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Simplest solution for dealing with excessive cables are small tie-wraps! Available in any hardware store. Loop 'em and wrap 'em! I've used them for years in my audio, video, and computer rigs. I've always been obsessive about cable 'spaghetti' mess, hate it! Tie-wraps keep everything tight and neat.
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Hd 25 4 ft cord will work
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I can't find the exact post or I would quote it? But a wild back somebody said they fell in love with a rather expensive solid-state amp after rolling tubes with a crack tube amplifier for many years. Do any of you all think solid-state amps come with colorations and if you are a long time tube roller you can fall in love with a solid-state amp if you could find one with the right coloration to your taste?

 

I have been following this and other threads as a Voyeur since I will not be able to listen to my HD 600s with other amps till my first Rocky mountain audio show since head hi-fi will not have a meeting in the Denver area this year.

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I can't find the exact post or I would quote it? But a wild back somebody said they fell in love with a rather expensive solid-state amp after rolling tubes with a crack tube amplifier for many years. Do any of you all think solid-state amps come with colorations and if you are a long time tube roller you can fall in love with a solid-state amp if you could find one with the right coloration to your taste?

 

I have been following this and other threads as a Voyeur since I will not be able to listen to my HD 600s with other amps till my first Rocky mountain audio show since head hi-fi will not have a meeting in the Denver area this year.

I have not been a long time tube roller, but I do love the way all 3 hybrids I have use sounded, granted two were not as clean sounding as  good solid state, or as flat. But the one I kept out of the bunch is very quiet as far as static and interference and I have a pair of 1957 RCA 12au7's with the Fournier and preferred it over the more expensive Little Dot mk4.

 

I received the M-stage 2012 version through trade, and after changing the stock opa2134 and replacing them with the LME49990 x2 I find that I actually like it on par with fournier, though the fournier is definitely a clean and clear sounding hybrid, but it does have a nice body like some tube amps. The matrix is slightly warm and with the stock opa 2134 a little dark for my tastes. I think it is possible from this situation I experience for it happen with other amps.

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Just got my HD600 from the mail yesterday...

 

Taking my first plunge into a flagship (or ex-flagship) headphone, the sound it puts out reminds me of why I like the TDK BA200 so much: well controlled bass, amazingly seductive mids along with a smooth top

I think I am just completely smitten with the HD600... an extremely lovely headphone

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Originally Posted by bbmiller View Post
 

Do any of you all think solid-state amps come with colorations and if you are a long time tube roller you can fall in love with a solid-state amp if you could find one with the right coloration to your taste?

 

Do you think or believe every solid state amp is without coloration?  

 

If they were, wouldn't they all sound the same for the most part?  

 

Or do they?  :blink: 

 

They have colorations.  As the SS crowd says, I roll amps, not tubes.

 

I have a tube amp I've rolled a few toobs in.  They sound different, but close to the same.  Almost like, a different, small amount of salt on my food.  Changes are subtle.

 

As I sit here with my 600s plugged into the Schiit Mjolnir and my tube amp (DNA Sonnet) sits in the corner...

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I can't find the exact post or I would quote it? But a wild back somebody said they fell in love with a rather expensive solid-state amp after rolling tubes with a crack tube amplifier for many years. Do any of you all think solid-state amps come with coloration's and if you are a long time tube roller you can fall in love with a solid-state amp if you could find one with the right coloration to your taste?

 

I have been following this and other threads as a Voyeur since I will not be able to listen to my HD 600s with other amps till my first Rocky mountain audio show since head hi-fi will not have a meeting in the Denver area this year.

I think that may have been my post.  I built a Crack with Speedball in December of 2011.  I've used it either with an HD-650 or HD-600 since then.  The pairing of the HD-6XX with the Crack is well documented. I rolled a variety of 12AU7's and 6080 variants over the past 3.5 years, and never had a combination that was not acceptable.  But yes, tubes are just like little equalizers in bottles.  Mess around enough, and you can find all sorts of excellent combinations.  Bring out the bass, bring out the treble, etc.  My post was perhaps less about tubes vs. SS as it was about just how well the 600's scale on good equipment.  I'd include the Crack in that list of good equipment.  I originally used an Audio-GD Fun, SS DAC/Amp for a couple years before the Crack, and it was great.  The Crack was better, in my opinion, I just liked the tube sound, and the Crack is warmer and has a bit more bass.  I posted after I had listened to the 600 with an Oppo HA-1, using a balanced re-terminated HD-650 stock cable (from Headroom).  I just really liked the signature of the HA-1 and felt the whole experience was a next level.  Not to say going back to the Crack was a disappointment. I just really liked the sound from the 600 via that amp balanced, and whatever signature the HA-1 has (or does not have) it made the 600's sound the best I've ever heard them, super clean and resolving, bass extension and tightness I had not heard before.  

