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post #1006 of 17143

I did get to compare 2 hd650s, one with silver and one with black and the difference was pretty big so i think this is a case to case basis. Sennheiser did say that the difference should be that the new versions will have less variation between cans because the old one is more likely to get affected by moisture vs the old versions. I live in the Philippines which is among the most humid countries in the world so this could be a good explanation of the black material version deteriorating.

post #1007 of 17143

I would also agree that this is on a case-by-case basis. I have had two sets of both HD600's and consistently preferred the sound signature of the black silk mesh older version (vs. the newer silver "metal" mesh version). To be sure, I placed each HD600 on my head blindly when I had both side by side when I owned my second two HD600's. The study was blind as both were only handled randomly by hand without looking. They both had comparable pads which were also switched around, roughly the same number of hours, as well as stock cables. Every single time I listened to one of several test tracks that I was familiar with, I was soon aware which version I had on my head based on what I heard.

 

Zombie_X is obviously a good contributor here, but he is mistaken that this issue is "mute"-- by which I assume he meant "moot". We all need to be careful here and frame our findings in the headphone world with awareness that they are results of individual interpretation which is always going to be subject to some bias, hyperbole and/or a pinch of pure speculation. My comments above are based on my experience only, and likely will not apply to Z_X who has a different pair of ears than my own. I had wished that the newer HD600's were the better sounding set based on simply wanting the best/newest/most reliable, but this was never the case and so I traded their slightly etched-in-glass upper frequencies for the older version's more velvety style of presentation.

 

Getting back to what matters, either HD600 is a very good pair of headphones. I am glad that many still celebrate their merits here, despite moving on to ortho's some time ago.


Edited by sampson_smith - 1/21/12 at 7:25pm
post #1008 of 17143

Yeah I made a typo with "mute", I meant to say moot and it could be variations with the manufacturing of the drivers. I just find it odd that one new version would sound brighter and more bass lite than the older model, and Sennheiser even said there were no audible differences.

 

I'm just voicing my own opinion on the matter which I found there to be no difference. And yes it could be differences with out hearing as long as many other factors such as amping, source, age of drivers, material played, and so on. There are endless possibilities as to why some hear differences and others don't. I've learned that when someone voices "X revision sound better than X version" that the masses follow and claim the same. I have noticed this time and time again on these boards.

 

An example is with the K702 and Q701, which use the same drivers and elements as the K701, are claimed to sound different. The K702 being leaner and brighter with less bass and the Q701 being warmer, smoother, and slightly bassier. I have owned the Q701 and K702 at the same time, have given them extensive listening, and have determined there is no difference in sound. Though as stated by other it can be manufacturing variations. 

 

Sorry if that at all was defensive or anything but I've have a long and exhausting day. Just wanted to explain my point a bit further.
 

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Originally Posted by sampson_smith View Post

I would also agree that this is on a case-by-case basis. I have had two sets of both HD600's and consistently preferred the sound signature of the black silk mesh older version (vs. the newer silver "metal" mesh version). To be sure, I placed each HD600 on my head blindly when I had both side by side when I owned my second two HD600's. The study was blind as both were only handled randomly by hand without looking. They both had comparable pads which were also switched around, roughly the same number of hours, as well as stock cables. Every single time I listened to one of several test tracks that I was familiar with, I was soon aware which version I had on my head based on what I heard.

 

Zombie_X is obviously a good contributor here, but he is mistaken that this issue is "mute"-- by which I assume he meant "moot". We all need to be careful here and frame our findings in the headphone world with awareness that they are results of individual interpretation which is always going to be subject to some bias, hyperbole and/or a pinch of pure speculation. My comments above are based on my experience only, and likely will not apply to Z_X who has a different pair of ears than my own. I had wished that the newer HD600's were the better sounding set based on simply wanting the best/newest/most reliable, but this was never the case and so I traded their slightly etched-in-glass upper frequencies for the older version's more velvety style of presentation.

 

Getting back to what matters, either HD600 is a very good pair of headphones. I am glad that many still celebrate their merits here, despite moving on to ortho's some time ago.


 

post #1009 of 17143

Sometimes I wish I still had my HD600. Even venturing into more expensive headphones the HD600 is something I'll most likely purchase again down the line. There's just something about that particular sound that I haven't heard in another.

post #1010 of 17143

You guys also need to consider the pads on each revision.  The padding on your old black versions will most likely be worn down/softened up a lot, placing your ears closer to the driver and affecting the sound.

post #1011 of 17143

Even with both using new pads, the ones I compared were really different.

 

New pads make things sparklier and slightly leaner and quicker sounding than old mushy pads and even though I put old pads on the new version hd650, it was still brighter than the old version using new pads so the differences were even more than what the pads could change.

 

I wish I could find and quote what someone from sennheiser said about the new versions being made with this new material in order for the cans to have less differences from each other. The old ones had quality control problems I guess being the reason why some (maybe a lot of them) have a darker sound than the newer ones.

post #1012 of 17143

too bad that the hd600 is going to be discontinued at singapore.... ( my friend told me about it )

post #1013 of 17143

It looks like they are discontinue here in the US too.  Amazon no longer sells them. ;(

post #1014 of 17143

It could be they're out of stock.  Let's see if that changes in a few weeks.

post #1015 of 17143

I hope they continue selling them.  They are nice headphones and reasonably priced.  Half price wouldn't hurt though.  biggrin.gif

post #1016 of 17143

They're still on Sennheisers web site

post #1017 of 17143

It would be stupid for Sennheiser to discontinue them without even having introduced a replacement for the HD6x0. They would lose way too much revenue.

post #1018 of 17143


Would indeed be incredibly stupid....even dumber than AKG discontinuing the 501

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Originally Posted by Aizura View Post

It would be stupid for Sennheiser to discontinue them without even having introduced a replacement for the HD6x0. They would lose way too much revenue.



 

post #1019 of 17143

The HD 600's are back on Amazon, I just picked one up. Looks like limited quantities though.

 

Just a heads up.


Edited by Olympus Mons - 1/26/12 at 10:17pm
post #1020 of 17143
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aizura View Post

It would be stupid for Sennheiser to discontinue them without even having introduced a replacement for the HD6x0. They would lose way too much revenue.



agree, hd600 is loved by many people

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