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post #7321 of 13591
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Originally Posted by xzobinx View Post

Can someone give me some opinion about this sansui au-d9  I'm interested in trying out some vintage for a change but have no clue where to start 

it will pair with th900 and 650 

thanks

http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/index.php?/classifieds/item/776-sansui-au-d9/

 

I think that's a good amp but the price seems very high to me. I'd wait and see what else comes down the pike.

post #7322 of 13591

I've tried TH600 with the vintage Pioneer SX-1010.  With its 25 ohm impedance there is bit too much hiss for my liking when paired with the SX-1010.  Doesn't sound bad but the hiss is a tad annoying.  

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by xzobinx View Post

Can someone give me some opinion about this sansui au-d9  I'm interested in trying out some vintage for a change but have no clue where to start 

it will pair with th900 and 650 

thanks

http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/index.php?/classifieds/item/776-sansui-au-d9/

post #7323 of 13591
Quote:
Originally Posted by xzobinx View Post

Can someone give me some opinion about this sansui au-d9  I'm interested in trying out some vintage for a change but have no clue where to start 

it will pair with th900 and 650 

thanks

http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/index.php?/classifieds/item/776-sansui-au-d9/


I have an AU-D907 which is the Japanese AU-919. The AU-D9 has the same dna, but it's impossible to say how much of the design has carried through to this model. I had a look on AK and there wasn't much there. It seems rare, but rare can be a pain in the arse if it needs servicing.

 

The sound of the 907 is very neutral. A Sansui advert of the time used the phrase 'wire with gain'. It's also very quiet. I am able to use a Senn ie8 without much noise.

 

Now before you run off and buy the D9, stop and think. my 907 was my third purchase, already owning a Marantz 2385 and a SX1980. If the price is 480 aus dollars that's still over $470 US/ £309. Then again if it is in Aus, you will save hundreds of dollars in shipping buying an equivalent model from the US.


Edited by MrQ - 5/27/13 at 11:47am
post #7324 of 13591

Interesting, WNBC. When I listen to my Denon D7000 paired with the Pioneer SX-D7000, I do not suffer from hiss @ 25 Ohms.

post #7325 of 13591

How much room do you Pioneer SX guys have on the volume pot? I can't imagine using a low impedance phone on my 550. 

 

I'm wondering if the resistors have been removed on mine..? 

post #7326 of 13591

Headphone impedance alone cannot predict "how loud" it will be. For example, the HiFiMan HE-6 is rated at only 50 ohms. It's 83 dB sensitivity (efficiency) rating is much more telling...


Edited by palmfish - 5/27/13 at 12:56pm
post #7327 of 13591
It's really more the sensitivity of the headphone that is at issue here, not the impedance. If you have a very high sensitivity headphone, and your vintage amp/receiver has a bit of noise, you're likely to hear it. My recapped/restored SX-1980's are dead quiet, so I can run pretty much any headphone, but I had a Sansui G-8000 that simply had too much noise/hiss from headphones, so it got sold.

With the medium sensitivity LCD-3 or low sensitivity HE-6, this isn't really ever an issue unless the amp/receiver is so noisy it's about to go...

EDIT: yup, Palmfish has it right and beat me to it wink.gif
post #7328 of 13591

All of you are right.  I must have been listening to a track with a higher than normal background noise.  Silent One mentioned the D7000 example and it is more efficient than the TH600 so I had to give this another shot.  I plugged in the TH600 into my SX-1010 and while there is more hiss with than my Amphora it isn't that bad.  With that said, I can't get above 10 o'clock before it gets too loud.  Too bad I don't have the 737 around anymore.  The 737 was pretty good with the HE-500 and less power than the 1010.  Possibly better with non-orthos as well.  

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post

Interesting, WNBC. When I listen to my Denon D7000 paired with the Pioneer SX-D7000, I do not suffer from hiss @ 25 Ohms.

 

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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post

How much room do you Pioneer SX guys have on the volume pot? I can't imagine using a low impedance phone on my 550. 

 

I'm wondering if the resistors have been removed on mine..? 

 

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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

Headphone impedance alone cannot predict "how loud" it will be. For example, the HiFiMan HE-6 is rated at only 50 ohms. It's 83 dB sensitivity (efficiency) rating is much more telling...

post #7329 of 13591
Thread Starter 

As a previous owner of the sx1010, I will say it has one of the most powerful headphone outs of any vintage amp/receiver I've owned. And all of them with the exception of the sansui au-517, were totl monsters.  It' not only could easily power my he-6 out of the headphone out, but it could even do it with the -20db button engaged. It hissed with my d7000 even with the -20db button engaged. 

 

A lot also have the do with the quality of the preamp. I have a flagship ht receiver and I've tried almost all of my vintage gear in amp only mode using the receiver as a preamp as a point of reference as to how good the preamp on them were. With the sx1010 and a few others, there were never any hiss bypassing the preamp and using the ht receiver as a preamp. And at the same time, the headphone out of them were just as powerful.

 

The couple of exceptions were the 2330B and ka-907. The preamp in the ka-907 was just as quiet and the 2330B was nearly as quiet, but quiet enough that I could run my jh13 with barely hearing any hiss at all. Everything else, including my highly sensitive 40ohm w3000 were completely silent. The marantz 2325 also have a very good preamp, but not quiet as good as the 2330B. 

 

I had the same experience with a sansui au-11000 as Skylab did with his g8000, and eventually sold it as well. The strange thing about that was, the -20db button had no effect on background noise. It only lower the volume, which is total different from the -20db on both the au-517 and 9090db. Both of those would significantly lower the background noise with the -20db button engaged.

post #7330 of 13591

Found a Sansui 2000 for sale. Cosmetically flawed but phono, aux and tuner (may need recalibration) work and is priced at $55...

 

To be honest, I have no idea what im doing but i want to get a vintage receiver. 
I find it pretty hard to find information, subjective reviews, on vintage gear so i feel like pretty much you just ask on a forum and see what they say.

That does lead to conflict as I read that sansui were top of the line and they were fake top of the line (junk). 
Also i read that sansui's have a warm sound signature as opposed to Marantz with a more bright and detailed sound. Is this generally correct?

 

also have a sansui 771 priced at $160. "good" condition. 

 

Thanks

post #7331 of 13591

theres a SX1280 for sale on my local CL for 450$

i don't need (or even want really) another vintage receiver, but man, im fighting the urge here

post #7332 of 13591

blink.gif Can I get a cinnamon synonym for the word "Denial?"

post #7333 of 13591
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blink.gif Can I get a cinnamon synonym for the word "Denial?"

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post #7334 of 13591
If the 1280 is in good working condition and has nice cosmetics, $450 is a steal.
post #7335 of 13591

Indeed. ClassicAudio is trying to sell one in very good condition for $1,500. Serviced a bit but, this lets you know (reminder) to pick the one on CL up evil_smiley.gifon your way home.

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