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Question about vintage stax:

 

Some months back, someone asked if anyone used vintage Stax with their vintage amp.  I do; I have an SRD-7 energizer driving some hard-worn SR-X Mk3's.  I think they sound great, although I've had a couple of people ask if they're part of a Steampunk costume.  (Round metal ear cups, leather band, cloth-covered cable... and high voltage!  I guess they are steampunky...)

 

Someone mentioned something about a mod for the SRD-7 that would give you a high bias and a low bias jack?  That would be pretty great... is there any other information about that around?

 

As a note, I have the Marantz Electrostatic headphones and energizer.  They look really cool, and match the gear, but clamp too hard and sound lousy compared to the Stax.  Give them a pass.

post #5987 of 13340

Anyone using their loudness button?  I have not used it on any vintage receiver before the Pioneer SX-850, but it's too lean and lifeless without it.

The Sansui G-3000, Pioneer SX-737 and Marantz 2215B, 2230B all had too much bass with the loudness button, but the SX-850, it sounds just right.

post #5988 of 13340

Not Loudness, but on the SX-1980, I use the bottom of the two bass controls to ass 2 dB at 50 Hz, which I really like.  One should not be afraid to use tone controls wink_face.gif


Edited by Skylab - 10/10/12 at 9:47am
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I have not found a need for using the Loudness switch on either my SX-780 or Marantz 2250.  I have found that both receivers are capable of delivering powerful bass without using the Loudness switch for my HD650's or D5000's.  Now on the 2250 I find the treble a little rolled off so I have adjusted the Mid and Treble nobs up a notch.  And I have not been struck down dead by the Audiophile Gods for committing such a crime!  wink_face.gif

post #5990 of 13340

No loudness switch used here either on my 2226B. I have itunes EQ set to flat and turned off. On the Marantz, the bass and midrange controls are straight up at 12, treble knob is down one click. SQ is absolutely perfect to my ears!

 

Confession...This Marantz 2226B/HE-500 combo sounds so good, I haven't listened to my beloved Lyr in weeks. However, with temps falling I may fire the Lyr up for winter listening. wink_face.gif


Edited by OldSkool - 10/10/12 at 10:17am
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Have not done so to date, with the SX-D7000. Using D7000 cans, things sound right. But now wink_face.gif you've got me curious; will explore tomorrow night!

post #5992 of 13340
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Originally Posted by Lou Erickson View Post

 

Someone mentioned something about a mod for the SRD-7 that would give you a high bias and a low bias jack...

 

As a note, I have the Marantz Electrostatic headphones and energizer.  They look really cool, and match the gear, but clamp too hard and sound lousy compared to the Stax.  Give them a pass.

RE the mod pcb for the SRD-7, Spritzer is your man. He was selling them for awhile; don't know if he still is. Or you can watch for an SRD-7 Mk 2 (or an SRD-7 Professional, but that one gives you two high-bias jacks).

 

I was pleasantly surprised by my Marantz SE-1, but I'm not using the Marantz transformer box. I already had my Magnavox 'stats wired in, so I plugged the SE-1 into that. I don't know if that would improve your impression of your SE-1, but a box swap might be worth a try. You should be able to reduce the clamping force by slightly unbending the headband.

post #5993 of 13340
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Originally Posted by wualta View Post

I was pleasantly surprised by my Marantz SE-1, but I'm not using the Marantz transformer box. I already had my Magnavox 'stats wired in, so I plugged the SE-1 into that. I don't know if that would improve your impression of your SE-1, but a box swap might be worth a try.


Assuming the wiring is pinned the same though right? Wasn't there some deviation in these Stax clones as far as pin-outs?

 

Also I love using the tone defeat on this integrated , best thing ever.

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Yes, all the SR-3 mutants Stax OEM'd for Magnavox, Marantz and Radio Shack use the same connectors and are interchangeable, but the plug wiring is not the same as Stax-branded SR-3s, or Stax-branded anything, for that matter.

 

So, you like the tone defeat switch on the JVC A-X55, eh?

post #5995 of 13340
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Originally Posted by wualta View Post

RE the mod pcb for the SRD-7, Spritzer is your man. He was selling them for awhile; don't know if he still is. Or you can watch for an SRD-7 Mk 2 (or an SRD-7 Professional, but that one gives you two high-bias jacks).

 

I was pleasantly surprised by my Marantz SE-1, but I'm not using the Marantz transformer box. I already had my Magnavox 'stats wired in, so I plugged the SE-1 into that. I don't know if that would improve your impression of your SE-1, but a box swap might be worth a try. You should be able to reduce the clamping force by slightly unbending the headband.

 

Interesting.  If I can find a pinout I can build an adapter.  I thought the idea of a more closed 'stat would be good, but the sound was lackluster.  Maybe it is the box.

 

I'll shoot Spritzer a PM and see what he has to say.  Worst case, he says no.  Thanks for the tip on that!  A high-bias socket would be excellent, and let me try some of the newer Stax.  So would getting off my lazy butt and building the exStata amp I have all the parts for, though.  :)

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All the pinout info you need is right here... somewhere... on HF, possibly in one of the long Stax threads. I always considered the SE-1 to be the best of the SR-3 Mutants (or "clones", though they're too different to be true clones). So if you don't hear good sound out of yours, one of the things to try first would be a different box. However.. you do have to be prepared to find that your sample lived a hard life and isn't going to sound better without an overhaul. I hope it's less painful than that. Get with the Spritzer-crowd and keep us posted.

post #5997 of 13340
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Originally Posted by OldSkool View Post

No loudness switch used here either on my 2226B. I have itunes EQ set to flat and turned off. On the Marantz, the bass and midrange controls are straight up at 12, treble knob is down one click. SQ is absolutely perfect to my ears!

 

Confession...This Marantz 2226B/HE-500 combo sounds so good, I haven't listened to my beloved Lyr in weeks. However, with temps falling I may fire the Lyr up for winter listening. wink_face.gif

the part about the HE500 is encouraging.  been eyeballing them or the LCD2 for a while now.  would most likely power with my 2245 or 2270 since the WA2 might not have the juice for em.

 

i play my stuff flat for headphones and my marantz's flat for speakers, but do turn the bass knob to 1 ocklock on my Sansui and Kenwood for speakers.

post #5998 of 13340
I just picked up a Kenwood KA5500 yesterday and been listening with my old HD555 through the headphone jack. Wow! Didn't expect it to have so much power coming out of it and I had to switch on the attenuator so I can have some leeway with the volume control. I must say this amp is pretty neutral sounding with a touch of warmth. Very strong bass even with tone defeat on.

Anyone tried this amp with a HE-6?
Edited by Rossliew - 10/14/12 at 9:23am
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See next post


Edited by stevensctt - 10/14/12 at 2:54pm
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Here is the Sansui 8080, after some completed work.

Selector switch disassembled, cleaned with tarnish remover, ultrasonic and DeOxit

Protection relay removed and contacts burnished and cleaned

Replaced indicator lamps with LED

Replaced dial and meter lamps with LED

Cleaned all switches and controls

Aligned FM for optimum performance

Aligned audio output stages to factory specs

Removed vinyl laminate on wood case and replaced with Cherry Veneer. Finished only with boiled Linseed Oil at the moment.

Looks and Sounds Great!

 


Edited by stevensctt - 10/14/12 at 2:52pm
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