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post #6421 of 17469
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Originally Posted by bbmiller View Post
 

Is there another brand other than Sennheiser that would have to Sennheiser's angle drivers on the H700/H 800s virtues of soundstage depth without that very pricey price? And also have sufficiently high impedance to be appropriate for a tube headphone amplifier like the  Little Dot MK IV with SE better tube option

There's a reason that the HD600's have been at the top of the heap for so long and Sennheiser doesn't discontinue them, even though the HD650's were supposed to be the replacement. I spoke to someone at Sennheiser's US marketing team about 6 months ago and he said that they were considering to stop making them but too many customers were not happy with the idea and the orders just keep coming in. Try not to be swayed too easily by everything people say. Try to go where you can listen for yourself.

post #6422 of 17469
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Originally Posted by bbmiller View Post
 

Is there another brand other than Sennheiser that would have to Sennheiser's angle drivers on the H700/H 800s virtues of soundstage depth without that very pricey price? And also have sufficiently high impedance to be appropriate for a tube headphone amplifier like the  Little Dot MK IV with SE better tube option?

 

You may want to read this:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/546362/my-impressions-with-sennheiser-hd650-and-akg-k701

 

The AKG doesn't have drivers like the more expensive Senns but most folks will agree it does have a wider soundstage.

Despite the link I posted here I think the hd650 and hd600 are comparable regarding soundstage.

 

I also agree with "StanD"'s post in response to "CrunchyChick":

 

"IMO that's exaggerative."

 
post #6423 of 17469
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

IMO that's exaggerative.

Left/Right/Center are extremely clear, very rarely a song might sound slightly infront/behind but the soundstage is mostly 2D to my ears.  That's what I meant by depth.


Edited by CrunchyChick - 2/16/14 at 8:53pm
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Originally Posted by CrunchyChick View Post
 

Left/Right/Center are extremely clear, very rarely a song might sound slightly infront/behind but the soundstage is mostly 2D to my ears.

There is no real 3D information recorded that an HD800 or HD700 is going to expose any better than an HD600. IMO the HD700 is too treble heavy and will for many people end up fatiguing. The HD800 is quite nice, but then again this is the HD600 thread.

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I would expect that you get what you pay for...life is too short...

post #6427 of 17469
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Originally Posted by parbaked View Post
 

I would expect that you get what you pay for...life is too short...


Yeah,

 

manufacturer says 1 year warranty for em.

post #6428 of 17469
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Originally Posted by YoYo JoKeR View Post
 


Yeah,

 

manufacturer says 1 year warranty for em.

Just don't let your expectations get the better of you. I'm not one to get people to overspend, but a tube amp that cranks out 25W per channel at low impedances has got to cost a bundle. A good output transformer cost more than they want for the entire amp. Also the SNR that they spec, 80 dB, smacks of a noise box. Caveat Emptor.

post #6429 of 17469
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

Just don't let your expectations get the better of you. I'm not one to get people to overspend, but a tube amp that cranks out 25W per channel at low impedances has got to cost a bundle. A good output transformer cost more than they want for the entire amp. Also the SNR that they spec, 80 dB, smacks of a noise box. Caveat Emptor.

:tongue:

 

Okay, Dropped,

 

and,

 

I am soon about to become an "official member of HD600 club" :tongue:

 

My HD600's are on the way via FedEx Plane :)

 

YaY :D

post #6430 of 17469
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Originally Posted by YoYo JoKeR View Post
 

:tongue:

 

Okay, Dropped,

 

and,

 

I am soon about to become an "official member of HD600 club" :tongue:

 

My HD600's are on the way via FedEx Plane :)

 

YaY :D

Now that was a great purchase. They do need some amping, but are not as difficult to amp as some might make you believe. A FiiO E12 can get the job done without spending hundreds of dollars. I figure that you just spent a bunch on the HD600's and were looking at a less expensive amp. The E12 is portable, built well and can drive the HD600s.

post #6431 of 17469

Thanks mate,

 

I extended my amp budget to 200$ maximum,

This setup will be one time investment for me, and cant upgrade for another 2 years atleast

 

How is O2 compared to E12 and matrix m stage? or any other contenders?

 

Portability doesnt matter for me,

But I would like very good sound-stage with details

post #6432 of 17469

OK- I still don't think I understand what you mean by depth, But I could tell you what I think I would mean if I was talking about depth. I most enjoyed  John Wilson orchestra the way he plays at the BBC proms concerts with his full Symphony Orchestra playing behind singers singing American songbook classics. There is one featuring MGM musicals. In that concert there are two singers singing 2 feet apart alternately and after I equalized my headset the second time I was able to resolve the 2 foot difference between the singer on the left and right when they sang alternately. IF I could hear an example of two singers one behind the other and it was resolvable that these two singers were alternately singing only 2 feet apart then that's what I would call hearing depth in the soundstage as I perceive it now.


So is that something I should expect the H600 to be able to do?

post #6433 of 17469

bbmiller

 

The HD600 will reproduce what is actually recorded in the music.  No more, no less.  If the recording is really good (well miked), then you'll have no problem with imaging and sense of depth.  If it's overly compressed - it doesn't matter what the headphone is.  Soundstage is in the recording.

 

The HD600 may not give you the wide expansive sound of the AKG 7xx series - but that comes at a cost (quite left/right, but center for me was center - no real sense of an even sound field).  The HD600 on the other hand (IMO) images beautifully.  Combine that with excellent timbre and tone, and it remains the only headphone I've had so far - that with the right music - I can close my eyes, and I am in the audience.

 

If you haven't already - I encourage you to read this:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13#user_HD600

post #6434 of 17469

As a HD800 owner I confirm than HD600 images IMO very well. The HD800 brings more dynamics, fastness & impact and a larger soundstage, that's what improve a lot the readability of the music but the HD600 sound just right for everything when you don't need the way the HD800 allows you a "bigger than life" experience. 

post #6435 of 17469
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Originally Posted by Sorrodje View Post
 

As a HD800 owner I confirm than HD600 images IMO very well. The HD800 brings more dynamics, fastness & impact and a larger soundstage, that's what improve a lot the readability of the music but the HD600 sound just right for everything when you don't need the way the HD800 allows you a "bigger than life" experience. 

 

+1, they are very comfortable as well. Till this date, I still long to own a pair of them.

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