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Just for comparison, how fast is the iPod Touch's A4 processor?

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I agree, but then again, Cowon has no need to have specs on par to a phone. I Would say that a 1 Ghz or even 1.2 Ghz would be sufficient to be a good PMP, not to mention a 1 Gb RAM, but in my eyes there is no need for a PMP to be on par to a phone do to the sole function of a PMP.

Of course.  The problem is that the D3 was an attempt to move up from simply playing music to actually offering people many of the features android phones have that are drawing them away from simple media players.

 

 

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Of course.  The problem is that the D3 was an attempt to move up from simply playing music to actually offering people many of the features android phones have that are drawing them away from simple media players.
 

 

Right...no sense in using Android at all if you're ONLY going to be a PMP.  If they (Cowon) want to be able to compete with the big boys like Samsung Galaxy PMP and the iPod touch...they are going to need to bump their specs up.  Until they do so, I think the J3 is the best of the best from Cowon.  I don't want a PMP w/ Android unless it can compete with my phone.  In fact, the only reason I'd bother with an Android PMP with the Specs of my phone is if it was made by Cowon and had their BBE inside.  Everything else just falls flat...get it...flat.  :)

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For me personally it should be even faster than the Touch (even if that's not possible).

I manage to freeze all the Touch PMPs I use.

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For me personally it should be even faster than the Touch (even if that's not possible).

I manage to freeze all the Touch PMPs I use.



My Touch 4G  has only frozen once, since the beginning of this year when I got it,  and I was multitasking it at the time with the earlier, less stable version of the EQu app while I was surfing the Internet with two Safari windows open. I doubt the D3 can match that level of stability.

 

I prefer my Cowons to be wi-fi free, and focus on their strengths. Also, the J3 32GB is already as expensive as the Touch 4G 32GB, and the D3 costs as much as the Touch 64GB!

 

If I had the money to buy another Cowon player right now (I have two of them), the D3 wouldn't even be on my list.....it would come down to either C2 or J3.

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In this matter, the price is not really an issue....

But it really makes me think whether it would really be more useful to by a Touch (and support Apple (shiver)).

 

Apple's mobile Safari is really the greatest browser i have encountered up to now.

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Of course.  The problem is that the D3 was an attempt to move up from simply playing music to actually offering people many of the features android phones have that are drawing them away from simple media players.

 

 


Very true but I don't think COWON understands that or wants to compete with the iPod touch or the Galaxy PMP, if they really wanted to compete with your mainstream PMP then they will very likely have to drop pricing by at least $100 and will have to change many things; but a simple increase in processor speed and a stock Android build should be more than sufficient to make it a true elite PMP.
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Very true but I don't think COWON understands that or wants to compete with the iPod touch or the Galaxy PMP, if they really wanted to compete with your mainstream PMP then they will very likely have to drop pricing by at least $100 and will have to change many things; but a simple increase in processor speed and a stock Android build should be more than sufficient to make it a true elite PMP.

 

Not necessarily.  Anyone in the audio market knows that the Cowon players have an advantage when it comes to sound quality...so give us a nice performing Android based PMP and people will buy it assuming the cost is similar to that of the iTouch and any other Android-Based PMPs.  The name and sound quality will give them a bump even if they are a bit overpriced.
 

 

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Anyone in the audio market knows that the Cowon players have an advantage when it comes to sound quality...so give us a nice performing Android based PMP and people will buy it assuming the cost is similar to that of the iTouch and any other Android-Based PMPs.  The name and sound quality will give them a bump even if they are a bit overpriced.
 

 


I agree, although one of the luxury experiences that Cowon's players brought along was gapless playback. Yet they haven't cracked that capability on their D3 yet, even though the RockBox app proves it can be done. I think I could forgive them every other sin if the U.S. Gingerbread update had gapless playback from their stock music app.
 

 

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Not necessarily.  Anyone in the audio market knows that the Cowon players have an advantage when it comes to sound quality...so give us a nice performing Android based PMP and people will buy it assuming the cost is similar to that of the iTouch and any other Android-Based PMPs.  The name and sound quality will give them a bump even if they are a bit overpriced.
 

 


I find that unlikely, it may appeal to techies and to Audiophiles but will be very hard to obtain mass popularity. The problem with everything is the price, and Cowon not being able to mass produce these babies like an iPod touch makes the price bigger. Something I don't mind paying but if Uncle Lou saw this at a Best Buy and an IPod touch beside, he'd obviously get an iPod, only because of brand name and the perception that Apple products are the best. To succeed in the mainstream market, Cowon needs to partner with Samsung or LG and drop the price to around $230-250 for the D3.
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I find that unlikely, it may appeal to techies and to Audiophiles but will be very hard to obtain mass popularity. The problem with everything is the price, and Cowon not being able to mass produce these babies like an iPod touch makes the price bigger. Something I don't mind paying but if Uncle Lou saw this at a Best Buy and an IPod touch beside, he'd obviously get an iPod, only because of brand name and the perception that Apple products are the best. To succeed in the mainstream market, Cowon needs to partner with Samsung or LG and drop the price to around $230-250 for the D3.


I meant to really say anyone in the "audiophile market" not Uncle Lou at Best Buy.  So yes, I agree with your assessment.  However, right now, even with their J3, and S9 before it...if any Uncle Lou goes into Best Buy...they aren't buying a Cowon player.  It's guys like us on this forum that are buying up the Cowon players.  There is literally no way for them to get big enough to surpass iPod...it's just too big, so they just need to make a good performing Android based player with gapless (as 4D mentioned) and they will be fine int he audiophile market.

 

Right now, the J3 is still their best player, even though they've come out with a more feature rich D3.  Had they put better hardware in the D3, I think it would have been successful...but again, even someone like me who would LOVE a Cowon Android based player won't bite because the specs aren't up to par with my phone.  It's just something that I think Cowon can't overcome becuase of their size and manufacturing experience when it comes to the hardware.  Costs them WAY too much for parts compared to phone manufacturers who have all the deals with the component companies.  I think we're in for a long wait.

 

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I meant to really say anyone in the "audiophile market" not Uncle Lou at Best Buy.  So yes, I agree with your assessment.  However, right now, even with their J3, and S9 before it...if any Uncle Lou goes into Best Buy...they aren't buying a Cowon player.  It's guys like us on this forum that are buying up the Cowon players.  There is literally no way for them to get big enough to surpass iPod...it's just too big, so they just need to make a good performing Android based player with gapless (as 4D mentioned) and they will be fine int he audiophile market.

 

Right now, the J3 is still their best player, even though they've come out with a more feature rich D3.  Had they put better hardware in the D3, I think it would have been successful...but again, even someone like me who would LOVE a Cowon Android based player won't bite because the specs aren't up to par with my phone.  It's just something that I think Cowon can't overcome becuase of their size and manufacturing experience when it comes to the hardware.  Costs them WAY too much for parts compared to phone manufacturers who have all the deals with the component companies.  I think we're in for a long wait.

 


Alas, very true mad.gif and now I am confused on what I want. The J3 or the D3. Hopefully they make a new model with a snapdragon processor. That and a 1 gig ram is all I ask for. As for pricing, I am content, I don't mind shelling out $300 if it seperates me from isheep and their iPods.
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Is there also the possibility for the next gen to get an SuperAmoLED?

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Is there also the possibility for the next gen to get an SuperAmoLED?


I would hope so. It doesn't seem unlikely, the best would be to get Super AMOLED Plus. But I think they'd have to ask Samsung. Hopefully their future device is 4.0" and its thinner.
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