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Originally Posted by Mad Dude View Post

I just can't help myself feeling that the HD600 is one of the very best headphones around right now. Today I decided to let my much beloved Beyer T1 go in favor of the HD600... The Audeze LCD2 and the Hifiman HE6 shared a similar fate. I guess either my hearing is getting worse, or my approach at audio has changed completely, or both - anyway, to me it seems no longer desirable to have the largest soundstage, the best detail retrieval or the flattest response curve in a pair of headphones, but rather to have a 'phone that:

 

- lets me enjoy any type of music, from any genre

- sounds great no matter how well the recording was mastered or how old it is

- ... while still sounding natural (not necessarily neutral) and without adding any sort of coloration

 

Well, so far, the HD600 is the only headphone that fullfills these requirements for me. Higher end headphones may be technically better, have better resolution and whatnot - but I never enjoyed listening to music quite as much as with the HD600. Needless to say, I'm heartily glad that I decided to purchase a HD600 again, this supposedly inferior headphone, when I was already used to much more expensive ones...

 

 

I'll have to add that at least some of the enjoyment I'm getting with the HD600 has to do with my new CSP2+. With the stock 6N1P tubes, I didn't care much for the combination - after swapping them for 6922s however, it's quite a different story! Comparing the CSP2+ to the Concerto when using the HD600, the Concerto just doesn't hold up and sounds grainy and rough in comparison. I'm normally a rational person when it comes to audio (as far as one can be considered rational when spending so much cash on headphones), but I can't deny that the HD600 sounds fantastic with a tube amp. I'll be enjoying this combination for a while...



I agree with you!  I am a casual audiophile I guess you can say...I appreciate good sound but I'm not going to sit there and pick apart a song's reproduction on headphones.  I'm in this hobby to enjoy my music not critique the products I'm listening them on. 

 

With that said...my biggest expense are my Denon AH-D7000s.  I listen to various types of music but I love those for trance/techno and movie watching late at night (can't beat the bass on those cans).  Anyways, someone stole my HD595's and I took it as an opportunity to venture into the HD600s.  I listened to one pair at a meet after listening to the HD650s countless times (friend owns them).  I was shocked at how much better I found the HD600s to be.  Perhaps I feel this way because I don't "need" the bass that the HD650s provide since I have that need taken care of with the Denon's. 

 

Anyways, I bought the HD600s mostly for the open sound stage (I'm a former Grado guy) and for classical music.  Ironically, I find I use these about 80% of the time for my other music too and only use the Denon's on occasion.  It's that good of a headphone (the HD 600s) and they're cheaper than the Denon's by a decent amount.

 

I don't plan on parting with either I feel I have the best of both worlds...a bass thumping, closed headphone and a neutral sounding open headphone.  :)

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I got my 600's about a month ago, and I am so in love with them.  I got these for classical music, but like others have said,  they sound so good with all my music (Dance, Trance, Dub, Pop, Jazz)  I'm not a basshead and I think the bass on these are just great....nice and tight sounding without being muddy.   I hear things in music I've listened to for years that I've never heard before. 

 

I also grabbed an Essence ST, and it made my headphones and desktop speakers just sound freaking awesome!  Think I'll be grabbing some Swans or A5's to replace my aging speakers.....they still sound damn good, bass can be a bit much for me though....would like to rid the huge sub sitting here and clean up the area =)


Edited by StringBoi - 4/17/12 at 4:44pm
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Great minds think alike! The Sennheiser just seems to do everything right, and I switch to my Denon only when I need that bass (trance, dub, some rock/pop with sick basslines etc) or when I need to block out ambient noise (they leak out a lot however xp like i care)

 

Especially after a few songs played by the HD580, when you switch to something else or a movie etc, I just couldn't be bothered to change my headphone because I know it would do just fine in everything. Crazy. They don't even leak that much.

 

However I do think they compliment well with each other. And then add a huge soundstage and warm sounding MS1000. I'm so blessed =]
 

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I agree with you!  I am a casual audiophile I guess you can say...I appreciate good sound but I'm not going to sit there and pick apart a song's reproduction on headphones.  I'm in this hobby to enjoy my music not critique the products I'm listening them on. 

