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post #7171 of 8281
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Originally Posted by Keithpgdrb View Post

Keep the 600. The 700 isn't worth it's number.

The 700's are definitely better than the 600's in many ways. Comfort, sound, imaging, soundstage, separation - they're all better on the 700's. Used, the 700's are ~$500. Used, the 600's are ~$250. The 700's are easily worth $250 more than the 600's. They are much more engaging headphones though, and that type of sound may not be for you. In terms of technical ability, the 700's lie in between the 600's and 800's, and rightfully so are named the HD700's. 

post #7172 of 8281
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Originally Posted by NotaLefty View Post
 

The 700's are definitely better than the 600's in many ways. Comfort, sound, imaging, soundstage, separation - they're all better on the 700's. Used, the 700's are ~$500. Used, the 600's are ~$250. The 700's are easily worth $250 more than the 600's. They are much more engaging headphones though, and that type of sound may not be for you. In terms of technical ability, the 700's lie in between the 600's and 800's, and rightfully so are named the HD700's. 

 

Thanks.  I don't want to turn this into a 700 discussion...but your brief summary is right about where I'm at with my feelings as well.  What's interesting is that the HD600 were my first higher end pair of headphones and though I haven't had them that long (ya know...head-fi upgrade-itis) I'd feel like if I sold them I'd be ridding myself of a dear friend.

post #7173 of 8281
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Originally Posted by NotaLefty View Post
 

The 700's are definitely better than the 600's in many ways. Comfort, sound, imaging, soundstage, separation - they're all better on the 700's. Used, the 700's are ~$500. Used, the 600's are ~$250. The 700's are easily worth $250 more than the 600's. They are much more engaging headphones though, and that type of sound may not be for you. In terms of technical ability, the 700's lie in between the 600's and 800's, and rightfully so are named the HD700's. 

I must respectfully disagree, but of course this is only my opinion.  for me though, the 700 only excels in comfort.  I found the sound cold, out of balance, and unengaging.  I might concede though that soundstage is a bit better because of the angled design.  If they could have kept the 600 sound and widened the soundstage and separation they would have had a real winner.  instead, they just completely screwed up the tonal balance.  again, IMHO.

 

To each his own of course.  If you love it, thats all that really matters.  The time they spent with me was short lived.

post #7174 of 8281

My observation.

 

I have never ever read anybody complaining about the 600's tonal balance.  Maybe people felt like they wanted more 'slam' or sparkle or some such, but it always seemed like a preference, often for a certain genre, as opposed to "this sounds wrong".  Nearly every other headphone at some point will have somebody complaining that it sounds wrong.

 

I have to admit, I went from my Denon D5000's (which are very very good) back to my HD580 (very close to 600).  

post #7175 of 8281

I have both the D5000 and HD580 XD

 

Hey anyone found the ER4s sounding similar to the Sennheisers?

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Originally Posted by mrAdrian View Post
 

I have both the D5000 and HD580 XD

 

Hey anyone found the ER4s sounding similar to the Sennheisers?

 

No. The Etys sound thin and trebly-- very different.

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That's interesting because I have them now and they do not sound thin nor trebly at all... Just very thick and realistic mids

 

Do you speak of experience, and had a good seal with the Etys?

post #7178 of 8281
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Originally Posted by mrAdrian View Post
 

That's interesting because I have them now and they do not sound thin nor trebly at all... Just very thick and realistic mids

 

Do you speak of experience, and had a good seal with the Etys?


Yes, I own the ERP/S and I've always used them with the foam tips. I get a good seal that way. I think the Etys need a very warm amp to sound good.

post #7179 of 8281
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Originally Posted by SP Wild View Post
 


A lot of good tube amps have lower distortion than a lot of good headphones...so is distortion the issue?  I don't believe so.  Look at the slew rate, or rise time of tubes and notice that the edges are slightly rounded off compared to solid state...it is what I hear, a natural musical transient event...not so sharp.

 

Electrons are forced to travel through vacuum and I don't think vacuum conducts better than the electrodes themselves...the electrons are wave signals...I think the vacuum serves as an impedance, or impediment.  How about sound waves...water conducts sound waves better than air...air has an impedance to the pressure waves.  Of course, I have no evidence...all this exists in my minds eyes.

 

Is this an Australian thing like the water that swirls in the opposite direction in the sink? :P

post #7180 of 8281
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Originally Posted by NotaLefty View Post
 

The 700's are definitely better than the 600's in many ways. Comfort, sound, imaging, soundstage, separation - they're all better on the 700's. Used, the 700's are ~$500. Used, the 600's are ~$250. The 700's are easily worth $250 more than the 600's. They are much more engaging headphones though, and that type of sound may not be for you. In terms of technical ability, the 700's lie in between the 600's and 800's, and rightfully so are named the HD700's. 

 

The HD700 is a crap headphone for a huge price, the HD600 is a good headphone for a good price. That's all I need to say.  :)

post #7181 of 8281
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Originally Posted by eugenius View Post
 

 

The HD700 is a crap headphone for a huge price, the HD600 is a good headphone for a good price. That's all I need to say.  :)

quoted for truth

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FWIW, I found the HD700 to be superior to the HD600 in pretty much every way aside from natural/accurate tonality which the HD600 excels at.

 

That said, the HD700 had a serious problem with its treble that was absolutely a deal breaker. There was a small section of treble frequencies that sounded very over-emphasized and distorted. It was downright depressing because of how excellent everything else about the headphone was.


Edited by devhen - 4/7/14 at 9:39am
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And that's why Sennheiser created HD800 and the rest is history, as the story goes
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They created the HD800 before the HD700. ;)

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Oops, so the HD700 is the illegitimate child that has been outcast.....and so ....the elder brothers HD600 and HD800 came to the rescue and they lived happily ever after
Edited by Francisk - 4/7/14 at 10:13am
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