Calling All "Vintage" Integrated/Receiver Owners
Jun 16, 2011 at 6:11 PM Post #1,651 of 19,093
I want to hook up some speakers to my SX-950, but I am not sure if there is a better way then bare cable. It only has the clamp style speaker terminals. All of the speaker cable I have hanging around is either terminated with spades or bananas. Obviously I can cut the ends off, but I wasn't sure if cable oxidation is a problem. There may be some very skinny banana plug style thing I can use. Or I could try and tin the ends, though I have never done that before. I am just looking to get a consensus as to the best method.
 
 
 
Jun 16, 2011 at 6:46 PM Post #1,652 of 19,093


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I want to hook up some speakers to my SX-950, but I am not sure if there is a better way then bare cable. It only has the clamp style speaker terminals. All of the speaker cable I have hanging around is either terminated with spades or bananas. Obviously I can cut the ends off, but I wasn't sure if cable oxidation is a problem. There may be some very skinny banana plug style thing I can use. Or I could try and tin the ends, though I have never done that before. I am just looking to get a consensus as to the best method.
 
 

If you're worried about oxidation, you could always just tin regular speaker wire with some solder. Haven't had a problem with tined or bare wires.
 
 
 
Jun 16, 2011 at 7:12 PM Post #1,654 of 19,093
From my 1980 JBL L112 Instruction Manual bare wire is O.K.




Look for "Speaker Wire Pin Connectors" plenty out there,eBay etc.

I use the angled pin connectors and 16 gauge speaker wire,under $1.00/foot.

 
Jun 16, 2011 at 8:07 PM Post #1,657 of 19,093


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Some vintage amp has huge cylinder protruding on top of the case.  The manual said that they are electrolytic capacitors.  Are those capacitors of that size still available?  Or they are huge just because of old technology, so we can replace them with much smaller but similar rating ones?  My concern was the possibility of find replacement parts.
 


 


Those are the receivers that are best, i love the amps like the 1250 and the $8,000 Sansui's that have the huge air vent that takes up half of the amp and you can see the huge capacitors.
 
 
 
Jun 16, 2011 at 8:26 PM Post #1,658 of 19,093


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Anyone familiar with Realistic STA- 2100? It's supposed to be made by foster (fostex)
 


The STA series of amplifiers are very underrated, they are powerful, well built and can be had cheap because it struts the name Realistic on them.  However, lately prices of Realistic items have gone up.  There were 2 version, the STA-2100 and STA-2100D, the D meant it was the newer version and does not have the toroidal transformer, while the STA-2100 does.  Great receiver if you can get your hands on one.
 
 
Jun 16, 2011 at 8:36 PM Post #1,659 of 19,093


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The STA series of amplifiers are very underrated, they are powerful, well built and can be had cheap because it struts the name Realistic on them.  However, lately prices of Realistic items have gone up.  There were 2 version, the STA-2100 and STA-2100D, the D meant it was the newer version and does not have the toroidal transformer, while the STA-2100 does.  Great receiver if you can get your hands on one.
 




I just want to point out that STA-2100 was well built, but the sound signature is not good as well regarded Marantz, Sui, Pioneer, Yammy, Luxman, Rotel and Kenwood. It still has warm sound, but you will fell little flat, lifeless. My 80's NAD 7240pe has much sweet sound than Realistic. I have Sanyo and Technics at hand. And I will rate STA-2100 a little below Sanyo and Technics which are below those big name above. Well, if you use 2100 to drive speakers, that's another story. All my observation is based on my AKG Q-701.
 
Jun 16, 2011 at 8:55 PM Post #1,660 of 19,093
Where did you guys get the pin type plug. Amazon and monoprice are selling over $1/foot, and they are big pins, not small pins that can fit into all vintage receiver or amp.


http://axiomaudio.com/bulkcable.html
Up here I use this speaker cable,12 gauge all copper .93 cents/foot
Found a 50' spool of 16 gauge Monster XPHP (I know...) on clearance so I picked it up,it fits good.
The angled pin connectors were up here at Future Shop,clearance too(same as BestBuy).
They fit the vintage gear just fine.12 gauge wire is too big to fit bare on some vintage amps/receivers.
Search on eBay for the pins if you don't mind ordering online or even RadioShack if you're stuck out there somewheres.
 
