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haha Amen to that! Whilst your there S one, just throw another fence panel on the fire... He'll not mind ;)  He'll be home soon.. :D

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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post
 

haha Amen to that! Whilst your there S one, just throw another fence panel on the fire... He'll not mind ;)  He'll be home soon.. :D

 

I've been strongly considering dragging - yes, that's a good description of action here - my G-22000 out to a SoCal head-fi meet. For me, it would be more about sharing, as opposed to what I think of my own gears.

 

I say sharing, because there are some head-fiers who've not yet heard cans leashed up to a competent vintage integrated amp/receiver thru speaker taps. And many have flat-out not seen a G-33000/22000 in the wild. Period.

 

It'll be my humble head-fi contribution with a nod to the wonderful members here in this thread. I perused eBay on occasion in moons past for gear. But I ain't NEVER logged-on to Craig's List before reading this thread.

 

D**n you "Calling-all-vintage-integrated-receiver-owners" you! :D

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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post
 

 

I've been strongly considering dragging - yes, that's a good description of action here - my G-22000 out to a SoCal head-fi meet. For me, it would be more about sharing, as opposed to what I think of my own gears.

 

I say sharing, because there are some head-fiers who've not yet heard cans leashed up to a competent vintage integrated amp/receiver thru speaker taps. And many have flat-out not seen a G-33000/22000 in the wild. Period.

 

It'll be my humble head-fi contribution with a nod to the wonderful members here in this thread. I perused eBay on occasion in moons past for gear. But I ain't NEVER logged-on to Craig's List before reading this thread.

 

D**n you "Calling-all-vintage-integrated-receiver-owners" you! :D

 

Yup he has a lot to answer for ;)

 

I think the whole vintage thing will always be either a quick 'fling' with some folks... Or a long term relationship. But I don't think it will ever take over or reach any kind of popularity compared to the newer more advanced technology on head-fi. It's a specialist hobby at the end of the day. (plus its our little secret ;) 

 

However, I still stand (and the fact that I've not looked at another hp amp since I got into vintage) that any of my better amps would wipe the floor of any hp amp under a grand. And It would be nice to witness peeps reaction at a meet for sure! 

 

:beerchug: to my fave thread! 

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thumbsup.gif Vive millésime

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Amen to the comment about being a favorite thread. In the past six months I went from oblivious about vintage to owning six receivers/integrateds and the Spec rack setup. I am hooked and will never even look at another non-vintage amp. I'll be faithful to silver.....biggrin.gif

I pity the masses who have never felt what we do listening to a favorite track on vintage.
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Sorry Moody, you made me do it.

 

 :biggrin: 

 

(have to go to bed soon... Damn uk time huh, I'll see the pics in the morning :) 

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:tongue: Me? I'm simply gonna order "Take-Out."

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lol, honestly I wasn't going to say anything until I got past the "new toy" phase because this thing literally sounds too good to be true. So I've been trying to convince myself it doesn't really sound this good. Whenever I buy something, I always do it knowing that I don't have room for a new addition and whatever comes in last(sonically speaking) will hit the door. Sometimes it ended up being the very piece I just bought. But this time it ended up being my sx1280.

 

That is high praise indeed!  I have never owned the SX1280 but had the SX980 for awhile and thought it sounded amazing!  Looking forward to hearing more of your impressions.  The Sansui 8500/9500 is the series I have been very curious about since there is little information about it compared to other Sansui amps. 

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That's the reason I didn't want to pay a few hundred for one in less than stellar condition. It seems the only place where it really gets talked is on ak. It's even hit or miss when it comes to ebay prices. It depends on who is watching it at the time because I've seen them go from as low as 300.00 all the way up to 1400(Aus buyer though but, still pad over 300.00 in shipping). I'll post detailed impressions later tonight along with a couple of external pics.
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Also, don't want to sell the sx1280 short. Other than my completely rebuilt sansui, it's the best ss receiver I've listened to. It also beats a couple of really good vintage integrateds I've owned. So it's definitely a killer sounding receiver. I've been very fortunate to score some very good finds at great prices. But one thing is for sure, as different as all of the vintage gear I've owned sounds, most of them sounded incredible. I could have live long term with most of them.
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I just remembered I never posted pics of the 500c after repairing the damage that occurred during shipment. As I said previously a couple of sliders broke off and some chunks of the bezel broke off the cabinet. While deciding which direction to go with securing a new one, I decided to attempt a repair on my old one to buy me some time. I really want one from mc cabinets, but their prices are a bit high. There's a couple of eBay sellers that build them, but I actually like the original one better and probably will hold out until a mint one comes available.

