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post #826 of 17138
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

I've done more switching back and forth between the 600 and 650 cable and I still can't hear any difference. You all have golden ears or what?



It's because most people here are a little ridiculous when it comes to their headphones.  Are there differences between headphones?  Sure.  When you start swapping out all these different DACs, OPAMPs, cables, etc. it gets a little silly IMO.  I'm with you palmfish. 

post #827 of 17138

Few questions here about these. I'm currently using the HD555 and I'm upgrading sometime this month or next. 

 

1. Are these a good upgrade path from what I'm using now?

 

2. How do these fare for other media such as games and movies?

 

3. Haven't found a definitive answer to this one yet. I'm currently running the Essence STX. I'll have money for proper amp in a few months. How well do these actually sound from what I have now? Will they actually be an upgrade from the Essence now or will they simply sound bland until I get a proper amp?

post #828 of 17138
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Originally Posted by ibage View Post

Few questions here about these. I'm currently using the HD555 and I'm upgrading sometime this month or next. 

 

1. Are these a good upgrade path from what I'm using now?

 

2. How do these fare for other media such as games and movies?

 

3. Haven't found a definitive answer to this one yet. I'm currently running the Essence STX. I'll have money for proper amp in a few months. How well do these actually sound from what I have now? Will they actually be an upgrade from the Essence now or will they simply sound bland until I get a proper amp?


 

1. I had the HD555s as well before I upgraded to HD600s, and HD600s are really much better (clarity, tighter bass, crisp, etc) in all aspects except soundstage.

 

2. HD600s would still do fine for games and movies, but IMO HD555s would be a LITTLE better due to the soundstage.

 

3. I ran my HD600s without an amp for about a month before getting a M^3, and they sound great enough through my laptop headphone jack or ipod. When you go amped, you will not hear a great difference, everything just gets a LITTLE more controlled (most obvious = bass gets tighter) and slightly crispier (most obvious = cymbals are more accurate sounding). The biggest difference between amped and unamped would probably be what head-fiers call 'laid-back'. When unamped, background music sounds louder than they should be, and vocals sound soft (quite the same case with HD555s). However, they do revert to sounding naturally when amped as in vocals sound more 'forward' and louder, while background music stays as what they should be. Anyhow, you will enjoy HD600s both unamped and amped. 

 

Although HD600s would not make you go 'wow', you would find yourself smiling when they sound so right in almost every genre. 


Edited by Syik - 12/3/11 at 12:03pm
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post
But 15k...I'm impressed. I can't even hear tones that high anymore!


It's probably because my equalizer has sliders for 16k, 8k, 4k, etc., so pushing the 16k slider up probably also effects frequencies down to the 8k level somewhat.

 

The 16k range definitely has an important effect though. I mean violins for example definitely have important frequencies there, giving them their characteristic complex reverberating "screech" type sound you hear in real life. 

post #830 of 17138
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Originally Posted by ac500 View Post

 


It's probably because my equalizer has sliders for 16k, 8k, 4k, etc., so pushing the 16k slider up probably also effects frequencies down to the 8k level somewhat.

 

The 16k range definitely has an important effect though. I mean violins for example definitely have important frequencies there, giving them their characteristic complex reverberating "screech" type sound you hear in real life. 


The Q will determine how wide a bandwidth that 16k slider affects.

 

Me? I've listened to some 24/96 FLAC files through Mediamonkey and played with the EQ there. I can't hear anything the 16k slider does. Rudimentary I know and probably not definitive, but it's my only benchmark that high up the band.

 

post #831 of 17138

What's the "Q"? I'm using my sound card's built in global equalizer because I don't want to deal with different equalizers for every single application I have.

post #832 of 17138
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Originally Posted by ac500 View Post

What's the "Q"? I'm using my sound card's built in global equalizer because I don't want to deal with different equalizers for every single application I have.


