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post #6196 of 17151
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post


I think the HD 558 is 98% of the HD 600, with the advantage of not needing an amp and costing half the price. I love the HD 600, but the 558 is for sure the bang for the buck leader of the Sennheiser lineup IMO.


 Wishful thinking.

post #6197 of 17151
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

That's because the HD600's design has very good damping. As far as damping goes that doesn't mean one can get away with too much.

As far as bass boost goes, using a higher impedance will cause quite a bit of bass boost. I'd rather not have that as an always on thing and rather call it up when I want it by way of EQ under a controlled manner, i.e., frequency, level.

 



Agree Stan. But IME they don't exhibit bass bloom even combined with the 40-50 ohm headphone out of the LD MKIV. If you go higher - then as the graph suggests, you're likely to have the mid-bass get out of control.

I would agree with that statement about 40-50 Ohms. At 300 Ohms you'd be looking at about a 6 dB boost at the impedance peak which IMO is a touch too high in freq. to sound right to my ears.

post #6198 of 17151
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post

The lower the volume the less we perceive bass.

This is a very important point and one often overlooked here.

Everyone listens at different volumes, and the equal loudness contour illustrates that we perceive more bass RELATIVE to the rest of the frequency band as volume increases.

This is one of the reasons why so many young people are losing their hearing and/or suffering from tinnitus today. I dont think it has ever been studied, but my guess is that 2/3rds of head-fi members regularly listen loud enough to damage their hearing and they dont even realize it.

Turn the volume down and use EQ folks lest you wind up like me listening to music with a pair of these...

post #6199 of 17151
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post


I think the HD 558 is 98% of the HD 600, with the advantage of not needing an amp and costing half the price. I love the HD 600, but the 558 is for sure the bang for the buck leader of the Sennheiser lineup IMO.

I have both cans. While I enjoy the HD558's, they are not that close to the HD600's. I'll concur with our friend from down under that said, "Wishful Thinking."

  • For the price they are superb.
  • For an Open  Back they do not leak much sound.

For these two reasons and that I prefer Open Back cans I take the 558's to the Office and leave my more expensive leakier cans at home.

post #6200 of 17151
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Originally Posted by SP Wild View Post


 Wishful thinking.

My personal opinion based on owning both for more than a year.

No wishing involved biggrin.gif
post #6201 of 17151

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Originally Posted by StanD View Post

The lower the volume the less we perceive bass.
Originally Posted by palmfish View Post


This is a very important point and one often overlooked here.

Everyone listens at different volumes, and the equal loudness contour illustrates that we perceive more bass RELATIVE to the rest of the frequency band as volume increases.

This is one of the reasons why so many young people are losing their hearing and/or suffering from tinnitus today. I dont think it has ever been studied, but my guess is that 2/3rds of head-fi members regularly listen loud enough to damage their hearing and they dont even realize it.

Turn the volume down and use EQ folks lest you wind up like me listening to music with a pair of these...
 

I'll admit that I listen a touch on the loud side but not enough to require a hearing aid. I tend to EQ up the bass for two reasons.

  • As stated, Loudness Contour
  • Sensory differences, you can't feel the bass with your body when using cans as you can in real life or using speakers, So I compensate to taste with EQ.

OK, so I also like bass more than I should. :basshead:

post #6202 of 17151

I am about to pull trigger on JDS-labs O2 at 160$ shipped.

 

My HD600's still have not arrived.

 

Should I buy amp now or wait for the HD600's to show up?

post #6203 of 17151
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post


This is a very important point and one often overlooked here.

Everyone listens at different volumes, and the equal loudness contour illustrates that we perceive more bass RELATIVE to the rest of the frequency band as volume increases.

This is one of the reasons why so many young people are losing their hearing and/or suffering from tinnitus today. I dont think it has ever been studied, but my guess is that 2/3rds of head-fi members regularly listen loud enough to damage their hearing and they dont even realize it.

Turn the volume down and use EQ folks lest you wind up like me listening to music with a pair of these...

 

Bass levels and the equal loudness contours is not a big of an issue as treble levels.  It is high treble volumes that will eventually cause issues with hearing loss.

post #6204 of 17151
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Originally Posted by SP Wild View Post
 

 

Bass levels and the equal loudness contours is not a big of an issue as treble levels.  It is high treble volumes that will eventually cause issues with hearing loss.

When one turns up the volume to hear more bass, that increases treble as well and as you say singes the ears. EQ'ing the bass up some is IMO a safer option.

post #6205 of 17151

I see what you mean.  Yeah much better with an EQ.  Gotta be real careful with a lot of the leaner. brighter cans out there...fortunately the HD600 is none of those.

post #6206 of 17151
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Originally Posted by YoYo JoKeR View Post
 

I am about to pull trigger on JDS-labs O2 at 160$ shipped.

 

My HD600's still have not arrived.

 

Should I buy amp now or wait for the HD600's to show up?

Depends on your patience level.  I ordered Vali/Modi when my HD600's shipped, and the amp/dac took a week longer than the 600s to arrive; it felt like a long week.

 

 

And on the volume thing, I turn my Vali up to 9:00 max, usually closer to 8:00.  Any more than that already sounds too loud to me :basshead:


Edited by CrunchyChick - 2/9/14 at 11:05am
post #6207 of 17151
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Originally Posted by SP Wild View Post
 

I see what you mean.  Yeah much better with an EQ.  Gotta be real careful with a lot of the leaner. brighter cans out there...fortunately the HD600 is none of those.

That's what I love about the HD600's, they are even tempered. There must be a reason why they've been around so long and remain so popular with people that know what they are listening to.

post #6208 of 17151
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post
 

:deadhorse:

I haven't read the whole thread haha. I was just stating my overbearing affection for the HD600s :)

post #6209 of 17151
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

That's what I love about the HD600's, they are even tempered. There must be a reason why they've been around so long and remain so popular with people that know what they are listening to.

 

Yup, top studios still relying on the HD600/HD650 for monitoring - I mean specifically these two cans.

post #6210 of 17151
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Originally Posted by FancyDan View Post
 

I haven't read the whole thread haha. I was just stating my overbearing affection for the HD600s :)

 

It is the "Sennheiser HD 600 Appreciation Thread".

Speak you're mind!

 

Of course we can't all post the consistently brilliant, new and revelatory kind of posts as Lorspeaker :wink_face:

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