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Got my Marantz 2238B today.  Two reasons why I bought this particular model : one, like most Marantz receivers it has the "mono" option & I have the Beatles Mono Box Set; two, it's the same receiver I bought back in '79, which as I stated in an earlier post, was my first "quality" amplifier/stereo system I ever bought & I remember liking it.  

 

As I'm writing I'm listening to the "Hard Days Night" album with the mono option on, the bass at 3 o'clock, the mids at 1 o'clock, the treble at 5 o'clock & the vol. at 9 o'clock.  I'm presently using the HD600; earlier I listened to Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band with the K702.  The mono recording is centred & w/the mono option on the receiver the sound comes to the forefront & is more spread out at the same time/better soundstage.  The instruments are clear & separated.  The voices are distinct & quite nice.  Everything is balanced.  It's about what I was hoping for because the Beatles' Mono recordings are different than the stereo ones & since the emphasis on the production quality was on the mono versions when they recorded their albums (in mono until the end of 1967, Magical Mystery Tour) it's quite different to listen to them in mono on the amp/receiver. With the Fisher 500C & the Kenwood KA-8006 I can only listen to the mono albums in stereo mode.  As I've already indicated the "mono" mode on the Marantz makes a big difference to my ears anyways & I have my old amp back.  It's all good.  Love the vintage sound. :cool:

The 2238B is a nice one. congrats! 

Thanks harinnj.

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Got my Marantz 2238B today.  Two reasons why I bought this particular model : one, like most Marantz receivers it has the "mono" option & I have the Beatles Mono Box Set; two, it's the same receiver I bought back in '79, which as I stated in an earlier post, was my first "quality" amplifier/stereo system I ever bought & I remember liking it.  

 

As I'm writing I'm listening to the "Hard Days Night" album with the mono option on, the bass at 3 o'clock, the mids at 1 o'clock, the treble at 5 o'clock & the vol. at 9 o'clock.  I'm presently using the HD600; earlier I listened to Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band with the K702.  The mono recording is centred & w/the mono option on the receiver the sound comes to the forefront & is more spread out at the same time/better soundstage.  The instruments are clear & separated.  The voices are distinct & quite nice.  Everything is balanced.  It's about what I was hoping for because the Beatles' Mono recordings are different than the stereo ones & since the emphasis on the production quality was on the mono versions when they recorded their albums (in mono until the end of 1967, Magical Mystery Tour) it's quite different to listen to them in mono on the amp/receiver. With the Fisher 500C & the Kenwood KA-8006 I can only listen to the mono albums in stereo mode.  As I've already indicated the "mono" mode on the Marantz makes a big difference to my ears anyways & I have my old amp back.  It's all good.  Love the vintage sound. :cool:

Congrats and pleased you're enjoying it buddy! 

 

How is the normal stereo sound without tone added compared to your Fisher? 

Thanks Lugbug.  The "stereo" sound is warmer than the Fisher (as you correctly pointed out in an earlier post) & the soundstage isn't as wide but even with a warmer sound the detail is descent enough. I haven't really listened to it enough in stereo yet to give it a fair assessment. Even though it's not as important, aesthetically it's quite impressive, especially at night time (good God I used to talk about my wife like that …. no doubt about it I'm getting old).  I almost forgot : the "mono" button sticks when it's pushed or doesn't stay pushed "in" the first time; it's one or the other & I emailed the seller about it.  I pointed out that in his description of the amp this problem was not pointed out.  He replied asking me for a compensatory suggestion, so, I asked for a $50 reimbursement which he sent to my PayPal account earlier today.  

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I was :basshead: after hearing how my "new to me" McIntosh MC2205 amp drove the HD800s.  So, I picked up a few more vintage pieces and an older DAC to cobble together a "poor man's MHA100".   :biggrin:

 

 

MC2505 50wpc amp

C31V preamp

Transporter DAC

 

This nearly 40-year old amp drives the HD800s with musical thump, full weight, rich vocals, and gobs of power.  Just awesome synergy.  These pieces are sitting on my desk, also driving a pair of Paradigm Studio 20 v3.  Go vintage!

Very very nice. Congratulations deadie.  It may not be a "MHA 100" but it still looks impressive.  One day I've got to get me a McIntosh. (sounds like a pretty good slogan). 

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Very very nice. Congratulations deadie.  It may not be a "MHA 100" but it still looks impressive.  One day I've got to get me a McIntosh. (sounds like a pretty good slogan). 

 

Thanks man.  Yep, I've heard the MHA100, and it's an impressive beast.  Very strong and musical.  I would love to own it, but not at its full retail price.  

 

As such, after getting the "McSound" in my head, I spent many weeks watching the bay and 'gon for vintage gear, and came away with this combo at 28% of the MHA100's going rate.  I'd say... 80%+ the performance (primarily black / noise level, not power) for a third of the price.  Not too shabby.  

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Very very nice. Congratulations deadie.  It may not be a "MHA 100" but it still looks impressive.  One day I've got to get me a McIntosh. (sounds like a pretty good slogan). 

 

Thanks man.  Yep, I've heard the MHA100, and it's an impressive beast.  Very strong and musical.  I would love to own it, but not at its full retail price.  

 

As such, after getting the "McSound" in my head, I spent many weeks watching the bay and 'gon for vintage gear, and came away with this combo at 28% of the MHA100's going rate.  I'd say... 80%+ the performance (primarily black / noise level, not power) for a third of the price.  Not too shabby.  

