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Don't care if I am called green - just want good sound.

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Originally Posted by SpeakerBox View Post
 

Don't care if I am called green - just want good sound.

Fair enough !

 

I mentioned because I have a couple of friends with Plinius 100w/ch class A jobs. These are switchable between AB and pure class A on the front panel - yet so far, I have never saw that class A typical mirage - pure class A really runs hot, hotter than comfortable to the touch. Usually lots of heatsinks.

 

There is one amp that hides its 100 or so/ch class A very classy under its classy wood  box - Swiss Physics.

 

 

 

You can see that preamp is physically larger than power amp - but that one really is wolf in sheep clothings. One of the few good implementations of heat pipe cooling in audio. Mirage guaranteed - no switching into anything less than pure class A.

Had a chance to "live" with this combo for about a month - in 1990 at then Empire Switzerland, today Benz Micro Switzerland. 

 

Vintage at its very best !


Edited by analogsurviver - 6/4/14 at 10:44am
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Very nice!

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I'm back, after I finally got my internet sorted out..!  (thank you for the kind words guys. I've enjoyed catching up the 57 posts since I've been a way. Some really great stuff.)

 

Been in my new house for nearly two weeks :) I love it!!

 

Now, I don't want anyone laughing at my 'temporary' living room set up here... It's hidden at the side of my sofa and behind wood doors! I'm good to my wife ;)

 

 

 

And this is the view from my listening chair

post #12650 of 16769
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post
 

I'm back, after I finally got my internet sorted out..!  (thank you for the kind words guys. I've enjoyed catching up the 57 posts since I've been a way. Some really great stuff.)

 

Been in my new house for nearly two weeks :) I love it!!

 

Now, I don't want anyone laughing at my 'temporary' living room set up here... It's hidden at the side of my sofa and behind wood doors! I'm good to my wife ;)

 

 

 

And this is the view from my listening chair

Welcome back ! 

 

Boy, does time fly - two weeks already ?

 

Now, I see you have nice "room" for Carver Amazing Loudspeaker - outdoors ! 

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Thread Starter 

Glad to see you back!!

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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post
 

I'm back, after I finally got my internet sorted out..!  (thank you for the kind words guys. I've enjoyed catching up the 57 posts since I've been a way. Some really great stuff.)

 

Been in my new house for nearly two weeks :) I love it!!

 

Now, I don't want anyone laughing at my 'temporary' living room set up here... It's hidden at the side of my sofa and behind wood doors! I'm good to my wife ;)

 

 

 

And this is the view from my listening chair

Very nice view but there's one thing that doesn't quite fit in this picture are you sure your still in the U.K. is it actually sunny lol ! 

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Nice stuff LugBug.

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would love to be able to give this piece a listen in person.   before seeing this vid, i had never heard of the yammy C-1 pre.  i think the guy in the vid has the C-1 hooked up to the "matching" power amp (the MX-2 ).   would be interested to hear what the h/p out on this piece sounds like, too.

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzfQJ9yNOIA&feature=player_detailpage

 

 

 

 

nice-looking piece.

 

notice at about 1:15, how the sound gets muddy when he cranks the "bass" (?) adjustment all the way to 5-o'clock.  it's hard to read what most of the adjustments are. most of the script on this piece of equipment is a blur.

 

nice vid, though for someone like me who has never seen this particular yamaha piece before.

 

 

notice he's using a Nakamichi cassette deck for playback.


Edited by terry parr - 6/5/14 at 8:15pm
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Welcome back Lug Bug..........was wondering where you were!

Report of an inbound Pioneer SA-9900 to arrive tomorrow............eek.gif
Edited by Oregonian - 6/5/14 at 8:01pm
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Thank you guys! Thats great news Oregonian, you're sure wheeling in the Pioneers at the mo! :beerchug: 

 

@MIKELAP That was one hour of sunshine, out of 468 hours of rain we've just had.. :D (but its good for the garden!)

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Well the beast has landed.  Picked up the SA-9900 from Doug over at Audio Specialties (he was doing his "tune up" on it after taking it in on trade) and when people say things were worth waiting for, usually as a cliche.  This was no cliche. 

 

So I've been making the move towards all Pioneer lately.  My Spec system transition was finished off with the swap out of a PL-S50 turntable in place of the Yamaha (not that the Yamaha wasn't a fine unit) and system two was started last week with the SX-1050 I found on Craigslist.  My plan is this - get all high power units where possible with the goal of each having over 100 wpc.  It's not for any crazy notion that I'll actually use all the power but I'm a believer in having the extra power in reserve, with my personal experience having me feel that they do make a difference, mostly just in quality and depth of the sound. 

