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post #8476 of 9598

Just ordered the 600 to complete my collection , finally :cool:

post #8477 of 9598
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Originally Posted by SunTanScanMan View Post
 

 

Sorry in advance for the obvious question, but have you connect the soundcard to the power supply? You need to push the molex plug in quite firmly and it's easy to think it's plugged in when it's not (at least with my card)

 

Also the usual - disable windows onboard sound in BIOS

I've done that, and switched to another PCI 1x slot that my capture card is in. Still nothing. Changed to two different molex's and both power my fans so idk. I hear the card click when changing outputs too. Would this click even if the molex isn't all the way in?


Edited by Sundown - 8/30/14 at 11:53am
post #8478 of 9598
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Originally Posted by Sundown View Post
 

I've done that, and switched to another PCI 1x slot that my capture card is in. Still nothing. Changed to two different molex's and both power my fans so idk. I hear the card click when changing outputs too. Would this click even if the molex isn't all the way in?

 

No, it wouldn't click in that case. You did the obvious stuff such as changing audio device to stx and checking volume levels, and the headphones are plugged in fully ?

 

 

 


Edited by SunshineReggae - 8/30/14 at 12:54pm
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Originally Posted by SunshineReggae View Post
 

 

No, it wouldn't click in that case. You did the obvious stuff such as changing audio device to stx and checking volume levels, and the headphones are plugged in fully ?

 

 

 

Yes sir. Set Asus to default playback device. Levels are MAX, both gain 300-600ohms with volume at 100%. Just  FAINT hint if sound. Super quiet. Sounds like it's on mute with that tiny bit of sound coming out on some devices such as tv's and what not. I came across this, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=86733 but have no idea how to change that on Windows since they're using Linux I think. I went into regedit but didn't see Asus anywhere. However, the asus device shows up in device manager, as well as sound settings on the bottom right taskbar. This sucks. I've had a bad monitor from Asus that showed white as a light muddy brownish color. Horrible backlight bleeding too. Tried to RMA it but they wouldn't. I bought that brand new from Newegg and it was still in warranty time. Now I'm on the phone trying to contact support but have been on hold the last 30 minutes. This company is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. :mad:

post #8480 of 9598

Alright and in the mixer tab the bars are not all the way down?

 

Sounds like a bad experience. Too bad. It's a great card when it works but I can imagine this stuff will quickly tire you of asus. Hopefully they'll be easy going about it once you get them on the line.

post #8481 of 9598
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Originally Posted by SunshineReggae View Post
 

Alright and in the mixer tab the bars are not all the way down?

 

Sounds like a bad experience. Too bad. It's a great card when it works but I can imagine this stuff will quickly tire you of asus. Hopefully they'll be easy going about it once you get them on the line.

Mixer levels are max too. Just got off the phone. They told me to just return it, or if I were to go through an RMA, it would take 3 weeks for them to fix it.:angry_face:

 

Guess I'll just go with the HT Omega Claro Halo again. Which the first card on that model had awful quality compared to my AVR. As well as the microphone input seemed to be reversed polarity. In audacity, my voice bass levels were opposite of what showed from the onboard realtek. Which sounded much worse on the claro. Then again, that was bought used off Ebay too. I may just end up getting a DAC. But I don't know about them yet. Is there a DAC that grabs the audio from my PC digitally and outputs it to my headphones? I seen the Schiit ones but those all need RCA inputs. I'm not trying to grab audio from a crap signar from my mobo realtek and putting it through the Schiit or whatever. I just want straight audio from pc digitally to the dac to the headphones. USB is what I can think of but that may cause latency of some sort.:confused_face_2: 

post #8482 of 9598

Just received the HD600's. MFW putting them on and listening to them.

 

 

They're so damn comfortable It's not even funny. WOW, I thought the HD558's were comfy. JEEEEEZ. These are a perfect fit around my ears, clamping force is a bit tighter which I prefer, pads are thicker, pads feel better, the sound is much better. It has a higher top end which I found the HD558's lacking. The midrange seems to have calmed it's **** which the HD558's were a little too much for me. THE BASS, the low end is much more pronounced. This is just my first thoughts with the 3 minutes and 33 seconds I've listened to them. Can't wait for 500 hours of burn in. HA, well worth the $330 Amazon has them for right now.

 

These are being powered off my Denon receiver. HDMI audio from graphics card.

post #8483 of 9598

Can someone with more smarts than me tell me whether the C5 has enough juice to amp the HD600? I'm back in the fold and would like to save some money with one portable amp... I know the SR71a and Pico Power do, but they're spendy.

post #8484 of 9598
It will give you enough volume, but they will probably only be at about 60-70% of their real potential in terms of soundstage, separation, and tightness.

