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post #7261 of 17126

Would you say these cans have the "Sennheiser veil"? 

 

I not only want a neutral source, I want a transparent source. If the recording isn't very good I want to hear that. I don't want anything veiled. I want to hear the material for what it is.

post #7262 of 17126

the 650 is where the "veil" comes from.  the 600's are not veiled, but they aren't Grados either.

post #7263 of 17126
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Originally Posted by Sonic Atrocity View Post
 

Would you say these cans have the "Sennheiser veil"? 

No. The sound is balanced and detailed with a slight warm tilt, a very transparent headphone for the price. That said, they do scale quite a bit depending on one's source, so keep in mind that they'll heavily reflect what's downstream. 

post #7264 of 17126
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Originally Posted by JoelT View Post
 

No. The sound is balanced and detailed with a slight warm tilt, a very transparent headphone for the price. That said, they do scale quite a bit depending on one's source, so keep in mind that they'll heavily reflect what's downstream. 

Ahh, okay. I was thinking I'd pair it with the JDS Labs O2+ODAC (in the same enclosure). So, what you're saying is that if my amp and DAC aren't good then the HD600 will reveal it? I kind of like that. I want my headphones to reveal everything. ;) 

post #7265 of 17126

Quite a few people do indeed seem very happy with the O2/HD600 combination (some swear by it). I was just trying to point out that the source does matter quite a bit, and the HD600's technical presentation improves with better sourcing.  

 

The HD600 isn't hyper revealing, we're not talking about the HD800 here. But, within the context of the price they are probably as good as you're going to get while maintaining balance and transparency (i.e. they sound very natural and not artificially detailed). While I do have some criticisms of the HD600, I've never found myself wishing there was more detail present. 


Edited by JoelT - 4/16/14 at 8:21pm
post #7266 of 17126
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Originally Posted by Keithpgdrb View Post
 

the 600's are not veiled, but they aren't Grados either.

Thank the almighty! :biggrin:

post #7267 of 17126
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I will probably be flamed for saying this but there are many that argue that exotic, expensive, handmade or custom cables offer very little (if any) improvement in SQ.  YMMV, however.

 

I agree with what others have said, a properly amped HD600 paired with a good quality recording is the best combo and all you really need.

I agree with you and I have a custom cable on my 600's.  Tiny, tiny change in signature, but I bought the cable for a change in cable length and admittedly for the aesthetics. :o  Also agree with source and amp having the largest impact (which is basically true for all cans I suppose).

post #7268 of 17126
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Originally Posted by JoelT View Post
 

Quite a few people do indeed seem very happy with the O2/HD600 combination (some swear by it). I was just trying to point out that the source does matter quite a bit, and the HD600's technical presentation improves with better sourcing.  

 

The HD600 isn't hyper revealing, we're not talking about the HD800 here. But, within the context of the price they are probably as good as you're going to get while maintaining balance and transparency (i.e. they sound very natural and not artificially detailed). While I do have some criticisms of the HD600, I've never found myself wishing there was more detail present. 

Maybe it's just brain burn in with me, but didn't you notice that the detail in the treble seemed to increase the longer you used these?

post #7269 of 17126
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Originally Posted by fiascogarcia View Post

Maybe it's just brain burn in with me, but didn't you notice that the detail in the treble seemed to increase the longer you used these?
I know that I didn't. But YMMV bigsmile_face.gif
post #7270 of 17126
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Originally Posted by Sonic Atrocity View Post
 

Right, right. When you say a bit on the warm side do you mean in comparison to, say, the Q701? 'Cause I found the Q701 definitely bass-light. Like, the information was there. It extends far enough. But there was no actual body.

I used to have the Q701 and thought the same: they sounded thin, very bass light and the voices were "shouty". The HD600 cures those issues while remaining very clear and detailed. Best headphones I've heard aside from some very expensive Stax's.

post #7271 of 17126

HD600 are very relaxing and natural sounding headphones. These are like an old and comfy pair of shoes. No questions, daily music, never fatiguing, little bump / emphasis in the low mids, I love them.

And I do need them. To keep the wow factor when using my Stax cans, especially SR-009 :biggrin:

 

Ali

post #7272 of 17126

I recently had a conversation with a head fier who shall be nameless but this guy has the best stuff money can buy I mean Stax /Senn 800 Senn Orpheous AKG1000 Orthos . I jokingly suggested that an intervention might be in order. What's the point, well he also had the Senn 600. I asked him why this ancient phone was still in this exalted company. He said there is something special about these phones can't put my finger on it but I will never sell them. I also have some nice stuff but these might be my desert Island phones I can listen to them for hrs without  fatigue

post #7273 of 17126
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Originally Posted by Ali-Pacha View Post
 

HD600 are very relaxing and natural sounding headphones. These are like an old and comfy pair of shoes. No questions, daily music, never fatiguing, little bump / emphasis in the low mids, I love them.

And I do need them. To keep the wow factor when using my Stax cans, especially SR-009 :biggrin:

 

Ali

See, I wish there wasn't an emphasis there. I really do prefer a neutral response. :/ 

 

What's more neutral than HD600?

post #7274 of 17126
If you truly heard a neutral response, you likely wouldn't like it. There's hardly a bump in the senns.
post #7275 of 17126

Mids are the real deal. HD600 are neutral with very slight bump in low mids. They are lovely, period :cool:

 

Ali

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