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Proud owner of this fully serviced Yamaha CR 2040.
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I have a Yamaha CR-830 in great shape, except for one issue: The headphone output has a small amount of noise. It's not a 60Hz hum, it's full spectrum and fairly quiet. Unfortunately it's enough to keep me from using my LCD-2 headphones as normal. It does sound fine with the -20dB button pressed, however. Any idea where I should begin to try to diagnose this issue? Thanks in advance for any help!

post #12828 of 13302
If it sounds fine with the -20dB muting engaged, why not just listen to headphones that way??? Several vintage units Iva had required that. Nothing wrong with listening that way.
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Proud owner of this fully serviced Yamaha CR 2040.

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Great stuff guys. I really need to check in here more often. Every time I step away for a few days this thread explodes!
I'm really happy to see more and more guys willing to take it upon themselves to put their precious gear under the knife. Once you gain more experience, it really is fun to do.

Trav I'm glad you pulled the trigger on the yammy. You are gone to have to invite me over one day for a listen.
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DanPluck, i think the LED'S on this unit really add to the "clean" look of it.  very nice.  (plus, with the bottom pic you provided, showing how it lights in a dark room, you can probably listen at night with just your SA-600 providing all the light in the room).  i like to listen at night with the only light being supplied by my audio equipment. 

 

 

and if the windows of my listening room faced the back yard, i'd probably have those curtain liners that the hotels use to completely block out the sunlight during the day. but my listening room has window blinds now, and this window faces the street.  (but, with my work schedule, i'm doing most of my listening during the week, and at night, anyway).

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DanPluck, i think the LED'S on this unit really add to the "clean" look of it.  very nice.  (plus, with the bottom pic you provided, showing how it lights in a dark room, you can probably listen at night with just your SA-600 providing all the light in the room).  i like to listen at night with the only light being supplied by my audio equipment. 


and if the windows of my listening room faced the back yard, i'd probably have those curtain liners that the hotels use to completely block out the sunlight during the day. but my listening room has window blinds now, and this window faces the street.  (but, with my work schedule, i'm doing most of my listening during the week, and at night, anyway).

Thank you. I thought i would try and keep it as stock as possible, it would have been really easy to turn it in to Dans technicolour reciever. Im very happy with the result and it sounds fantastic.

I will have a play with the Akai-AM2450 at the weekend.
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Wow, missed a few days and I have missed a lot; concepts, sony separates etc. Great stuff guys. That concept is probably on a lot of people short list. That was an incredible find. The sony setup just looks stunning!

 

Oregonian I'm really sorry to hear that about you he-6. As I've said many times before, the higher end pioneers have the most power headphone outs of all the gear I've had. Driving cans from the headphone out is almost like driving them from the speaker taps. Hifiman have been know to do free repairs with out of warranty he-6, so I hope they will do the same for you if yours are out our warranty.


Thanks I am happy with the concept 16.5 receiver. Frankly I myself was not aware of the concept line. I probably saw some of their units way back at one of the pacific stereo stores. But I was probably ogling the high end room with the harmon khardon citations the acoustic research AR 11s(which I eventually did buy from pacific stereo back then) and whatever high end brand equipment they carried at the time. I used to own a kenwood receiver and a onkyo receiver back in the day. I was primarily a speaker person back then but I did remember having several pairs of koss pro 4aas back then.

  I am still checking out the concept unit with my audeze phones. The sound seems to  be fairly musical with good bass and pretty decent dynamics. Just wish the lcd2s were just a bit less reticent at the top and a bit more alive in the top end. But I guess that is one of the limitations of the lcd2 design. As I read recently if top end resolution is at the top of your shopping list the lcd2 is probably not going to be on that list.

  Well time for some more listening the lcd2s are sounding pretty musical so far with the concept 16.5 receiver . Down the road a bit when things are not so tight I am thinking about having at least some of the caps replaced with some higher performance ones and possibly some film cps wherever practical. Maybe even some high grade output caps, But that is probably a ways down the road.

   Yes I was lucky to land the concept receiver wasn't I.


