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post #11671 of 16769
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Thanks Skylab. And given how strict ups is with claims, the way they packaged it met not of their criteria. So this is going to cost them. All they had to do was to insure they arrive safely by making sure they were properly packaged. But you're right. They don't seem to get, especially with ebay current buyer protection rules, that the only person who have anything to lose are the sellers themselves. Smh.

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Well, just as I feared, the MR-78 is fantastic and the numbers prove it.

Forget dB sensitivity and selectivity, I wanted a number that couldn't be fudged.

I made a full sweep of the McIntosh MR-78 and the Pioneer SX-1980 tuners. The mac was able to pull in 44 stations to the pioneer's 31. Of those, I would consider 29 of them to be strong enough to be enjoyable to only 20 for the pioneer, with the rest weak or static-y.

I was able to get one FM station on both from Orlando about 200 miles away without any othe special equipment. On the mac, it was pleasant enough for a listen, though a bit more static than I usually prefer. On the pioneer, it was only findable with some fiddling and it still came in entirely too fuzzy to be enjoyable.

Bottom line, that's 9 more stations to choose from. Granted that this is the American South, so just because I can receive it doesn't mean I care to.

Since the sx-1980 tuner was previously the best I've ever heard, and it has been restored to be as good as it will be, I was somewhat blown away by how handily the mac beat it. It wasn't even close.

 

 

Also, the bass on these klipsch cornwalls is just magical and the vocals are beautiful. I think they have a wooden horn or something on there that is doing a nice job to keep it silky.

Even in my less than optimal arrangement, there is a definite sense of imaging and a more or less 3D soundstage. I am definitely blown away by this setup.

Obviously the c-32 preamp and MC-2125 amp are also fantastic. Voices sound realistic, the sound feels full and well developed. I haven't heard it clip or even distort , even when challenged. 

 

To compare the klipsch cornwall speakers to the mcintosh xr-16 speakers probably isn't fair. The klipsch have about 3x as much woofer surface area. The bass is just better from them, and feels more natural all the way down to the deepest lows. The macs have taut and controlled bass, but just can't go as low. The mids are different, but equally good. The macs are more detailed, but they both nail the human voice. I think the treble is a little better from the macs, but both are fantastic.

 

 

 

How are Mac's music sound up against the all mighty Pioneer SX-1980?  

 

Great system BTW, super beautiful!

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The irony is that packing things right is fairly simple (though maybe a bit tedious for heavy items), but I have gotten a few items they packed that were an elaborate mix of bubble wrap and peanuts that got completely messed up in shipping.

Another time they just used 1" of rigid pink foam and plastic wrap and that was it. Obviously those speakers showed up damaged as well. The real kicker is that it was your birthday. Rough one.

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How are Mac's music sound up against the all mighty Pioneer SX-1980?  

 

Great system BTW, super beautiful!

That's a good question. Frankly, they are both very good. 

I don't know if I could tell them apart in a blind test.  If you think that the point of a good amp is to accurately amplify a signal, both are near perfect. You can just hear and feel the build quality. Bass is sharp and impactful, mids sound clear and good, and the highs are always clear and present. The mac might have a slight edge with human voices, but that is just splitting hairs. The 1980 is every bit as good as the Macs, though maybe the 1980 is a hair more clinical. The 1980 does have a micron more noise in it as well.

Both are blissful and would treat me fine as an end state type of rig. The 1980 is due for a complete restore in March, so maybe another listen will be in order then.

Honestly, I was so blown away by the MR-78 tuner, that any mac system using it will automatically be better than the 1980 if you like radio. Just wow. Wow. (That needed saying twice)


Edited by PhoenixG - 2/7/14 at 5:15am
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That's a good question. Frankly, they are both very good. 

I don't know if I could tell them apart in a blind test.  If you think that the point of a good amp is to accurately amplify a signal, both are near perfect. You can just hear and feel the build quality. Bass is sharp and impactful, mids sound clear and good, and the highs are always clear and present. The mac might have a slight edge with human voices, but that is just splitting hairs. The 1980 is every bit as good as the Macs, though maybe the 1980 is a hair more clinical. The 1980 does have a micron more noise in it as well.

Both are blissful and would treat me fine as an end state type of rig. The 1980 is due for a complete restore in March, so maybe another listen will be in order then.

Honestly, I was so blown away by the MR-80 tuner, that any mac system using it will automatically be better than the 1980 if you like radio. Just wow. Wow. (That needed saying twice)

 

You're awesome!!!

 

Thanks for the quick comparison.  I've always wanted to reach for a Mcintosh but people just wanting too much money for them, and I do know that they're worth every penny.  I've been blessed with my Sansui's though...

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Honestly, I was so blown away by the MR-78 tuner, that any mac system using it will automatically be better than the 1980 if you like radio. Just wow. Wow. (That needed saying twice)

 

That is one of the few tuners that would make me think about selling my modified Kenwood KT-7550 - though it sounds glorious too.  I almost don't use my CD player any more.  In fact - if I can ever get my hands on an MR78 I may want to keep both!

post #11677 of 16769
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Lol, all of this talk about the mr78 made think about calling the guy up in my area to get the one he's been trying to sell for months. He's now dropped the price down to 625.00. But for me, even that would be to much for a tuner given how much I listen to FM. But it would match my 2205 visually though lol. Heck I even passed on a marantz 10B in good condition, and those go for 2500-5000.00 on ebay. I guess someone got really lucky.

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I would buy another one for that price. They cost about $1k. What's wrong with it that it's stagnating?

But really. Can you send me the listing?

 

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Found it


Edited by PhoenixG - 2/7/14 at 9:43am
post #11679 of 16769
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The seller listed it in excellent condition with a wood case. The reason it's lasted so long is, most of the majority of people don't listen to FM that often, and most of the ones that do won't pay that much for any tuner(I'm among that group). The people who actually would are small in number overall. He would have a much better chance getting what he wants on ebay. But I've seen some go unsold on ebay at the 800.00 mark. But there are quiet a few on ebay now.

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Thats true about FM. Shame really, I just can't get a good enough signal no matter what aerial I try these days. Plus when you can get digital free on the internet.. But I must say that FM does sound better (based on memory!)  

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Even if one can get FM the ads have become intolerable, even on public radio...it is sad.

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We have a publicly supported full time Jazz station here in the Rochester NY area.  Very few ads and excellent sound quality & music all the time (http://www.jazz901.org/).   We also have North Coast Radio WJZR (Jazz & Blues) here too with good quality sound and very few commercials.  Jazz lovers here are very fortunate.   I spend most of my listening time with one of these two stations.

post #11683 of 16769

We have one Jazz station in the uk. It's terrible. I've not heard any proper jazz on it yet! Bloody commercial soul music... ha 

post #11684 of 16769

Bummer - Coltrane and the like is what we get - loving it!

post #11685 of 16769
Another week, another low-powered vintage receiver. This time it's a SX-626, my first Pioneer. It's warming up at this very moment.

This is also perhaps the cleanest piece of vintage gear I've had. It came in its original box, original bag, polishing cloth, the antenna bound with the original (and rotted) rubber band, a schematic, warranty cards, a brochure, and the manual. All pristine.



Out of sheer curiosity, what is a fair market price for such a unit in close to mint condition? I'm not considering selling it, but I am curious.
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