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post #7246 of 13285
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Originally Posted by claybum View Post

@ harrinj

 

If you really want a Kenwoon model 11, I'd check out the one on Eugene craigslist. I saw the unit and it's really nice. $260 is a great price for a fully functioning model eleven thats been gone thru by a tech. I'd be all over it if I had a place to put it and my significant other didn't think I was already crazy. Jeff is a very cool guy and might be inclined to show you some of his extremely cool vintage gear. 

yeah I have seen that one on CL and I was gonna buy one in Florence Oregon a model eleven on craigslist but the guy said it was gone in his last email reply. 

post #7247 of 13285
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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post


It was in Clackamas, was listed for $150 and I got it for $120. Place called Stuff on 82nd. Don't think they had a Kenwood model 11 but I can't say for sure. Next time I'm in there you want me to check?

hmmm I will tell my dad about that place. he's in to these now too... 

post #7248 of 13285
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Originally Posted by claybum View Post

@ harrinj

 

If you really want a Kenwoon model 11, I'd check out the one on Eugene craigslist. I saw the unit and it's really nice. $260 is a great price for a fully functioning model eleven thats been gone thru by a tech. I'd be all over it if I had a place to put it and my significant other didn't think I was already crazy. Jeff is a very cool guy and might be inclined to show you some of his extremely cool vintage gear. 

wait was that you with the one in Florence, OR on Craigslist? he said almost the same thing!

post #7249 of 13285
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Originally Posted by harrinj View Post

hmmm I will tell my dad about that place. he's in to these now too... 

Tell him to ask for Hal, who is the owner. Good guy to chat with about vintage and you can get a discount. When I walked in with my headphones, RCA cables and iPod the look he gave me was priceless.
post #7250 of 13285
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Originally Posted by 5aces View Post


Receiver/Tuner type absolutely do matter.
I hope you can hook up a good outdoor whip and tell all how blown away you are with FM broadcast !

 

Another mention of the importance of antenna and the actual FM tuner.  I have a rooftop antenna that pulls in weak, but very high quality Jazz stations in my area (and yes some are PBS).   These stations have, what seems to be little or no compression - awesome sound.  MY Kenwood KT-7550 has had all electrolytics replaced, and all signal path caps replaced with film.  The OPAMP is upgraded and power rerouted away from the signal path.  The output coupling caps were removed also (the new OPAMP has virtually no DC offset) and new outputs were wired in with Cardas litz.  Also added an IEC inlet to allow the power cord of my choice.  With each of these mods the sonic improvements were stunning.  This is what I listen to 99% of the time - it is that good - I would venture to say it is the best component in my system.

post #7251 of 13285
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

Im not sure, but I think Internet radio is different from MOG, Pandora, etc.

Ive heard some radio stations digital streams and they sound dreadful. But MOG is truly CD quality sound - its as though your spinning the disc yourself.

MOG is good... My go to for streaming, but it's not THAT good... 320 is what I understood. It sounds better than I remember FM sounding but then it's been nearly 40 years since I listened to FM seriously at all. My FM station these days is sports talk.
post #7252 of 13285
Even FM stations using compressors (which are analog volume-level and not data-reduction "compression") sound better to me than Internet radio at 128k. At 192k and above, the signal being out out by the FM or Internet station will matter a lot in determining which sounds better, again assuming the FM station is coming in we'll from a good antenna.

But my public radio non-compressed jazz FM station sounds better than even 320kbps streams, coming from the excellent tuner of my SX-1980.
post #7253 of 13285
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post

Even FM stations using compressors (which are analog volume-level and not data-reduction "compression") sound better to me than Internet radio at 128k. At 192k and above, the signal being out out by the FM or Internet station will matter a lot in determining which sounds better, again assuming the FM station is coming in we'll from a good antenna.

But my public radio non-compressed jazz FM station sounds better than even 320kbps streams, coming from the excellent tuner of my SX-1980.

 

Someday - I hope to get my hands on a 1980.  Hoping the prices come down eventually.

post #7254 of 13285

I was wondering how the Marantz 1070 would compare to the Marantz 2230. I understand that the 1070 is an integrated amplifier, whereas the 2230 also has a tuner. Besides the features, how do you guys think these two compare in sound. I'll be using either them with LCD-2 & HE-500 - also speakers, but mainly headphones.

post #7255 of 13285
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

I was wondering how the Marantz 1070 would compare to the Marantz 2230. I understand that the 1070 is an integrated amplifier, whereas the 2230 also has a tuner. Besides the features, how do you guys think these two compare in sound. I'll be using either them with LCD-2 & HE-500 - also speakers, but mainly headphones.

As I understand it the 1060 is the 2230 sans the tuner.  I have read that many think it sounds better than the 2230.   I had a 2230 a while back and was not impressed - so for my tastes the 1060 would have to be much better.   Not sure where the 1070 fits into all this and have not heard it - but am guessing it has more power than the 30WPC.

post #7256 of 13285
1070 is 35 wpc. If you like the looks of the receivers get the 2230 if you prefer the less ornate look of the integrated get the 1070. After 35+ years of varying use and environmental conditions, you can't say with a blanket statement that one or the other model sounds better than the other unless you have two examples right in front of you and can AB them.
1070 will be easier to work on and recap.
Edited by Argybargy - 5/16/13 at 3:15pm
post #7257 of 13285
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Originally Posted by SpeakerBox View Post

Another mention of the importance of antenna and the actual FM tuner.MY Kenwood KT-7550.This is what I listen to 99% of the time - it is that good - I would venture to say it is the best component in my system.

Very nice sounding tuner,especially with your attention to updates.

I should like to mention that when Cellphone Towers and the Internet are down,radio waves are still the lifeline.
AM/FM,Shortwave and Ham radio operators get the message out in a disaster.
I was reading about HAM radio operators involvement during the Boston Marathon crisis,stopping the runners,providing emergency updates etc.
They have been an integral part of the marathon for many years.

Informative .PDF communications handbook produced for first time HAM operators working the Boston Marathon.
http://www.mmra.org/marc/Boston%20Marathon%20Survival%20Guide.pdf
post #7258 of 13285
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Originally Posted by Argybargy View Post

1070 is 35 wpc. If you like the looks of the receivers get the 2230 if you prefer the less ornate look of the integrated get the 1070. After 35+ years of varying use and environmental conditions, you can't say with a blanket statement that one or the other model sounds better than the other unless you have two examples right in front of you and can AB them.
1070 will be easier to work on and recap.

 

 

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Originally Posted by SpeakerBox View Post

As I understand it the 1060 is the 2230 sans the tuner.  I have read that many think it sounds better than the 2230.   I had a 2230 a while back and was not impressed - so for my tastes the 1060 would have to be much better.   Not sure where the 1070 fits into all this and have not heard it - but am guessing it has more power than the 30WPC.

 

Thanks for the comparisons and tips. I was reading up on how the specs were measured back in the 70s compared to now. It was definitely more stringent back then. It was suggested that these vintage amps actually have more power than they state, in comparison to today, where the trend is backwards.

 

Looks like it will end up being the 1070 most probably. Should have it finalized by next week. I don't need a tuner, but I will miss the sexy lights on the 2230. On the other hand, at least the 1070 won't be distracting.

post #7259 of 13285
Ive never had a rooftop antenna for FM. Even when I lived in Los Angeles, I used a Terk in the window with my Carver Receiver.
post #7260 of 13285
When I bought my first house, which was a 50's ranch-style, it had an arial antenna. I hooked it up and was BLOWN AWAY by how good FM sounded. I'd never really heard it completely noiseless before. It was revelatory.
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