Edited by buson160man - 7/1/14 at 8:59pm
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Well, I did test out over 30 intergrated amplifiers and receivers with my T1's, and most of them sounded better than any of the <500 dollar headphone amps I've heard and had SIGNIFICANTLY more power as well, so I don't think I'm talking out of my ass. I just didn't try any old vintage ones and wonder what is it about them that makes them so good compared to new ones.  Of the ones that I found good....pretty much every Marantz, NAD, Cambridge Audio, Naim, Denon, Onkyo, etc., from entry level 400 dollar ones to higher end ones. I particularly remember the NAD 356BEE sounding very good, and some Naim (don't remember the model, but it was around 1500€) which actually made the T1's sound better than I've ever heard them sound before, incredibly smooth and effortless. With DT880 600 ohms and HD650's I  specifically A-B tested the Asus Xonar Essence One, Nuforce HDP and Cambridge Audio DAC Magic Plus to several amps they had in the store, and they all sounded slightly to significantly better than those dedicated headamp/DAC's, for same money, that's why I ended up buying an Onkyo A-5VL some time ago, it was simply better for headphones than any headphone amp/DAC in the price range that I've tried, plus it drives speakers very well too. It literally made the Cambridge Audo DAC Magic Plus's headphone output sound like crap, without exaggerating. Totally thin, lifeless, harsh, no body, no soundstage, bright, etc. The only one that could hold it's own was the Essence One, but that had nowhere near as power as any of the integrated amps or receivers, and was actually priced higher than the Onkyo A-5VL. Now I have the Musical Fidelity M1HPAP as my main headphone amp, which costs twice as much as the Onkyo, but actually has far less power and only sounds marginally better. I literally have to A-B test them to find that MF sounds very slightly more airy and a bit tighter, but I'm really talking about a VERY small difference. Onkyo has an in-built DAC as well, which is actually better than the in-built one in the M1HPAP, so used with their internal DAC's, the gap between them actually goes in favor of the Onkyo. Also, MF M1 on full volume with T1's is on about the same level as the Onkyo on 40%, plus, with M1 there's a slight hiss at over 3 o'clock on the volume, while with Onkyo there is no hiss at all, not even at full volume.  The only disadvantage of the Onkyo is running the low impedance headphones, especailly IEMs which totally don't work at all, they sound like loose boomy mess. But anything harder to drive, even low impedance like K701's and Q701's works really well, and Sennheiser HD650 as well as all the Beyers work wonderfully and virtually as good as out of a much more expensive headphone amp.


 I am not familiar with the onkyo integrated but I do own the companion sacd/cd player from onkyo the cs5vl and it is actually a pretty decent cd player. On sacd it is actually better sounding than my much more expensive denon 3931ci player. I still prefer the denon on regular cds.

   The 3930ci is still a exemplary dvd player though. I have compared it to the oppo bdp105 non darbee edition and the 3931ci just smoked the bdp 105 on video. The denon was noticeably sharper looking.

    But getting back to the onkyos I have read that both the the integrated amp and the sacd/cd player in this series are excellent values and pretty good performers. I imagine as apair they would probably be a very good sounding combination.


Edited by buson160man - 7/3/14 at 7:01pm
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   Yes I was lucky to land the concept receiver wasn't I.

 

Lol yes you were.:beerchug:

post #12836 of 13302
I've been on the lookout for an SX-1010 for a while now and I finally got my hands on one! Wow is all I can say. Killer sound!
post #12837 of 13302
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I've been on the lookout for an SX-1010 for a while now and I finally got my hands on one! Wow is all I can say. Killer sound!
 

 

Nice.  I've read there's something special about that particular model, sound wise.  Looks great too.

post #12838 of 13302
NICE! I had an SX-1010 for a while - great sounding receiver. I only sold it after I got my SX-1980 restored, but the 1010 is no slouch! Great piece.
post #12839 of 13302
Finally got something I really wanted.



Condition is excellent. Enjoying HD800 right now. Body and bass.

More tomorrow.
post #12840 of 13302

I love the sound of the SX-1010. Mine has been giving me some problems so it is out of rotation. Hope your 1010 gives you many years of musical joy.

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