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Has anyone here used aftermarket cables with their HD 600? Would be interested to hear some comparisons between some.

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Has anyone here used aftermarket cables with their HD 600? Would be interested to hear some comparisons between some.

 

I have a Cardas and other than looking nice and surviving decade of abuse and two cats - it didn't do much difference. :o

I would say if that's what you have already (according to your sig) - just keep it.

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Has anyone here used aftermarket cables with their HD 600? Would be interested to hear some comparisons between some.

Uh oh. I hear that can of worms opening up. :popcorn:

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Uh oh. I hear that can of worms opening up. :popcorn:

 

Where's Stan...let's do this! :D

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I'll just come out and give my opinion on this. I own some truly expensive Moon Audio cables and do no hear a difference. If an aftermarket cable does improve the sound in terms of objective numbers, my human ear can't hear it. Therefore, if you are buying cables to improve the sonics of your can, I feel like it's a waste of money, especially considering the price on some of these cables.

 

Now, where I do find value in aftermarket cables is if you're trying to improve on the construction or length of the cable. I would considering the HD 600 stock cable to be in need of better construction as it is pretty thin and flimsy, but I honestly wouldn't look any further than an HD 650 stock cable as it's of much better quality and works perfectly with the HD 600.

 

Can... opened. :beerchug:

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Now, where I do find value in aftermarket cables is if you're trying to improve on the construction or length of the cable. I would considering the HD 600 stock cable to be in need of better construction as it is pretty thin and flimsy, but I honestly wouldn't look any further than an HD 650 stock cable as it's of much better quality and works perfectly with the HD 600.

 

Amen to that.

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I directly compared the stock, black dragon, blue dragon, and silver dragon cables with the sennheiser 600.  the difference was clearly heard between each cable, especially the silver dragon.  I found the Black Dragon to be my preference.  Cables do make a difference, but without direct comparison between other models by the same maker, you may not hear the difference.  and the difference may not be huge.

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Has anyone here used aftermarket cables with their HD 600? Would be interested to hear some comparisons between some.

You might as well give your money to a homeless person, at least it would be doing something useful. :D

Other than construction, aesthetics or length there is nothing to it. As far as I'm concerned, unless there is something drastically wrong with the stock cable, soundwise there will be no improvement. If your cans don't sound right, no cable on earth is going to fix that, get another set of cans that sound right.

I think I have a new saying.

"An Audiophile and his money are soon parted." This is best for meaningful upgrades, not for cables due to some expected sonic improvement.

Of course you are free to do whatever pleases you.

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Amen to that.

x3... no complaints with my HD600/580 and the 650 cable.  I think it looks better than the thin / colored one and feels more robust too.  I cant comment on the sonic differences though its been a long time since I had a stock cable.  And I was never able to compare them blind A/B.

 


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You might as well give your money to a homeless person, at least it would be doing something useful. :D

Other than construction, aesthetics or length there is nothing to it. As far as I'm concerned, unless there is something drastically wrong with the stock cable, soundwise there will be no improvement. If your cans don't sound right, no cable on earth is going to fix that, get another set of cans that sound right.

I think I have a new saying.

"An Audiophile and his money are soon parted." This is best for meaningful upgrades, not for cables due to some expected sonic improvement.

Of course you are free to do whatever pleases you.

 

I wasn't planning on upgrading anything cable wise, I was just curious. There are some who think cables do improve the sound quality and there are some who think it doesn't. Now I may had been stupid when I bought this Cardas cable I use with the HD 600 at the moment but back then I was really a clueless person in terms of audio. I haven't compared the stock and the Cardas ever since but I've read there's no difference between aftermarket and stockcables and I'm afraid I wouldn't find any difference then get angry for wasting so much money.

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Have a look in Sound Science if you want to view the never ending debate.
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I wasn't planning on upgrading anything cable wise, I was just curious. There are some who think cables do improve the sound quality and there are some who think it doesn't. Now I may had been stupid when I bought this Cardas cable I use with the HD 600 at the moment but back then I was really a clueless person in terms of audio. I haven't compared the stock and the Cardas ever since but I've read there's no difference between aftermarket and stockcables and I'm afraid I wouldn't find any difference then get angry for wasting so much money.

I've measured the capacitance and resistance of the stock HD600 cable. I then calculate the frequency that if would affect, it was a radio frequency. The differences in resistance between the different types of wire that are used for headphones are minuscule. I recommend using your money for other things that will make a difference, unless you have issues with durability, cosmetics, length or termination (plugs). The HD600 cable may seem a bit flimsy but it is flexible, has no issues with microphonics and has carbon fiber reinforcement (it may be stringer than you think).

I'm done for now, someone asked. :D

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You might as well give your money to a homeless person, at least it would be doing something useful. :D

 

This where I have to disagree.

After numerous double blind drunk test I can absolutely say without prejudice that nothing useful comes from giving your money to homeless people.

You are better off buying SPC copper cables!

I'm done now too! 

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This where I have to disagree.

After numerous double blind drunk test I can absolutely say without prejudice that nothing useful comes from giving your money to homeless people.

You are better off buying SPC copper cables!

I'm done now too! 

Would you give them a pair of HD600's? And a proper amp, portable of course.:D

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I would considering the HD 600 stock cable to be in need of better construction as it is pretty thin and flimsy, but I honestly wouldn't look any further than an HD 650 stock cable as it's of much better quality and works perfectly with the HD 600.

For whatever reason , the stock HD600 ($27.42) cable costs twice as much as the stock HD600 ($12.32) cable, so I am not sure the HD650 cable is any better quality.

http://en-us.sennheiser.com/high-quality-headphones-around-ear-audio-surround-hd-650#accessories

http://en-us.sennheiser.com/best-audio-headphones-high-end-stereo-hifi-hd-600#accessories

 

This excerpt is from Stephan Audio Art site. 

Performance TIP:  The Sennheiser HD600/580 stock headphone cable is MUCH better sonically than the Sennheiser HD650 stock cable. The HD650 stock headphone cable uses considerably more signal polluting dielectric which degrades the audio signal. If you want to improve the overall sound of your HD650's, change the stock headphone cable to the HD600/580 stock headphone cable. That improvement just scratches the surface as far as how much sonic improvement the E-Series cables offer the Sennheiser HD650, HD600 and HD580 headphones.

 

I found it in this thread for anyone interested to read more of the same: http://www.head-fi.org/t/559642/hd-650-cable-vs-hd-600-580

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