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Originally Posted by lxar View Post

I d say the same with the HD 650

 

The HD 650 is a great headphone, but I found it too boomy and slow in the bass region. Recabling it could somewhat resolve that.

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Just got my HD600s. Haven't yet driven it with a full-sized amp, but it still sounds fantastic coming from my Leckerton UHA-4. The bass is a bit less than I expected, but that's not really a big deal. The detail of the headphone is so much greater than the ones I'd been using before (HD25s). Thinking about pairing it with a Schiit Asgard? Is this a good fit? I would love the HD600 to be a bit faster, if possible, but I'm not sure if an amp would help a ton with that.

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I've found proper amping makes it pretty snappy.  I've tried the headphone amp in my old school nakamichi CD player and it sounds much slower and less deliberate than my Nuforce HDP.  As far as how the Asgard will perform I'm not sure I've always heard that tube amps like the Valhalla synergize well with the 600 ;)

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The Asgard and the HD600 are an excellent pairing, and this is coming from a tube amp lover.

 

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I've found proper amping makes it pretty snappy.  I've tried the headphone amp in my old school nakamichi CD player and it sounds much slower and less deliberate than my Nuforce HDP.  As far as how the Asgard will perform I'm not sure I've always heard that tube amps like the Valhalla synergize well with the 600 ;)

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Originally Posted by Jmstrmbn View Post

I've found proper amping makes it pretty snappy.  I've tried the headphone amp in my old school nakamichi CD player and it sounds much slower and less deliberate than my Nuforce HDP.  As far as how the Asgard will perform I'm not sure I've always heard that tube amps like the Valhalla synergize well with the 600 ;)

 

Absolutely... the proper amp (e.g. WA6 SEm)... and... DAC (e.g. Monarchy M24, or even the DAC in the Pure i20 iPod Dock)... and... de-veiled... and... silver cable... are all that it takes to... give them more of a ATH / Grado-like sound!  Pretty impressive really.

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The bass is a bit less than I expected, but that's not really a big deal. 

 

This is why I add a little EQ to them to fix that.  I'm down about 4dB across the board and then I go up from there...110Hz -3dB, 77Hz -2dB, 60Hz -1dB, and 0dB below.  There's no distortion as I'm not overdriving and they sound ever so like my AH-D7000s...almost.  :)

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The bass on the HD600 isn't light in any regard.  It's very accurate to the recording.  It's just not boomy, bloated, or over emphasized like some headphones are.  I think it hits a good balance.
 

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The bass on the HD600 isn't light in any regard.  It's very accurate to the recording.  It's just not boomy, bloated, or over emphasized like some headphones are.  I think it hits a good balance.
 

 

It has rooms for improvement.  My tweaks don't make it boomy or bloated.  

 

See the epic dropage of bass there on the HD600 under 100Hz...I attempt fixing that.  :)

 

608a1f04_HD600-graph.jpg

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Originally Posted by hodgjy View Post

The bass on the HD600 isn't light in any regard.  It's very accurate to the recording.  It's just not boomy, bloated, or over emphasized like some headphones are.  I think it hits a good balance.
 

 

You really don't think the HD-600 emphasizes the mid-bass a tad? I certainly do. Sometimes it really annoys me and I often prefer the HD-580 despite it being the same driver.

My idea is that there's more mid-bass due to more air getting to the driver..who knows. I know that doesn't make sense and it should probably be the other way around!


Edited by tdockweiler - 7/13/12 at 3:46pm
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I think we all hear things differently and one's opinion certainly does not discredit another.  I personally do not find the HD600s to have excess mid bass.  I do hear some high end roll off, which seems to shift the spectrum more to the mids.  I think the mids on the HD600s are gorgeous, and despite the shift towards the mids, I don't mind any excess mid bass.  But, some of this my be amp dependent.  And, again, we all perceive sound differently. 

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You really don't think the HD-600 emphasizes the mid-bass a tad? I certainly do. Sometimes it really annoys me and I often prefer the HD-580 despite it being the same driver.

My idea is that there's more mid-bass due to more air getting to the driver..who knows. I know that doesn't make sense and it should probably be the other way around!

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I wouldn't call that an "epic" drop in bass.  There certainly is a decline in bass below 30 hz, but nothing out of the ordinary for dynamic drivers.  Sure, orthos do much better through the sub bass, but the drop off at 30 hz doesn't detract from the music I listen to.  Of course, if I listened to hip hop or other bass-dependent tracks, I would take offense to the HD600's rendering of the bass, but the songs I do listen to do not need much punch below 41 hz.

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Originally Posted by N0sferatu View Post

 

It has rooms for improvement.  My tweaks don't make it boomy or bloated.  

 

See the epic dropage of bass there on the HD600 under 100Hz...I attempt fixing that.  :)

 

608a1f04_HD600-graph.jpg

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Originally Posted by N0sferatu View Post

 

It has rooms for improvement.  My tweaks don't make it boomy or bloated.  

 

See the epic dropage of bass there on the HD600 under 100Hz...I attempt fixing that.  :)

 

608a1f04_HD600-graph.jpg

 

BTW that's a very old graph. Here's the new one:

 

graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=573&graphID[]=3111

 

On the goldenears graphs it appears the HD-580 has more sub-bass (possibly, if it's accurate). This might give some clues on how to possibly improve the HD-600 with mods etc.

 

01.FR_Sennheiser_HD580_COMPARE.png

(this graph seems to be proof why I prefer the HD-580 a tad more. I like both.)

 

Here's an old graph I dug up from the internet archive for the HD-580. Looks like that HD-600 graph posted here earlier!

 

hd580 headroom.png


Edited by tdockweiler - 7/13/12 at 6:39pm
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hey has anyone tried the charleston cable company auric cable on the HD600? or canare staquad - im using the hd650 cable atm and want to possibly upgrade


Edited by bookaboo - 7/14/12 at 4:11am
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Originally Posted by bookaboo View Post

hey has anyone tried the charleston cable company auric cable on the HD600? or canare staquad - im using the hd650 cable atm and want to possibly upgrade

 

I've tried Canare Starquad on the HD-600 and HD-650 and it's a bad choice IMO. It just makes both even warmer and even more muffled.

I guess it depends on preference. Even Mogami wasn't a good match. I think Belden wire would be good. It's only 75 cents per foot I think. I like Belden 1192A.

 

Right now i'm using a Double Helix cable on my HD-600.

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Originally Posted by hodgjy View Post

I wouldn't call that an "epic" drop in bass.  There certainly is a decline in bass below 30 hz, but nothing out of the ordinary for dynamic drivers.  Sure, orthos do much better through the sub bass, but the drop off at 30 hz doesn't detract from the music I listen to.  Of course, if I listened to hip hop or other bass-dependent tracks, I would take offense to the HD600's rendering of the bass, but the songs I do listen to do not need much punch below 41 hz.

 

Thanks for the newer graph.  I own a pair of Denon AH-D7000 so you can see why I want more bass out of the HD600.  tongue.gif

 

Someone who hooks up their HD600's hardware to a PC should run foobar, open up the EQ, more up the last three sliders +1, +2, +3 and then auto-level and give the HD600 a whirl and give me some feedback.  When I listen out of a PC that's how I run them and it's a more "fun" headphone.  smily_headphones1.gif


Edited by N0sferatu - 7/14/12 at 9:40am
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