28% of the price for 80% of the performance = sweet deal :beerchug:

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Here is a 2238B that popped up here today. fantastic price (rolls eyes) LOL 

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Harrinj, our buddy Doug has a McIntosh for sale for............$1985. Didn't even see the model but it has a "new tube".

Wow...........
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Nice. Did he finally sell that 2325 or is it still there?
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Nice. Did he finally sell that 2325 or is it still there?

Not sure as I don't pay attention to the Marantz units in his shop but he had a Marantz on that center island for $895 and another next to the front counter for $695 next to a Pioneer SX-1080 which was $575.

I think that center island one has been there for months..........
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Here is a 2238B that popped up here today. fantastic price (rolls eyes) LOL 

Must have forgot to put the link in http://medford.craigslist.org/ele/4627071298.html seller must be living in la-la land but if someone will buy it then the more power to him. 

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Not sure as I don't pay attention to the Marantz units in his shop but he had a Marantz on that center island for $895 and another next to the front counter for $695 next to a Pioneer SX-1080 which was $575.

I think that center island one has been there for months..........

I'm taking one there in a week for repair. Last time I was there, He had a Kenwood KA-8300 for $400 I wish I had gotten. The center island one has been that 2325 for at least from the later half of last year. He wanted $999 for it. Nobody seems interested at that price... I don't blame them. 

post #13286 of 13446
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Originally Posted by deadie View Post
 

I was :basshead: after hearing how my "new to me" McIntosh MC2205 amp drove the HD800s.  So, I picked up a few more vintage pieces and an older DAC to cobble together a "poor man's MHA100".   :biggrin:

 

 

MC2505 50wpc amp

C31V preamp

Transporter DAC

 

This nearly 40-year old amp drives the HD800s with musical thump, full weight, rich vocals, and gobs of power.  Just awesome synergy.  These pieces are sitting on my desk, also driving a pair of Paradigm Studio 20 v3.  Go vintage!

That's one great set up you've got there seriously! I'd give my right bolloc kidney for one of those slinky Macs. 

with regards to vintage dacs - If ever you come across an old Acam Black Box (the first model) snap it up and thank me later ;)

 

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Thanks Lugbug.  The "stereo" sound is warmer than the Fisher (as you correctly pointed out in an earlier post) & the soundstage isn't as wide but even with a warmer sound the detail is descent enough. I haven't really listened to it enough in stereo yet to give it a fair assessment. Even though it's not as important, aesthetically it's quite impressive, especially at night time (good God I used to talk about my wife like that …. no doubt about it I'm getting old).  I almost forgot : the "mono" button sticks when it's pushed or doesn't stay pushed "in" the first time; it's one or the other & I emailed the seller about it.  I pointed out that in his description of the amp this problem was not pointed out.  He replied asking me for a compensatory suggestion, so, I asked for a $50 reimbursement which he sent to my PayPal account earlier today.  

Hey 'shy bairns get nowt' as they say where I come from. Also, It's an important button for what you are using the amp for so I would get some switch cleaner (deoxit) in there and hopefully it should loosen it up a bit. While you are in there spray all the posts n' switches :)

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That's one great set up you've got there seriously! I'd give my right bolloc kidney for one of those slinky Macs. 

with regards to vintage dacs - If ever you come across an old Acam Black Box (the first model) snap it up and thank me later ;)

 

Thanks man!  And some interesting reading on that Arcam Black Box...  

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MC2505 50wpc amp



C31V preamp



Transporter DAC



 



This nearly 40-year old amp drives the HD800s with musical thump, full weight, rich vocals, and gobs of power.  Just awesome synergy.  These pieces are sitting on my desk, also driving a pair of Paradigm Studio 20 v3.  Go vintage!




Very nice setup. The 2505 is a really nice sounding amp. I too also own the 2205. It was really an eye opener compared to all of the other totl vintage gear I've owned. I loved it so much I gave it the full treatment(replaced many diodes, resistors, transistors and all electrolytics and a new glass faceplate). The end result was a sonic transformation that was on another league from the already superb stock form. It and the 500c are two pieces that I will never part with. My 2205 is the perfect blend of musicality and technicality in one package.
Edited by moodyrn - 8/20/14 at 9:53pm
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Very nice setup. The 2505 is a really nice sounding amp. I too also own the 2205. It was really an eye opener compared to all of the other totl vintage gear I've owned. I loved it so much I gave it the full treatment(replaced many diodes, resistors, transistors and all electrolytics and a new glass faceplate). The end result was a sonic transformation that was on another league from the already superb stock form. It and the 500c are two pieces that I will never part with. My 2205 is the perfect blend of musicality and technicality in one package.

 

Thanks!  Great quote: "perfect blend of musicality and technicality in one package"  

 

That's really the essence of these vintage Macs -- all the power you will ever need, balanced with long listening session musicality and richness.  I do wonder how their newer tube preamps / integrates perform, headphone wise, but the sky high cost of entry will likely keep me hunting the 'bay for quality vintage gear.  

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I would suggest you get the 2205 restored down the line if you don't want to spend the several thousands on a modern Mac. It has reached legend status over at audio karma. It has all of the features of modern macs(both power guard and auto transformers). And many say a fully restored one is on par with modern Mac amps. I can't say for sure if that's true, but restoring mine did bring it up a few notches in performance.
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