Jun 16, 2011 at 9:21 PM Post #1,661 of 19,093
How much do you thinks these will finally go for?  No matter how vintage I wouldn't pay this or anything near this, although the pair does look like they are in excellent condition.
 
 
http://phoenix.ebayclassifieds.com/electronics/phoenix/pioneer-cs-99a-vintage-speakers-collectible-fb-cones-nice/?ad=10839860
 
Jun 16, 2011 at 9:36 PM Post #1,662 of 19,093


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http://axiomaudio.com/bulkcable.html
Up here I use this speaker cable,12 gauge all copper .93 cents/foot
Found a 50' spool of 16 gauge Monster XPHP (I know...) on clearance so I picked it up,it fits good.
The angled pin connectors were up here at Future Shop,clearance too(same as BestBuy).
They fit the vintage gear just fine.12 gauge wire is too big to fit bare on some vintage amps/receivers.
Search on eBay for the pins if you don't mind ordering online or even RadioShack if you're stuck out there somewheres.

Oh, sorry, I want to buy the plug (connector), not wire. I just wan to buy the thin pin type, bare wire is fine, but not convenient as plug. Especially when you have many receivers to enjoy. I checked Bestbuy and Radio Shack, they have big thick pin from the infamous M. But they don't carry small (thin) pin plug.
 
 
 
Jun 16, 2011 at 9:39 PM Post #1,663 of 19,093


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How much do you thinks these will finally go for?  No matter how vintage I wouldn't pay this or anything near this, although the pair does look like they are in excellent condition.
 
 
http://phoenix.ebayclassifieds.com/electronics/phoenix/pioneer-cs-99a-vintage-speakers-collectible-fb-cones-nice/?ad=10839860



Do some research on AK, they have enormous info about Pioneer speakers. CS-99a is for rock, you will want one as Skylab HPM-100. I found one pair CS-99a around me for $150, but not as minty as the one in your link.
 
Jun 16, 2011 at 10:34 PM Post #1,664 of 19,093
... All of the speaker cable I have hanging around is either terminated with spades or bananas. Obviously I can cut the ends off, but I wasn't sure if cable oxidation is a problem. There may be some very skinny banana plug style thing I can use. Or I could try and tin the ends, though I have never done that before. I am just looking to get a consensus as to the best method.
If you're swapping out one amp for another with long-term intentions, you may as well cut the cable. But if your plan is to experiment with a variety of amps, don't cut anything - use an adaptor instead. Get a set of skinny tipped speaker plugs like these, from Monoprice. The female end securely holds a banana plug. I bought a set for doing exactly this. They work.

So to use your banana plug-tipped speaker cables: To plug into amps with banana sockets or multi-way terminals, use the banana plugs. To plug into amps with spring-clip speaker terminals, plug the banana plugs into the plugs linked above and use those. Note the adaptors are bare metal, so you'll have to wrap in tape or heat-shrink to keep them from shorting if they shift and knock into each other.
 
Jun 16, 2011 at 10:45 PM Post #1,665 of 19,093


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If you're swapping out one amp for another with long-term intentions, you may as well cut the cable. But if your plan is to experiment with a variety of amps, don't cut anything - use an adaptor instead. Get a set of skinny tipped speaker plugs like these, from Monoprice. The female end securely holds a banana plug. I bought a set for doing exactly this. They work.

So to use your banana plug-tipped speaker cables: To plug into amps with banana sockets or multi-way terminals, use the banana plugs. To plug into amps with spring-clip speaker terminals, plug the banana plugs into the plugs linked above and use those. Note the adaptors are bare metal, so you'll have to wrap in tape or heat-shrink to keep them from shorting if they shift and knock into each other.


Could this pin and female banana plugs fit into Pioneer and Sui? I thought they were a little thick. Also, do you need to buy rubber band to cover up the metal part? Sometime I found banana plugs are too close to short the system. And I think vintage receiver and amp have more close speaker port, so using this pin to banana convertor may cause problem. Thanks!!
 
 

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