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post #346 of 17098
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Originally Posted by sampson_smith View Post

At least your girlfriend has not "set fire to them"! My headphones and amps get no love from my wife. I've seen her itching for the lighter. You should be so lucky. ;)


Haha,  well that's true.  It helps that she has a decent interest/respect for it too.  I do get a lot of gruff from friends though;  I guess the whole point of it isn't real transparent to most people.

post #347 of 17098

My HD600 haven't really gotten much use over the last few months due to my LCD-2's and HD800 getting most of the usage, but lately I've been loving its synergy with the Violectric V200 amp that I got about a few weeks ago.  With the amp that I've been using before that, the WA6SE, I've always found the HD600 bit too clinical, dry and edgy, but the V200 really brings more smoothness and warmth to take off some of that graininess and etchiness off the HD600, and also adds more presence to low end, bringing it to pretty much a LCD-2 Jr. level in my view (with less detail, bass, and soundstage of course, but it now has generally similar signature). I can now see it getting more use in situations where I'm in an LCD-2 mood but want bit more comfort over a long run.

 

Really excellent headphones, they are. smily_headphones1.gif


Edited by K_19 - 6/10/11 at 9:39pm
post #348 of 17098

Interesting, I have been wondering how the V200 would synergize with the HD600's. Reason being, it's the amp that I have been considering to get when I acquire the LCD-2's and thought it would be nice to get an amp that will play good with both cans.
 

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Originally Posted by K_19 View Post

My HD600 haven't really gotten much use over the last few months due to my LCD-2's and HD800 getting most of the usage, but lately I've been loving its synergy with the Violectric V200 amp that I got about a few weeks ago.  With the amp that I've been using before that, the WA6SE, I've always found the HD600 bit too clinical, dry and edgy, but the V200 really brings more smoothness and warmth to take off some of that graininess and etchiness off the HD600, and also adds more presence to low end, bringing it to pretty much a LCD-2 Jr. level in my view (with less detail, bass, and soundstage of course, but it now has generally similar signature). I can now see it getting more use in situations where I'm in an LCD-2 mood but want bit more comfort over a long run.

 

Really excellent headphones, they are. smily_headphones1.gif



 

post #349 of 17098

Shameless plug: I've put my HD600 up for sale (EU). It's still a great headphone, but the LCD2 is calling me ;-)

post #350 of 17098

I just bought a pair of HD600s from Craigslist and the pads were pretty beat up. Is there a place where I can get replacement pads and headband for about $30ish? The Sennheiser store is selling them for about $60 total. What can I do about replacing the foam inside the HD600? It has a hole in it, exposing the driver.

 

Another question : I'm currently using the HD600s plugged into a NuForce uDac and it sounds pretty good out of it. Would I need a stand-alone amp to bring out its full potentials?


Edited by Smallville - 6/19/11 at 2:18pm
post #351 of 17098

If it were me - I would - partly because I prefer separate DACS and Amps- but also because the impedance of the HD600 is 300 ohms - that is pretty high so you need a decent head amp with high voltage swing to drive them properly.

post #352 of 17098

The HD600 deserve better than what the uDAC has to offer. I think if you are on a budget something like the uDAC connected to a headphone amp would be an upgrade. Of course I would eventually upgrade the dac to a better one down the line but I don't consider the headphone amp on the uDAC to be that great esp for something like the HD600.

post #353 of 17098

^ Interesting that you say that.  I once heard a uDAC2 > SRM-MKI > Lambda Pro rig and it had some of the best resolution I've heard.  There's no doubt that the Stax transparency had something to do with it but it also gave me a new found respect for the tiny Nuforce DACs.  They resolve a hell of a lot of detail.

 

Oh, and nice to see you finally got yourself a full-size setup!  smile.gif  

post #354 of 17098
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Originally Posted by Smallville View Post

Another question : I'm currently using the HD600s plugged into a NuForce uDac and it sounds pretty good out of it. Would I need a stand-alone amp to bring out its full potentials?

 

An amp can certainly make a difference the the sound coming from headphones. An amp can give the sound you hear via headphones a more powerful impact, and even colour the sound slightly in relation to what you hear from just a DAC or the output of a laptop or computer soundcard, so an amp could definitely change the performance of your headphones.

 

I've tried the HD 600 with a number of some DAC/Amp combos: the FiiO E7/E9, the Nuforce HDP (Six Moons Realisation Award), the Lavry DA 10. They all produced an enjoyable sound, and it seems like diminishing returns in sound quality after a certain point. The Lavry is truly excellent in terms of providing sound transparency and neutrality and low-end definition to music heard with the HD 600. 

 

Re. the 'head-fi hobby,' I would say that to me, enjoying music is most important and that nice equipment is a bonus. If you want to try equipment that appeals to you and you can do so, you can do so, and if you like it, wonderful! I also think it's important to be appreciate what you have for what it is now - All of your stuff will probably have pluses and minuses if you think about it, but you don't need better equipment to enjoy what you have now, and enjoying what you have now is where the magic happens. :-)

 

For example, I was recently thinking that the HD 600 were too bright for my preference of hearing sound as my ear would naturally hear it. But when I accepted the sound signature as it was, given the equipment that I had, and heard the sound as it 'naturally' came through the headphones, I forgot about the headphones and soon found myself immersed in music, and that to me is what listening to or 'hearing' the music is all about. Nice equipment is a bonus and can certainly enhance the experience. 

