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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post

Mercifully, however, by the 1980's, better gear (like that) was finally using 5-way binding posts for speaker connectors, and not xt$2(6Bsh!$@!? spring clips. The fact that the mighty SX 1980 uses spring clips with far too small a hole for decent wire really agitates me.

Think about how much money we save using lamp cord instead of expensive cables! 

Maybe it's all part of the vintage "bargain". beerchug.gif

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K-Nisi's site says it was introduced in 1984. (Source / Google Translated)

Thanks for that, yeah I only looked at one foreign source and it said late 1970's with a question mark next to it. The release year for them was from 1983 to 85. There is no American substitute for it.

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Guys, can I get some opinions on this. There is a Yamaha cr1000 in very good condition with a few lights out being the only flaw. Is it worth $200 local pickup?  

 

thanks...

 

The price is right there, considering alternative iron. I understand a few lights are out on the amp. But :thumb: you need to take a stick and poke it... then listen to it.rolleyes.gif

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So, here is a question regarding the headphone output on my 2230.  Is it strong enough to adequately drive difficult to drive headphones?

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So, here is a question regarding the headphone output on my 2230.  Is it strong enough to adequately drive difficult to drive headphones?
Zero problems driving lcd2.2, he500, fostex t50rp, hd650... Not sure if you would classify these as difficult to drive.
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So, here is a question regarding the headphone output on my 2230.  Is it strong enough to adequately drive difficult to drive headphones?

 

Here's a question for the group:

 

Instead of using a speaker tap cable to drive headphones directly from the speaker outputs (I do this on a couple of receivers), could one remove/short the drop resistors from the headphone jack and get full power to the jack?  Seems this would be equivalent to using a speaker tap cable.

 

Of couse, you'd have to be VERY careful when plugging in easier to drive/more sensitive cans.  

 

Or a less drastic approach of just replacing the current resistors with a lower value (or soldering in a lower value in parallel) to get more power out.  In looking at the service manuals from the various receivers I own, seems they use anywhere from 220 ohms to 680 ohms as drop resistors.  Replacing those with 50 or 100 ohm equivalent should solve the problem of driving difficult headphones directly from the jack, wouldn't it?

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So, here is a question regarding the headphone output on my 2230.  Is it strong enough to adequately drive difficult to drive headphones?

 

 

 

Yes.

 

Next question?

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Here's a question for the group:

Instead of using a speaker tap cable to drive headphones directly from the speaker outputs (I do this on a couple of receivers), could one remove/short the drop resistors from the headphone jack and get full power to the jack?  Seems this would be equivalent to using a speaker tap cable.


Of couse, you'd have to be VERY careful when plugging in easier to drive/more sensitive cans.  

Or a less drastic approach of just replacing the current resistors with a lower value (or soldering in a lower value in parallel) to get more power out.  In looking at the service manuals from the various receivers I own, seems they use anywhere from 220 ohms to 680 ohms as drop resistors.  Replacing those with 50 or 100 ohm equivalent should solve the problem of driving difficult headphones directly from the jack, wouldn't it?

Yes...BUT: its also possible that this would make the headphone out unacceptably noisy for very sensitive headphones. So if you ONLY wanted to use our vintage amp / receiver with Audeze or HiFiMan cans, might be a good idea. But if you also want to use it with Denon, AT, or the like, it might be a problem. Depends on how quiet your amp is. You will also get less play on the volume control with those more efficient cans.
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post

Yes...BUT: its also possible that this would make the headphone out unacceptably noisy for very sensitive headphones. So if you ONLY wanted to use our vintage amp / receiver with Audeze or HiFiMan cans, might be a good idea. But if you also want to use it with Denon, AT, or the like, it might be a problem. Depends on how quiet your amp is. You will also get less play on the volume control with those more efficient cans.

Cool, thanks Skylab. Sounds like maximum versatility by leaving it as is or just reducing the R values just a bit. I already have some speaker tap cables to XLR for my Hifimans and it's not a lot of trouble to keep using them.

Thanks.
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Here we go with vinyl rig...............Yamaha P-520 fed into Pioneer SA-7500 MKII feeding the Polk Audio bookshelfs and/or the Wharfedales.  That pressing of Rush 2112 is about 24 years old from my memory...............and had been played once when I bought it and transferred it to cassette tape.  

 

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:thumb: Looking good in the Northwest!

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Think about how much money we save using lamp cord instead of expensive cables! 
Maybe it's all part of the vintage "bargain". beerchug.gif

Lol, I cut off that lowly lamp cord on my ka907 and now have a 7awg pangea ac9 on it. Lets just say I'm really happy with the results. Some of the hardest hitting bass I've heard from a speaker amp. These lamp cords are really limiting what some of these higher powered monsters can do although they still sound killer as is.
Edited by moodyrn - 6/23/13 at 2:29pm
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I know that this is a vintage receiver thread, so I hope that this is not an inappropriate question. I heard a pair of Grundig vintage speakers several weeks ago and was really impressed. I wonder what you guys thought of these?

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-GRUNDIG-Speakers-Mid-Century-WORKING-Germany-1400022-/161049497392

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Originally Posted by parbaked View Post

Think about how much money we save using lamp cord instead of expensive cables! 

 

The funny thing is you can do better than hardware store zipwire, and cheaper, too... This is not intended to be a derail about cables, but you can get Canare microphone cable for a lower price per foot than 24 AWG lamp cord, and it's actually designed for audio. So it's still worth shopping around, even if you're a cable skeptic.


Edited by ardgedee - 6/23/13 at 3:44pm
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