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I personally don't think the HD600 is for you. In my opinion, the Denon AH-D2000 is a better choice for what you want. It is a fun, refined, open sounding headphone with terrific dynamics but smooth response. I love it with all genres of music from Rock to Jazz to Classical.

 

The Denon is super easy to drive - you don't need an amp to power them (my daughter plugs hers right into her laptop and loves them).

but isn't the ah-d2000 a closed or semi-closed headphone meaning wont it sound a bit worse than an open headphone? Is there an open headphone you think would suit me better than the hd600?

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closed headphones sounding worse than open headphones isn't a general rule.  It all depends on how well damped they are.

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would a fiio e9 and an HRT MusicStreamer II be a good combo for the HD600?

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would a fiio e9 and an HRT MusicStreamer II be a good combo for the HD600?

 

I use an Asgard and the HRT MusicStreamer II. Works great. I'd assume that the FiiO E9 isn't terrible for it either. The DAC is fine.

 

EDIT: for the price of ~$200, a E9 and MSII should be pretty good.


Edited by HeroicPenguin - 8/15/12 at 10:21am
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I use an Asgard and the HRT MusicStreamer II. Works great. I'd assume that the FiiO E9 isn't terrible for it either. The DAC is fine.

 

EDIT: for the price of ~$200, a E9 and MSII should be pretty good.

in case I want to get the asgard instead of the e9, I find it a bit expensive, is it possible to buy it used for a lower price? If so, where?

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in case I want to get the asgard instead of the e9, I find it a bit expensive, is it possible to buy it used for a lower price? If so, where?

 

The For Sale forums here occassionally have the Asgard for ~$180.

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The For Sale forums here occassionally have the Asgard for ~$180.

I had an additional question. When using the hd600 with asgard and MS II, are the vocals laid baid/distant or forward/on your face? Do you think it will fit my tastes (I like forward and exciting mids and vocals but smooth and sophisticated highs). I will probably be using the same equipment as you so I think your advice would be most helpful since I can't try headphones out.


Edited by daniel521 - 8/15/12 at 11:20am
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I had an additional question. When using the hd600 with asgard and MS II, are the vocals laid baid/distant or forward/on your face? Do you think it will fit my tastes (I like forward and exciting mids and vocals but smooth and sophisticated highs). I will probably be using the same equipment as you so I think your advice would be most helpful since I can't try headphones out.

 

Mids are pretty neutral. I like my mids forward too (TF10s drove me crazy for the longest time in this regard) and the HD600s are fine. The treble is very smooth, no chance of sibilance at all. It's a very smooth listen; not hugely forward but enough. I listen to quite a bit of punk rock and they're good for that. Vocals are enhanced compared to the treble, which does make it stand out a bit, even if they're not really "foward".

 

As for the Asgard, I've never heard the E9, but if you want to spend less, it's pretty well regarded.

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Mids are pretty neutral. I like my mids forward too (TF10s drove me crazy for the longest time in this regard) and the HD600s are fine. The treble is very smooth, no chance of sibilance at all. It's a very smooth listen; not hugely forward but enough. I listen to quite a bit of punk rock and they're good for that. Vocals are enhanced compared to the treble, which does make it stand out a bit, even if they're not really "foward".

 

As for the Asgard, I've never heard the E9, but if you want to spend less, it's pretty well regarded.

There is a problem I sometimes encounter when listening to music at my car, the vocals are very low and distant and this forces me to turn the volume up making the highs and bass too overwhelming. I know a car speaker isn't comparable to high end phones but its just something I would like to avoid. I dont mind if the vocals in the hd600 aren't on your face but are they sometimes distant or overshadowed by other sounds in the music like bass and treble?

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There is a problem I sometimes encounter when listening to music at my car, the vocals are very low and distant and this forces me to turn the volume up making the highs and bass too overwhelming. I know a car speaker isn't comparable to high end phones but its just something I would like to avoid. I dont mind if the vocals in the hd600 aren't on your face but are they sometimes distant or overshadowed by other sounds in the music like bass and treble?