 

When you accept what you have now, life becomes more peaceful, which is a wonderful basis for experiencing and enjoying life, which includes listening to music.

 

Happy listening! :-)

 


Edited by Windsor - 6/20/11 at 2:03pm
post #355 of 17098
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Not if you're using an SS amp. tongue_smile.gif

 

I beg to differ on the cable front. I bought a Headphile Blacksilver cable for my 650 and have several times tried to go back to the stock cable as it's longer and more convenient, but each time I change back hoping to hear no difference I do hear a difference and immediately switch back to the Headphile. If it's imagination, it's very persistent and goes against my wishes.



I recently acquired a two month old HD600. With the stock cable,  I was happy and contented. I then decided to go for silver wire upgrade and of course, I am now having a smile thats ear to ear.  After about a 150 hour burn in, the smile extended beyond the ears and my head fell off.  There is a difference (and that's for me) It may not be huge...but there is a difference.

 

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I just got mine last week and I can now say, this is it.  I have found the sound that I am looking for.
 

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This pretty much mimic's my sentiments regarding the Senn HD600's. Since I got mine last June I haven't felt the desire to own another pair of open headphones because I have dissociated the gear from the music. I just listen and enjoy...the thinking really ends with that biggrin.gif

 



 

post #357 of 17098
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Originally Posted by MilesDavis2 View Post

I recently acquired a two month old HD600. With the stock cable,  I was happy and contented. I then decided to go for silver wire upgrade and of course, I am now having a smile thats ear to ear.  After about a 150 hour burn in, the smile extended beyond the ears and my head fell off.  There is a difference (and that's for me) It may not be huge...but there is a difference.

 

What differences did you find with the silver wire cable? 

post #358 of 17098

Sorry for the long quote, but I agree 100% with that. I'm not the one that can tell the small differences in music and I cannot justify the price of an amp for the miniscule difference. I am completely happy with the HD600s running out of my uDac. That is my opinion though. Maybe I'll buy a stand-alone amp in the future when I win the lottery biggrin.gif
 

I do need to buy new earpads + headband cushion though.

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Originally Posted by Windsor View Post

 

An amp can certainly make a difference the the sound coming from headphones. An amp can give the sound you hear via headphones a more powerful impact, and even colour the sound slightly in relation to what you hear from just a DAC or the output of a laptop or computer soundcard, so an amp could definitely change the performance of your headphones.

 

I've tried the HD 600 with a number of some DAC/Amp combos: the FiiO E7/E9, the Nuforce HDP (Six Moons Realisation Award), the Lavry DA 10. They all produced an enjoyable sound, and it seems like diminishing returns in sound quality after a certain point. The Lavry is truly excellent in terms of providing sound transparency and neutrality and low-end definition to music heard with the HD 600. 

 

Re. the 'head-fi hobby,' I would say that to me, enjoying music is most important and that nice equipment is a bonus. If you want to try equipment that appeals to you and you can do so, you can do so, and if you like it, wonderful! I also think it's important to be appreciate what you have for what it is now - All of your stuff will probably have pluses and minuses if you think about it, but you don't need better equipment to enjoy what you have now, and enjoying what you have now is where the magic happens. :-)

 

For example, I was recently thinking that the HD 600 were too bright for my preference of hearing sound as my ear would naturally hear it. But when I accepted the sound signature as it was, given the equipment that I had, and heard the sound as it 'naturally' came through the headphones, I forgot about the headphones and soon found myself immersed in music, and that to me is what listening to or 'hearing' the music is all about. Nice equipment is a bonus and can certainly enhance the experience. 

 

When you accept what you have now, life becomes more peaceful, which is a wonderful basis for experiencing and enjoying life, which includes listening to music.

 

Happy listening! :-)

 



 

post #359 of 17098
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Originally Posted by Windsor View Post

 

 

What differences did you find with the silver wire cable? 


The soundstage got better.  The subtle details became more evident.  More engaging and fun.  As I stated earlier, I felt contented with the stock cables but thought that it could do even better.   I use either my SR71A when commuting by train and the Ibasso D4 connected to my laptop.  The silver cables can be pricey as what people may say but for the improvement great or small, I am contented and for quite awhile, this should keep me happy. Hope this helps. Sorry for not being technical.  All I can say is that after having tried it for the first time without burn in, I said WOW!
 

 

post #360 of 17098
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Originally Posted by sphinxvc View Post

^ Interesting that you say that.  I once heard a uDAC2 > SRM-MKI > Lambda Pro rig and it had some of the best resolution I've heard.  There's no doubt that the Stax transparency had something to do with it but it also gave me a new found respect for the tiny Nuforce DACs.  They resolve a hell of a lot of detail.

 

Oh, and nice to see you finally got yourself a full-size setup!  smile.gif  


I have not heard the 2 but I did own the first one for a while. It's not too bad at its price but there are better options out there depending on budget, space, etc. I'll take my setup with the HD600 over the uDAC any day.

 

I've had also this setup for some time now..haven't used the HD600 much since I got the DT880 however :)

 

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