What's your source?.
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Originally Posted by imackler View Post

Can someone with more smarts than me tell me whether the C5 has enough juice to amp the HD600? I'm back in the fold and would like to save some money with one portable amp... I know the SR71a and Pico Power do, but they're spendy.
post #8485 of 9598
When I had my C5 I didn't think it went loud enough, but I do listen quite loudly. They definitely improved lots when I properly amped then, less congested and more spacious open sound
post #8486 of 9598

Sennheiser responds:

According to their response HD600's sensitivity is 112 dB (at 1 kHz, 1 Vrms). So does the controversy continue? If I had an accurate dB SPL meter and fake head, I'd verify or disprove this. Then again this answer came from the source.

 

My Question:

HD600 The product sheet at http://en- us.sennheiser.com/downloads/92eb813de08987eaedf66b9777bd6bdc.pdf indicates the the HD600's sensitivity is 112 dB (at 1 kHz, 1 Vrms). Other parts of Sennheiser's web sites worldwide indicate a lower sensitivity of 97 dB/mW which is 102 dB/V. What is the correct specification? Please correct whatever information you have made available on Sennheiser's web sites. Thank you.
 

Answer:

Thank you for contacting Sennheiser Technical Support. The Product Sheet is the official product documentation and the information contained there is the correct information.

Have a great day.

Lachlan Brennan

#TS00023741
Tech Support - General
Thanks Sennheiser Support Team Hours: Monday - Friday 9:00am - 5:00pm EDT

post #8487 of 9598
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

Sennheiser responds:

According to their response HD600's sensitivity is 112 dB (at 1 kHz, 1 Vrms). So does the controversy continue? If I had an accurate dB SPL meter and fake head, I'd verify or disprove this. Then again this answer came from the source.

 

My Question:

HD600 The product sheet at http://en- us.sennheiser.com/downloads/92eb813de08987eaedf66b9777bd6bdc.pdf indicates the the HD600's sensitivity is 112 dB (at 1 kHz, 1 Vrms). Other parts of Sennheiser's web sites worldwide indicate a lower sensitivity of 97 dB/mW which is 102 dB/V. What is the correct specification? Please correct whatever information you have made available on Sennheiser's web sites. Thank you.
 

Answer:

Thank you for contacting Sennheiser Technical Support. The Product Sheet is the official product documentation and the information contained there is the correct information.

Have a great day.

Lachlan Brennan

#TS00023741
Tech Support - General
Thanks Sennheiser Support Team Hours: Monday - Friday 9:00am - 5:00pm EDT

 

I still think that the sensitivity is 97dB/mW or 102 dB/V , it match innerfidelity numbers ...  This response seams just a commercial response , not a real tech response :o 

 

Try again with sennheiser.de


Edited by HaVoC-28 - 9/2/14 at 7:33am
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Originally Posted by HaVoC-28 View Post
 

 

I still think that the sensitivity is 97dB/mW or 102 dB/V , it match innerfidelity numbers ...  This response seams just a commercial response , not a real tech response :o

The response was from a tech support person so one would hope it's correct. I almost feel like calling them on the phone and asking outright, only I'm not keen to spend much time on hold waiting.......

post #8489 of 9598
Really is confusing...

Manual says 97 and they say it is 112...

I don't even know which is right now
post #8490 of 9598

http://de-de.sennheiser.com/downloads/download/file/7151/HD600_560026_0514_DE.pdf

 

 

There's nothing to be confused ... the tech guy who answred stand is wrong ,  i don't know if it's even a tech , peraphs just a low level comercial / secretarial departement , when he don't have the skill dispatch to real tech guys . he just look at sennheiser usa specs and brochure and that's all .

 

AGAIN let's look  at innerfidelity numbers .

 

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD600.pdf

 

 

If it was 112dB/V or 107dB/mW , to achieve 90 dB we should have 0.08v and 0.02mW .

 

But innerfidelity get :  0.23v  and 0.17mW .  Differences are HUGES it can't be driveres variations etc

 

 

If we took HD650 numbers it match with innerfidelity numbers . 103 dB/V and 98 dB/mW

 

To get 90 dB in theory =>  0.224v and 0.16mw

 

In practice with innerfidelity numbers => 0.205v and 0.13mW   (drivers variations etc ) . The difference is not so huge .


Edited by HaVoC-28 - 9/2/14 at 7:50am
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