 

Yeah, I have that issue at times too, that's actually what I hate about the TF10. No problem with the HD600. The mids can be a bit thick, but the treble and bass is so smooth and unoffensive that the mids do stand out. I feel that a lot of people think that the mids are "veiled" just because they're so thick.

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thanks for the advide, the hd600 seems to fit me perfectly. Did you upgrade your stock cable? Many people suggest upgrading to at least the hd650 cable... One last thing, is the hd600 good for rock and pop rock?


Edited by daniel521 - 8/15/12 at 12:54pm
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thanks for the advide, the hd600 seems to fit me perfectly. Did you upgrade your stock cable? Many people suggest upgrading to at least the hd650 cable...

 

No problem. As for the cable, I have the HD650 cable, can't hear a difference. I do believe in cables, but there's no difference between the two. The HD600 sounds fine as is.

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Originally Posted by HeroicPenguin View Post

 

No problem. As for the cable, I have the HD650 cable, can't hear a difference. I do believe in cables, but there's no difference between the two. The HD600 sounds fine as is.

Do you think the HD600 is good for rock and pop rock? Thats the genre I mostly listen to. Which genre do you think it sounds best at?

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Originally Posted by daniel521 View Post

Do you think the HD600 is good for rock and pop rock? Thats the genre I mostly listen to. Which genre do you think it sounds best at?

 

I pretty much exclusively listen to various forms of rock (mainly indie and alternative, some classic; not much hard rock). It's pretty great for it. I had Grados, which many people consider the best for rock, but I hated them. Of course, YMMV, but you seem to have similar sound preferences that I have.

 

EDIT: It's probably best for female vocals/jazz, I'd still say. Great for pop/rock though.

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Originally Posted by HeroicPenguin View Post

 

No problem. As for the cable, I have the HD650 cable, can't hear a difference. I do believe in cables, but there's no difference between the two. The HD600 sounds fine as is.

 

Have you compared the mid-bass any? Maybe try to see which one has the fuller sounding mids.

On my E9 I can't spot any difference between the HD-650 and HD-600 cable. Even with my HRT DAC.

 

I was watching LOTR: The Two Towers the other day with my E9 using an HD-650 cable. Sounded fine..switched to my Micro Amp and there was clearly more mid-bass and more forward mids. Almost to the point of being annoying. The whole sound was much "thicker" and fuller. Didn't prefer that though.

I switched back to stock cable and everything was perfect and back to normal. The Micro Amp I have isn't very colored, so that wasn't it. I wonder why I didn't hear this on the E9?

 

Some say the 600 and 650 cable use the same grade of cable and are the same gauge inside. I don't think this is true.

 

My DHC cable seems closer in sound to the HD-650 cable. I don't use that any more. Has anyone tried an HD-600 cable on the HD-650? No i'm not joking. I'm one of the few who prefer the stock cable on the HD-600. There must be a reason Sennheiser uses this cable. Not to keep costs down..

 

I've mentioned this before, but attaching an HD-650 cable to the 598 is amusing to say the least biggrin.gif

 

Also..I loved the Asgard with the HD-600, but it's my least favorite amp. I'm more into the AKG sound and the Asgard is awful with the K702 and K601 IMO. Asgard was also great with the D2000, but it hated the ATH-AD2000. Asgard must be slightly colored. I guess they call it "musical" normal_smile%20.gif

 

I'm now a believer the HRT MSII has slightly forward mids and somewhat edgy treble. Most will only notice this on specific headphones with extra treble and forward upper mids (perfect on HD-600). Mostly on very bad recordings. My HRT has a small soundstage too, but I didn't want to believe that at first. It's bigger on my full sized CD player.


Edited by tdockweiler - 8/15/12 at 1:36pm
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