When you move a slider on an equalizer, say the 8kHz slider, the center frequency is 8kHz. The Q determines how far on either side of 8kHz the slider affects.

 

post #833 of 17138

I am appreciating these awesome headphones right now!

 

Came in the mail today from amazon. Best $260 I've ever spent (only a head-fier would say such a thing, right?).

 

These things clamp down hard though, man. I assume that will change over time. Other than that, I can't come up with a single complaint. Sound simply awesome on my vinyl rig. Listening to Smile Sessions right now, and I can hear some shortcomings in the recording (as opposed to Brian Wilson's 2004 version) like I heard these reveal, but the good outweighs the bad by a large margin. Sweet sounds.

post #834 of 17138
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Originally Posted by loghead View Post

 

These things clamp down hard though, man. I assume that will change over time. Other than that, I can't come up with a single complaint. Sound simply awesome on my vinyl rig. Listening to Smile Sessions right now, and I can hear some shortcomings in the recording (as opposed to Brian Wilson's 2004 version) like I heard these reveal, but the good outweighs the bad by a large margin. Sweet sounds.



I have a big head and felt the same way in the beginning and compared to my Denon's I felt they were not the most comfortable.  I've now had the HD600 for a good 5-6 months and find they fit wonderfully (albeit different than the Denon's but still comfy).  Point being, give them time they'll feel better. :)

post #835 of 17138

Well I ordered a Bottlehead Crack yesterday.  So I'll have a Valhalla and Crack in the house..............

post #836 of 17138
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Originally Posted by lextek View Post

Well I ordered a Bottlehead Crack yesterday.  So I'll have a Valhalla and Crack in the house..............


I'm currently looking for a tube amp to go with my 600s.  When you get the Crack, can you post impressions of the Valhalla vs Crack with your 600's?  Would very much appreciate it.  Looked at the Crack - but have never soldered, and the Valhalla does look like a nice unit - so the Valhalla would probably my number one choice at the moment. 

 

post #837 of 17138

You can get the crack pre assembled for an extra fee. Ive heard they are definitely better than the Schiit for the senns.

post #838 of 17138

Could someone who has owned or heard both the older HD600 (black driver covering) and the more recent one (silver) comment on the differences between the two? Is there a significant difference?

 

I used to own one of the older HD600s for a while, then decided to sell it about a year ago, and regretted doing so ever since. Now I'm in the process of replacing my LCD-2 with either the HD600 or 650. I do remember that the bass on the (old) HD600 was somewhat muddy on occasion. With that In mind I bought a HD650 today and am now trying to decide if there is a point in adding a HD600 for comparison. However, if there is no great difference between the old and new HD600 I'll just keep the 650, since the bass is better controllled than what I remember from the HD600.

 

Apart from the bass, which is (slightly!) more pronounced and better controlled, I find that the (new) HD650 sounds surprisingly similar to the (old) HD600, which is a very good thing. But then again I cannot make a direct comparison and perhaps there are greater differences than I remember.

post #839 of 17138

This is good to hear. I got rid of them the first time because of head clamp but maybe I didn't wait long enough. No matter what, I miss the sound and I'm eager to get the HD600 back. I tried the AKG 701, the DT880 and the HD598...pretty much everything in my price range. It'll have to be the HD600. Nothing else sounded as good!
 

EDIT: Anyone nowhere to find a good price on the HD600? Razordogdeals is out and I missed out on the Amazon deal. Any other deals out there?

 

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Originally Posted by N0sferatu View Post

I have a big head and felt the same way in the beginning and compared to my Denon's I felt they were not the most comfortable.  I've now had the HD600 for a good 5-6 months and find they fit wonderfully (albeit different than the Denon's but still comfy).  Point being, give them time they'll feel better. :)



 


Edited by imackler - 12/8/11 at 10:24pm
post #840 of 17138

The gap between the HD600 and HD800 is smaller than the one between the HD595 and the HD600.  Amazing value when all is said and done.

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