 

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and whatever signature the HA-1 has (or does not have)

 

:ph34r:

 

:D

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Hi guys, I've had my HD600 for a while now, considering changing the stock cable.

Its not so much for better sound, just that the stock cable is really too long to run from my dac that's right in front of me.

Do you guys have any suggestions? I don't wanna spend too much on a cable though.

Check out Ted's Headphone Lounge.  Great cables at great prices.  SPC cables seem (to me) to keep most of the SQ of the stock cable, with maybe better detail.  Differences are slight, however.

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Check out Ted's Headphone Lounge.  Great cables at great prices.  SPC cables seem (to me) to keep most of the SQ of the stock cable, with maybe better detail.  Differences are slight, however.

I agree differences are slight, but what changed most for me when changing to an after market cable from a seller on ebay that makes cables is the static and interference my stock cable was giving me. I never hear static unless it is part of the song for whatever reason. I am very happy this  is a very good desktop cable for the price I paid, and it looks good plugged into the Matrix. I when I pay off some things, I am planning on getting one of his popular 3-4 ft 3.5 plug HD600 cables. It is made with a quality parts but still flexible enough for portable. I am looking forward to it seeing that the Ipod 5.5 can drive the HD600s especially with the 18v Cmoy plugged in. 

 

EDIT: I just cannot stand itunes, So I rockbox it and though the battery only last for a day of thorough use it still is nice having all my pc's FLACs and other formats on there with no problem.


Edited by WhiskeyJacks - 8/17/14 at 7:16am
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just got my Nuforce icon dac for my 600, so far so good :smile:

 

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Are we talking audio stock cable? The one that goes from DAC to amp.

Oh Sorry I thought you were looking for the cable that goes from the HD600s to the source and or amp you are playing them from. This is the HD600s cables(after markey) My pair of 600s had interference from the stock cable and once I had this one made, he let me pick the length the connecter type, and materials used finding me the best solution for good quality at a lower price that I could afford. Anyways I no longer hear the interference. I highly suggest it if you are unhappy with stock cable quality.

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I agree differences are slight, but what changed most for me when changing to an after market cable from a seller on ebay that makes cables is the static and interference my stock cable was giving me. I never hear static unless it is part of the song for whatever reason. I am very happy this  is a very good desktop cable for the price I paid, and it looks good plugged into the Matrix. I when I pay off some things, I am planning on getting one of his popular 3-4 ft 3.5 plug HD600 cables. It is made with a quality parts but still flexible enough for portable. I am looking forward to it seeing that the Ipod 5.5 can drive the HD600s especially with the 18v Cmoy plugged in. 

 

EDIT: I just cannot stand itunes, So I rockbox it and though the battery only last for a day of thorough use it still is nice having all my pc's FLACs and other formats on there with no problem.

The iPod 5.5 will drive the 600's to a comfortable and enjoyable level.  The full dynamic range is enhanced with an amp, however.  Way back when, I remember even my little Fiio E11 beefed up the sound nicely.

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just got my Nuforce icon dac for my 600, so far so good :smile:

 

How does that dac/amp sound I have heard positive things about it but was never certain, and so far how does it pair with the HD600s? Also where did you get the stand, I am looking for a nice one for mine.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by fiascogarcia View Post
 

The iPod 5.5 will drive the 600's to a comfortable and enjoyable level.  The full dynamic range is enhanced with an amp, however.  Way back when, I remember even my little Fiio E11 beefed up the sound nicely.

Yes It does sound fine without amp but I got the Cmoy BB with 18v from a trade, and it sounds better with this as a dedicated amp for the HD600s, I use it when I want to listen to music in the other room. I happen to think it give good detail retrieval and does enough justice to the HD600s for being portable -ish lol. I really want a stepdance or a govibe magnum 


Edited by WhiskeyJacks - 8/17/14 at 7:50am
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyJacks View Post
 

How does that dac/amp sound I have heard positive things about it but was never certain, and so far how does it pair with the HD600s? Also where did you get the stand, I am looking for a nice one for mine.

 

 

 

Yes It does sound fine without amp but I got the Cmoy BB with 18v from a trade, and it sounds better with this as a dedicated amp for the HD600s, I use it when I want to listen to music in the other room. I happen to think it give good detail retrieval and does enough justice to the HD600s for being portable -ish lol. I really want a stepdance or a govibe magnum 

I still use mine mostly with an RSA SR-71a after reading that Ray Samuels tuned his SR's with the HD6XX's in mind.  Haven't regretted it or ever wanted to get rid of my RSA.  :L3000:

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