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post #5041 of 17133
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It is indeed bassy IMO if properly driven. Even for Because You Loved Me by Celine Dion, just by connecting to my cheapo Aune T1 I can feel the bass strength, but in a good way. But with Xduoo TA-01, the music become more romantic, relaxing bass... Some say V-moda 100 is a good bass oriented can, well they are overly bass to my ears. :basshead:

The HE500s are not considered super bassy but they are so so much bassier than the HD600s and this is driving both through speaker amps (I've never heard the bass go so deep and clear on the HD600) but still I wouldn't called the HD600s bassy through any stretch of the imagination  

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Thanks for all the input! I'll just chalk it up to the fact that I must be used to having a lower bass response.

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HD600 midbass is ever so slightly boosted by a couple db, but sub bass rolls off. Planars like the HE500 have far better bass extension, but of course they can't match the organic mids.

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HD600 midbass is ever so slightly boosted by a couple db, but sub bass rolls off. Planars like the HE500 have far better bass extension, but of course they can't match the organic mids.

I'd agree with that. I'd also add that although the HE500 bass is extended better, its not any more controlled and in fact bleeds into the mids more than the HD600. From the mids upwards the HE500 is more defined and smoother. 

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This is just personal opinion but just want to add that the HE500s bass may sound like the bass bleeds into the mids more than the HD600s when underpowered but driven with enough juice like through decent speaker amps the control of the bass is phenomenal.

Also, the bass extension and control for the HD600s is improved using speaker amps too. The mids of HD600s is much cheaper more natural sounding than the HE500s, but also smooths out and loses the graininess
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This is just personal opinion but just want to add that the HE500s bass may sound like the bass bleeds into the mids more than the HD600s when underpowered but driven with enough juice like through decent speaker amps the control of the bass is phenomenal.

Also, the bass extension and control for the HD600s is improved using speaker amps too. The mids of HD600s is much cheaper more natural sounding than the HE500s, but also smooths out and loses the graininess

By what means does a speaker amp improve the sound of an HD600 that a headphone amp cannot?

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By what means does a speaker amp improve the sound of an HD600 that a headphone amp cannot?

Sorry I want to clarify that I'm comparing the cans on my Audio Gd 15.32 which is a headphone AMP/DAC with the Audio Gd 15.32 DAC>Topping TP60 which is a speaker amp. I don't know by what means it improves the sound, someone else can answer that, I'm just describing what I hear in differences between the two with both the HE500s and the HD600s.

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Sorry I want to clarify that I'm comparing the cans on my Audio Gd 15.32 which is a headphone AMP/DAC with the Audio Gd 15.32 DAC>Topping TP60 which is a speaker amp. I don't know by what means it improves the sound, someone else can answer that, I'm just describing what I hear in differences between the two with both the HE500s and the HD600s.

coming from a statistical point of view, using one speaker amp to represent the entire population of speaker amps is hardly valid. Even within the population of speaker amps, there is great variation in components used, implemention etc. (not a pro in this so i wun comment further). However, it is perfectly fine to compare one amp to another regardless of the type as what you are doing here. But saying all speaker amps are ".........." because mine is like that ..well, you can't do that..

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Something to bear in mind is that on most speaker amps the headphone jack is not it's primary function. The design of the amp is focused on its primary function which is to drive speakers, the headphone jack is practically a convenient afterthought. Whereas a headphone amps sole purpose is obviously to drive headphones so theoretically it should sound better.
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Running out of the speaker terminals of the Topping TP60. Everything is improved somewhat. The bass is much improved, it sounds more open, is cleaner sounding and most importantly the graininess I mentioned a while back know is mostly gone. HD600s without grain wow

 

he is using the speaker terminals to the cans.

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Just my two cents on speaker amps and the HD600's. Speaker amps are all I use these days as I collect vintage amps/receivers. I wouldn't recommend them for any headphone, but I only use headphones that work well with the high impedance matching. I only use the headphone outs of these old machines as there is really no need to use the speaker taps unless you are using an hp as hungry as the HE6. And even then its really not necessary as there is generally more than enough power through the hp out (of vintage amps anyway).

 

I don't want to get into an argument of what is better because that would be silly and derailing. Only I sold my last hp amp about 6 months ago and I've never looked back. I have bought speaker amps that cost less than a change of hd600 pads and I'd be confident to put them up against any sub $1000 hp amp. If you want a tube like presentation with the HD600's with great control and dynamics, and especially full sounding bass then I would recommend giving an old 70's Sansui or Pioneer a go :) Even better with Planars..  

 

But what must be stressed here (as Ophiel correctly pointed out), just because its a speaker amp (or vintage) doesn't mean its going to be any good. You need to do your homework and research the good stuff. Even then there is a lot of luck involved. 

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Wow.never thought of that
post #5054 of 17133
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Originally Posted by Ophiel View Post
 

coming from a statistical point of view, using one speaker amp to represent the entire population of speaker amps is hardly valid. Even within the population of speaker amps, there is great variation in components used, implemention etc. (not a pro in this so i wun comment further). However, it is perfectly fine to compare one amp to another regardless of the type as what you are doing here. But saying all speaker amps are ".........." because mine is like that ..well, you can't do that..

Apologies, my mistake which is why I had to clarify. Also, since I've got the speaker taps I've had a chance to plug the HD600s into most things resembling an amp including some vintage speaker amps, some new HT receivers etc. In most devices, the bass presentation was better in the speaker amps/receivers

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I have a Emotiva mini-x a100 speaker amp coming soon, has anyone tried that with the HD600s?

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