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I heard them during a meet, and it was only for a few minutes, but these are my impressions. They were terribly bright, detail was poor, the treble was a horrible mess, and the soundstaging and imaging was warped. How do they compare to the high end headphones like HD800, T1 (didn't really like the T1 that much either, although I admit it performed quite solidly), LCD2 and the like? They don't. In short, I didn't like them one little bit. Perhaps someone's magical uber amp might be able to fix those problems, but out of a VERY respectable WooAudio WA22, they were pure agony.

Sorry if I come out a bit too negative, but I really expected more out of such a beautiful headphone...
I think that sometimes we hear what we wanna hear and it takes a while to sit back and make a neutral judgment of something. Especially when we've heard so many good or bad things about something.
I was so worried at first that these would sound like pure crap that I had a hard time enjoying them at first. I kept listening for the "unnatural" bass, which I never heard, and the ear piercing cymbals, noticed but only here and there.
When I've had these recabled I'd be more than happy to let you sit down with them and just enjoy em for a few hours.
Time will tell if they'll come out on top, like the pro 2900's did for me.
Can't really listen to the opinion of folks who think Machine Head is something to do with an engine..
post #122 of 195

Not sure about the what we wanna hear. I remember the first time I heard it, my local shop praised them as one of the kings and at that time I knew nothing about ultra and I actually quite fond of their signature pro sound so I want to try their top of the line but the ed 10 just a mess. If you like the 2900 I think the signature will be much better choice. 

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I think that sometimes we hear what we wanna hear and it takes a while to sit back and make a neutral judgment of something. Especially when we've heard so many good or bad things about something.
 
post #123 of 195
You have a point rawdawg, I remember enjoying my edition 9 after some hours of getting used to its sound. For the cable, I was joking, stay the same course...
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I remember there was at least one member for whom the S-Logic totally did it for him and give him an impression of a wonderful, 3D soundstage. To me, it sounded more like everything was in the middle of my head. With a bit of modding, the ED9s weren't bad. The ED8s I had, briefly, were awful -- truly horrid. I've tried the ED10s a few times now and am amazed how much I disliked them.  I pity anyone who paid full retail for them who didn't end up keeping them, as people will only pay far less than half that for a used pair.

post #125 of 195

I'm not even convinced 'S-Logic' is something that actually exists (i.e. has substantiated backing).  Is there a white paper at the very least on it, or is it more like calling a headphone 'HD'?  Every Ultrasone I've heard has been a huge, steaming pile of crap regardless of price.

post #126 of 195

This thread hasn't had an update for over three months, now we have 15 new posts within the last day.

 

Why? Because someone dares to like these headphones.

 

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Edited by grokit - 9/8/12 at 11:26pm
post #127 of 195
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Picked up a pair for next to nothing.

I would have kept the next to nothing............................

 

 

 

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This thread hasn't had an update for over three months, now we have 15 new posts within the last day.

 

Why? Because someone dares to like these headphones.

 

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Remembering bad experiences does that.

 

Personally, if someone likes them in spite of all the negative reviews, I think they should keep liking them and/or take lessons in acoustic acuity.

 

One man's meat is another man's poison.

post #128 of 195

As an occasional visitor to head-fi, I kinda get the impression that this forum is more about indoctrination than discussion. I also bought my Ed 10 for a substantial discount, with basically no expectations after reading comments posted in another thread. To my surprise, the phones revealed themselves to be outstanding performers, specially in terms of soundstaging, which unfortunately, seems less relevant here than an occasional sibilance on the voices of contraltos singing Wagner lullabies or crashing cymbals in Bach's cantatas!

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I greatly enjoyed my long time with the Ed 10, pairing it with a SPL Phonitor, with surprisingly little use of its cross-feed circuitry, which felt unnecessary because of the phones' own out-of-the-head presentation. Whether that's due to Ultrasone's S-Logic technology or not, it's irrelevant to me. Suffice to say that I was very sad to part company with the duo, partly to finance my purchase of a Stax SR-009/SRM-727II combo.
 

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This thread hasn't had an update for over three months, now we have 15 new posts within the last day.

 

Why? Because someone dares to like these headphones.

 

rolleyes.gif

 

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I think that sometimes we hear what we wanna hear and it takes a while to sit back and make a neutral judgment of something. Especially when we've heard so many good or bad things about something.
I was so worried at first that these would sound like pure crap that I had a hard time enjoying them at first. I kept listening for the "unnatural" bass, which I never heard, and the ear piercing cymbals, noticed but only here and there.
When I've had these recabled I'd be more than happy to let you sit down with them and just enjoy em for a few hours.
Time will tell if they'll come out on top, like the pro 2900's did for me.
Can't really listen to the opinion of folks who think Machine Head is something to do with an engine..

Edited by Arnaldo - 9/9/12 at 5:53am
post #129 of 195
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I greatly enjoyed my long time with the Ed 10, pairing it with a SPL Phonitor, with surprisingly little use of its cross-feed circuitry, which felt unnecessary because of the phones' own out-of-the-head presentation. Whether that's due to Ultrasone's S-Logic technology or not, it's irrelevant to me. Suffice to say that I was very sad to part company with the duo, partly to finance my purchase of a Stax SR-009/SRM-727II combo.

 

I think this is a case in point. The other guy who loved Ultrasone (he owned the PRO 750s) described the same thing, more or less -- the "out of head" presentation. The original big thread I remember was titled "There's something about Ultrasone" and I remember all their models were very polarising. Maybe what has condemned the ED10s is that they suit perfectly a small handful of people, the rest of us simply find them to sound awful. That's nothing to do with Head-Fi, it's simply that the obvious fact that headphones that sound good to a larger number of people are going to be more popular. 

post #130 of 195
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You have a point rawdawg, I remember enjoying my edition 9 after some hours of getting used to its sound. For the cable, I was joking, stay the same course...

i realized you were joking after i looked them up.  I really do think that what you genre of music you listen to will affect your opinion of ultrasone products. I listen to mainly metal and i feel ultrasone has a more "aggressive" and "in your face" style.  Plus you can always use your EQ to tweak the sound which is to me part of the fun of a high end system.

post #131 of 195
If they had cost $500, I would still own Ed 10's. There were certainly things to like about them, in addition to the very problematic things.
post #132 of 195

like what?  i'd take a pair of HD598's any day of the week over the ED10's

 

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If they had cost $500, I would still own Ed 10's. There were certainly things to like about them, in addition to the very problematic things.
post #133 of 195
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like what?  i'd take a pair of HD598's any day of the week over the ED10's

 

Just sent my ed 10s out for a recable so i'm using my hd650s and they sound dead.  Thought the fit of the 10s was a little tight at first but I got used to em and now these senns feel like vise grips.

post #134 of 195
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Just sent my ed 10s out for a recable so i'm using my hd650s and they sound dead.  Thought the fit of the 10s was a little tight at first but I got used to em and now these senns feel like vise grips.

sorry. I thought the 10s were a little LOOSE at first..

post #135 of 195

I have to wonder if people really think the Ed10's are truly that "awful", or if they are basing their vehement disdain due to their US$2700 MSRP?

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