 

Fast forward a week - Doug has a rack behind the main sales area for units that are on "police hold" for a month.  How it works - a guy sells him a receiver/amp and he has them fingerprinted, get all their addresses, check DL and the Portland PD are notified of the serial numbers.  Anyway, it's a guarantee to Doug that nothing he buys is hot and therefore we all can feel good about dealing with him.  So there sat the SA-9900, set to be released yesterday.  This is one of my dream amplifiers since I've been researching Pioneer high wattage receivers/amps.  It's 110 wpc into 8 ohms by the way, so it meets my goal.  I traded in one of my two Kenwood KA-5700 integrated amps (40 wpc with some sweet meters) so it lessened the cost for me and kept the wife off my back (I have my own rule that all vintage units have to be hooked up and being used <she likes the rule>, even if it's not every day).

 

So I learned something very important today with getting this amp back home and hooked up in the garage system (fed by a HP netbook--->NuForce uDac2--->SA-9900--->Klipsch 3.2 walnut) about the value yet again of Deoxit.  Yes, I already knew about using it on scratchy volume pots, but Doug gives all amps/receivers a complete tune up as he calls it, with the usual stuff like aligning the tuner, set DC offset, etc.   He also takes apart all switches, cleans them all and to be honest, I am now a believer in going all the way after doing a side by side listen.  My SX-1050 sounded good and had no scratchiness, was immaculate inside and out, but I have to remember it is 38 years old.  So long story short (sorry guys) the SX-1050 is at his shop getting the tune up because of how the SA-9900 sounded when I fired it up with the above chain.  Holy crap, I could not believe the difference between the two units.  It's not possible to describe how much better, but it was so radical a difference it is like the SA-9900 sounds like my Spec 2 amp.   Enough of the boring talk - here's the vintage porn.

 

 

 

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Congrats Oregonian, thats one serious beast of an amp :beerchug: 

 

Thats also a good point you've raised about taking all the parts out to clean. Deoxit can get things going again and of-course help to de-oxidise, but it probably won't dissolve dirt. A lot of time and patience needed to dissemble .... But the rewards! 

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Wow it sure is! Congrats indeed!!!! Very nice.
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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post
 

Well the beast has landed.  Picked up the SA-9900 from Doug over at Audio Specialties (he was doing his "tune up" on it after taking it in on trade) and when people say things were worth waiting for, usually as a cliche.  This was no cliche. 

 

So I've been making the move towards all Pioneer lately.  My Spec system transition was finished off with the swap out of a PL-S50 turntable in place of the Yamaha (not that the Yamaha wasn't a fine unit) and system two was started last week with the SX-1050 I found on Craigslist.  My plan is this - get all high power units where possible with the goal of each having over 100 wpc.  It's not for any crazy notion that I'll actually use all the power but I'm a believer in having the extra power in reserve, with my personal experience having me feel that they do make a difference, mostly just in quality and depth of the sound. 

 

Fast forward a week - Doug has a rack behind the main sales area for units that are on "police hold" for a month.  How it works - a guy sells him a receiver/amp and he has them fingerprinted, get all their addresses, check DL and the Portland PD are notified of the serial numbers.  Anyway, it's a guarantee to Doug that nothing he buys is hot and therefore we all can feel good about dealing with him.  So there sat the SA-9900, set to be released yesterday.  This is one of my dream amplifiers since I've been researching Pioneer high wattage receivers/amps.  It's 110 wpc into 8 ohms by the way, so it meets my goal.  I traded in one of my two Kenwood KA-5700 integrated amps (40 wpc with some sweet meters) so it lessened the cost for me and kept the wife off my back (I have my own rule that all vintage units have to be hooked up and being used <she likes the rule>, even if it's not every day).

 

So I learned something very important today with getting this amp back home and hooked up in the garage system (fed by a HP netbook--->NuForce uDac2--->SA-9900--->Klipsch 3.2 walnut) about the value yet again of Deoxit.  Yes, I already knew about using it on scratchy volume pots, but Doug gives all amps/receivers a complete tune up as he calls it, with the usual stuff like aligning the tuner, set DC offset, etc.   He also takes apart all switches, cleans them all and to be honest, I am now a believer in going all the way after doing a side by side listen.  My SX-1050 sounded good and had no scratchiness, was immaculate inside and out, but I have to remember it is 38 years old.  So long story short (sorry guys) the SX-1050 is at his shop getting the tune up because of how the SA-9900 sounded when I fired it up with the above chain.  Holy crap, I could not believe the difference between the two units.  It's not possible to describe how much better, but it was so radical a difference it is like the SA-9900 sounds like my Spec 2 amp.   Enough of the boring talk - here's the vintage porn.

 

 

 

He he, one can talk, write, make measurements, produce graphs - you name it....

 

Nothing like: ...holy crap...!   moment - after hearing side by side one vintage and another vintage piece of the same type overhauled like this one above.

 

Congrats & - ENJOY !

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