Still can't decide if I want to go with a D4 Mamba, Meier Audio 2StepDance, RSA Hornet, or a E17. Decisions Decisions



 

post #998 of 17469

I bought a JDS Labs cMoy v2.03 BB and I will receive it on Monday.

 

John Seaber responded to an e-mail that I sent him within the hour yesterday. Why did this matter? Well, I e-mailed a few (I won't name) other companies on Tuesday about ordering their products, and just today started to hear back from them!  Double thumbs up for providing great c.s.

 

I have decided that I don't really want to spend a whole lot of money on something I'm just starting to learn and experience. Being that I'm fresh out of college and have roughly $10k worth of audio equipment, I think that it's time to start using my head a little more when it comes to these purchases. I read a post earlier today and it helped remind me.

 

"It is easy to get caught up in the equipment and lose sight of the main reason we got involved in this crazy hobby - the music. You can enjoy music equally as much on a $80 pair of headphones as an $800 pair."

 

Sorry to get off topic, just wanted to share and say that I have made a decision. I appreciate the input and feedback from others and think it's great that everyone is willing to help.

 

On another note (see what I did there), my HD-600s have been running now at mid to low volume on my Denon 4311 at home for the last two days and I have just one word to describe how they sound. WOW! Didn't really give them a listen when I first got them, so I hope they're starting to finally "break in". Driving from Des Moines, IA, to Kansas City, and then flying to Vancouver on Monday. Can't wait to get a chance to just sit and listen to some stuff for awhile.

 


Edited by Roan3489 - 1/20/12 at 1:45pm
post #999 of 17469

^ Well said.  The JDSlabs Cmoy is one of the best sub-100 dollar amp available, not to mention John's excellent customer service like you said.  Enjoy.smily_headphones1.gif

post #1000 of 17469

John's customer service is flat-out amazing considering how busy he's been lately.

post #1001 of 17469

Well guy's I've been looking forward to get a Headphone with darker, and warmer sound to listen to some Jazz, Blues, Rock and progressive rock. And the HD600's seems to be the perfect headphone, but I still have doubts about them and the HD650 :/, actually I'm listening throught a DT880 plugged to a LD MKIII + E7, but soon I'll be listening throught a turntable and for PC listening I'll buy a better DAC.

 

So which one do you think it's better for  Jazz, Blues, Rock and progressive rock listening?

post #1002 of 17469
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Originally Posted by Leiker535 View Post

Well guy's I've been looking forward to get a Headphone with darker, and warmer sound to listen to some Jazz, Blues, Rock and progressive rock. And the HD600's seems to be the perfect headphone, but I still have doubts about them and the HD650 :/, actually I'm listening throught a DT880 plugged to a LD MKIII + E7, but soon I'll be listening throught a turntable and for PC listening I'll buy a better DAC.

 

So which one do you think it's better for  Jazz, Blues, Rock and progressive rock listening?



I just spent my morning listening and using the HD600 throug a bottlehead crack and listened to blues, rock, fusion, and some Miles Davis and the HD600 sure kept up with all the genres.  You won't regret it. Between my Beyer 880 600 ohm and the HD600 for blues alone, I would vote for the HD600. Hope this shows a clear representation.

 

 

post #1003 of 17469
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Originally Posted by MilesDavis2 View Post



I just spent my morning listening and using the HD600 throug a bottlehead crack and listened to blues, rock, fusion, and some Miles Davis and the HD600 sure kept up with all the genres.  You won't regret it. Between my Beyer 880 600 ohm and the HD600 for blues alone, I would vote for the HD600. Hope this shows a clear representation.

 

 



I just finished building my Crack this afternoon and tried the HD600s.  Ah, this combo is something very, special.

post #1004 of 17469

does the 600 had a differences on the driver like hd650 ( silver and black ) ?

post #1005 of 17469

Hi,

 

Yes, the HD600 and HD650 had different driver revisions with the older models having the black mesh and the newer models having silver mesh. There is no sonic difference at all as I have both HD600 revisions in front of me right now. I did a lot of comparing with them and they sound identical. I also had both versions of the HD650 in the past and yet again the same results. So the belief that the newer versions are brighter is minimal at best.

 

Don't believe that nonsense. Just the typical Head-Fi hype and word of mouth is what makes you believe, plus since you expecting to hear that change, your mind will make it so you think you are hearing it.
 

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Originally Posted by punks15 View Post

does the 600 had a differences on the driver like hd650 ( silver and black ) ?


 


Edited by Zombie_X - 1/21/12 at 7:54pm
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