Before




Now the after.






This last picture is with the flash on to highlight the seams that were glued back together. Fortunately, the seams are not visible from the repairs done to the front of the bezel.


Lol the flash also highlight it's time for a little dusting. The blemishes in the faceplate in the before pics aren't scratches. The faceplate was pretty much scratch free.
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And finally the au-9500...




Edited by moodyrn - 10/4/13 at 6:25pm
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Soooo v-e-r-y  s-e-x-y . . .

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Now for some impressions. If I could sum up the sound of the 9500 into one word it would be "musical". In my past research of the 9500, I noticed a lot of people would describe it as "tube like". That has always been a phrase I've frowned upon in the past because I've never heard a solid state amp sound like a tube amp, or anywhere close. Most engineers that's tried to pull that off mostly ended up with a warm, dark sounding solid state amp that wasn't representative of what a tube amp sounded like at all. So I assumed that most people merely meant that it sounded warm(which it does). It wasn't until I read a post of an owner going into depth about the sound characteristics and what he meant when he said it sounded like a tube amp.

 

Ironically, he used his 500c as a reference in describing how the 9500 sound. He wrote, and of course I'm paraphrasing......The 9500 had the ability to portray images in an open space and the sound lifts off the speakers themselves. He added, the soundstage was truly holographic, and could easily hear how large the venue was the band was playing in. He said only his fisher and other high end tube amps had the ability to do this. The 9500 had the ability to sound smooth without smearing non of the details and without sacrificing transparency. 

 

Now that I own both, I would have to agree. But the funny thing is, tonality wise, they sound totally different. The 9500 have all of these qualities, but it is warm sounding while the 500c is completely neutral. With the 9500, think marantz without the rolled off highs, lack of depth, and transparency. It's not as dark as the prototypical marantz, but they are similar tonal wise. The thing that really baffles me is, while not neutral, the voices and the instruments just sound real. I'm mean not colored, but the sense that you are there. It's very strange how it's able to pull this off, but it does. And consequently, it mates will with both my he-6 and w3000. My he-6 sounds great out of the 2325, but pretty much unlistenable with my w3000. 

 

Now the negatives. It doesn't have the technicalities of neither my ka-907 or 500c. It also don't quiet have the technicalities of the sx1280 either. But it's not lacking in technicalities like the 2325 is either. It don't have the extension at both ends of my ka907, but the 907 isn't as musical as the 9500 either. The treble is just a tad bit subdued. The extension is there, but it's slightly soft up top. As a result, I can listen to it for hours without any fatigue, but sometimes I wish it was a tad bit more aggressive sounding. My biggest negative is the fact the -20db button have no effect on background hiss. The hiss is the same whether the -20db button is engaged or not. This is how my au-11000 was which is one of the main reasons I sold it. On my 9090db the hiss level is pretty high with my w3000, but  with the -20db button engaged, the background is completely black.

 

The good thing is, the hiss level of the 9500 is barely audible on my w3000 with no music playing. So it's still usable with those. But on the other hand, the headphone out isn't as powerful as the 9090db headphone out. So it struggles a bit driving my he-6. It drives them well, just not as well as the 9090db. I don't even use the speaker taps on the 9090db for the he-6, but I do with the 9500 though. All in all, it's the most musical amp, I've ever listened to. While not the last word in extension, transparency, and detail retrieval(still very good in those aspects), it does a wonderful job of just making music sound great. So I don't even think about it's shortcomings when listening to it. I'm just transported into audio nirvana.

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Soooo v-e-r-y  s-e-x-y . . .

 

thanks

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