 

With that said...my biggest expense are my Denon AH-D7000s.  I listen to various types of music but I love those for trance/techno and movie watching late at night (can't beat the bass on those cans).  Anyways, someone stole my HD595's and I took it as an opportunity to venture into the HD600s.  I listened to one pair at a meet after listening to the HD650s countless times (friend owns them).  I was shocked at how much better I found the HD600s to be.  Perhaps I feel this way because I don't "need" the bass that the HD650s provide since I have that need taken care of with the Denon's. 

 

Anyways, I bought the HD600s mostly for the open sound stage (I'm a former Grado guy) and for classical music.  Ironically, I find I use these about 80% of the time for my other music too and only use the Denon's on occasion.  It's that good of a headphone (the HD 600s) and they're cheaper than the Denon's by a decent amount.

 

I don't plan on parting with either I feel I have the best of both worlds...a bass thumping, closed headphone and a neutral sounding open headphone.  :)



 

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Has anyone tried the HD-600 with ALO SXC or any other silver plated wire? I wonder if silver will remove some of it's warmth, which is what I want.

Based on my experience, the SXC will do this somewhat (it did on my Q701), but it would be an expensive experiment.

 

Right now I like the Double Helix wire, but ONLY with the HD-600. On any other headphones I hate it so much...don't why and I won't explain it or you'll think i'm nuts.

 

 

I wish someone was crazy enough to try Cat 6 for the HD-600 biggrin.gif I want to try Cardas, but I don't want any more warmth or extra mid-bass, so i'd be a little worried.

I think Belden 1192A or another low capacitance wire might be similar to Cat 6. I think Belden 1192A would be perfect for the HD-600.

 

 

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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post

Has anyone tried the HD-600 with ALO SXC or any other silver plated wire? I wonder if silver will remove some of it's warmth, which is what I want.

Based on my experience, the SXC will do this somewhat (it did on my Q701), but it would be an expensive experiment.

 

Right now I like the Double Helix wire, but ONLY with the HD-600. On any other headphones I hate it so much...don't why and I won't explain it or you'll think i'm nuts.

 

 

I wish someone was crazy enough to try Cat 6 for the HD-600 biggrin.gif I want to try Cardas, but I don't want any more warmth or extra mid-bass, so i'd be a little worried.

I think Belden 1192A or another low capacitance wire might be similar to Cat 6. I think Belden 1192A would be perfect for the HD-600.

 

I've got a SilverRay cable for my (APS-modded) HD580.  The cable isn't silver-plated copper, but it appears to be a cocktail of sorts.. primarily 7N-grade silver, with a gold-plated copper & a gold/silver alloy.

 

Regardless of ingredients, I like how it sounds (more) with this silver cable than the HD650 cable.  Make no mistake, they sounded fantastic with the HD650 cable, but I felt there was a certain degree of grain to the sound & midbass was a loose & boomy.  With the silver cable, resolution is definitely better (the fuzz/grain vanished), everything sounds cleaner & clearer.. and bass noticeably tightens up.  With the silver cable, the HD580 sounds extremely well balanced, as clear as I've ever heard it.. and maintains that signature 'Senn' smoothness.

 

Note, the changes aren't drastic, night/day.. but they're noticeable, nonetheless (I don't have 'golden ears' either).  I felt the improvements were certainly worth the (excellent) price.  tdock, I think a silver cable will be beneficial to you.


Edited by FlySweep - 4/18/12 at 2:37pm
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The only grunt I occasionally have with the Senn is their soundstage being not as big as other mid/hi-end headphones e.g. the 701, the ad900 offerings etc.

 

Anyone?

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Originally Posted by mrAdrian View Post

The only grunt I occasionally have with the Senn is their soundstage being not as big as other mid/hi-end headphones e.g. the 701, the ad900 offerings etc.

 

Anyone?

 

Have you auditioned the HD800?

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I have but got no money, and they don't have that laid back and warmth the HD600 has. When I do want more soundscape I put on my MS1000 so its covered. Just sharing the really only 'complaint' I have with the HD600.

 

Most of the times I like how intimate and warm they sound

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Originally Posted by mrAdrian View Post

The only grunt I occasionally have with the Senn is their soundstage being not as big as other mid/hi-end headphones e.g. the 701, the ad900 offerings etc.

 

Anyone?

 

This is where tube rolling can come in handy.. I've got a (very wallet friendly) Electro-Harmonix 6922.  It possesses a slight touch of that stereotypical tube "warmth & liquidity," but it's more neutral than anything.. highly detailed & resolves impressively well, too.  The most impressive part of it may be the fantastic soundstage it can portray, though.  A match made in heaven with the HD580/HD600, IMO.

 

As has been said many times before, the HD580/HD600 love tubes & can give you another level of enjoyment with these lovely cans.


Edited by FlySweep - 4/19/12 at 12:12am
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HD558 + E17 = enjoyable

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HD600 + E17 = Awesome!

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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

 

 

This is where tube rolling can come in handy.. I've got a (very wallet friendly) Electro-Harmonix 6922.  It possesses a slight touch of that stereotypical tube "warmth & liquidity," but it's more neutral than anything.. highly detailed & resolves impressively well, too.  The most impressive part of it may be the fantastic soundstage it can portray, though.  A match made in heaven with the HD580/HD600, IMO.

 

As has been said many times before, the HD580/HD600 love tubes & can give you another level of enjoyment with these lovely cans.

 

I know!! I was using a E7/9 with them and yeah they were good but my other headphones were good too. Upgraded to what I have now (Keces DA151 -> Meier Arietta / Darkvoice 336i), and wow they love tubes, absolutely love tubes.

 

Any (cheap) 6SN7 or 6080 tube suggestions? ;)

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Originally Posted by mrAdrian View Post

The only grunt I occasionally have with the Senn is their soundstage being not as big as other mid/hi-end headphones e.g. the 701, the ad900 offerings etc.

 

Anyone?

 

I actually loved the hd 600s soundstage compared to my 702s. With the 702s its like there is a far right and a far left, but no center channel. It makes it difficult to focus on music sometimes.

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Originally Posted by emremusic View Post

 

 

I actually loved the hd 600s soundstage compared to my 702s. With the 702s its like there is a far right and a far left, but no center channel. It makes it difficult to focus on music sometimes.

 

90% of the case for me. There is just this occasional desire for a more expansive/airy soundstage. I would describe the soundstage of the HD580/600 to be warm and intimate, everything is well separated but strictly not the biggest in its class.

 

But that's the only 10% chance for my other headphones to shine ;) so I'm not really unsatisfied. All I'm waiting now is a good meet for me to plug them into some super hi-end mega expensive amps haha

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Hey all!

 

Wondering whether the Objective2 would be an upgrade from my E9 w/ my HD600. Has anyone heard both and have any thoughts?

 

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Mad Dude View Post

I just can't help myself feeling that the HD600 is one of the very best headphones around right now. Today I decided to let my much beloved Beyer T1 go in favor of the HD600... The Audeze LCD2 and the Hifiman HE6 shared a similar fate. I guess either my hearing is getting worse, or my approach at audio has changed completely, or both - anyway, to me it seems no longer desirable to have the largest soundstage, the best detail retrieval or the flattest response curve in a pair of headphones, but rather to have a 'phone that:

 

- lets me enjoy any type of music, from any genre

- sounds great no matter how well the recording was mastered or how old it is

- ... while still sounding natural (not necessarily neutral) and without adding any sort of coloration

 

Well, so far, the HD600 is the only headphone that fullfills these requirements for me. Higher end headphones may be technically better, have better resolution and whatnot - but I never enjoyed listening to music quite as much as with the HD600. Needless to say, I'm heartily glad that I decided to purchase a HD600 again, this supposedly inferior headphone, when I was already used to much more expensive ones...

 

...

Hmm... seems I've saved quite a lot to find out HD600 is my best.

Appreciate its natural and realistic sound.

 

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