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Thank you sir. :biggrin: The cool thing about the whole ordeal was hangin' with Terry in his living room listening to sweet vintage gear and talking shop. The bad thing is now I've got a serious affection for a McIntosh. :o Can someone school me on the Mac's? I just don't know that much about them. The MC 225 I know is very rare...only about 3k made?? And sounds just wonderful. I like the smaller footprint and the very high quality caps used. 

 

Fleabay is too high on them though. Who wants to sell me one?

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Yeah, I've done a lot of research on them and can tell you from worst to best the one thing they all have in common is build quality. All of their tube amps are just wonderful and can't go wrong with either one. As far as solid state go, the early 70s are excellent. But are like pretty muich every other brand from the early 70s.... warm and  euphoric. But a different level of warm and euphoric from most brands. 

 

As you go from early seventies to late, the sound sig gets closer to neutral. But the sweet spot would be the range that has the auto transformers(output transformers for solid state amps). These are on another level from their early 70s solid state stuff and uses the same features and topology as their current gear. So one of these fully restored is pretty much on par with their modern stuff. But you really can't go wrong though because all of their amps were just built to a higher standard and I can whole heartedly say, I now see what all of the fuss is about. Sure there are many who don't care for them as with anything else. But I find my particular mac to be the perfect blend between musicality and technicality.

 

If go over to ak, you will find users who prefer even their modestly powered 55wpc receivers to totl beasts from pioneer, sansui, marantz and kenwood. I've never heard one for myself, but I can believe it based on how my 2205 sounds. Now I wouldn't mind scoring a good deal on  one of their lower powered integrated amps for the bedroom.


Edited by moodyrn - 1/16/14 at 4:47pm
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Thanks Moody...great info!! I think the I'll just keep my eye out for a Mac and keep them on my radar. 

 

On a bit of news for the strange...when I commented on the wonderfully sound of the AR-3a's Terry mentioned that his 95 year old mother also has a pair. Said that she listens to them every night on her Mac. :blink: 


Edited by MattTCG - 1/16/14 at 4:53pm
post #11464 of 13435
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Thanks Moody...great info!! I think the I'll just keep my eye out for a Mac and keep them on my radar. 

 

On a bit of news for the strange...when I commented on the wonderfully sound of the AR-3a's Terry mentioned that his 95 year old mother also has a pair. Said that she listens to them every night on her Mac. :blink: 

Her son takes good care of her!

post #11465 of 13435
So that's the reason she is 95 and jiving. Might have a look at McIntosh and see what can be found in Australia.
post #11466 of 13435
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Thank you sir. :biggrin: The cool thing about the whole ordeal was hangin' with Terry in his living room listening to sweet vintage gear and talking shop. The bad thing is now I've got a serious affection for a McIntosh. :o Can someone school me on the Mac's? I just don't know that much about them. The MC 225 I know is very rare...only about 3k made?? And sounds just wonderful. I like the smaller footprint and the very high quality caps used. 

 

Fleabay is too high on them though. Who wants to sell me one?

Theres a MC- 275 that's in Montreal 

on canuck audio mart $3,600.00 CAD

 

 

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I hate to admit it, but as an audiophile and electrical engineer, Roger Russell of mcintosh is one of my engineer hero's. I can't help but love most vintage (pre1993 when they got bought out) mcintosh equipment. I think the ones with the solid aluminum knobs are the absolute best, but it is impossible to go wrong. I have seen them put out on oscilloscopes and they are dead accurate amps. They have an almost industrial mindset when it comes to amp design. Also, with just with my ear, I love their speakers (still, pre 1993). I need to stop gushing here. Other companies make plenty of awesome products, but I have never had such consistency across models and designs where newer is actually usually better (rarely true in the audio world). Regarding speakers,  I love some of their stuff (esp from the late 70's to the mid/late 80's), but I truly think roger russell took over their speaker legacy after he went solo

Part of the whole vintage bug is that we try to find the rare gem that is truly fantastic. I like mcintosh's because they so often deliver on that. My sony str-6120 looks like it is about to get finished, and I plan on comparing it to a nice mcintosh setup. Both will be using mcintosh speakers as reference speakers..

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I'm not an EE, but I can't say how impressed I was with the build of the xr7 I have. The vintage Mac speakers get a bad rep because they weren't meant to be stand alone. They were designed to go with one of their analog room correction units. Without it, they are not hitting anywhere near their potential. And many people find their speakers in used condition without the mq unit.

The build quality is prototypical Macintosh. And they sound really great whether you're talking about vintage or newer speakers. Not quiet on the level on my heavily modded cornwalls, but I'll put them against any 5000-7000.00 set of speakers I've listened to.
post #11469 of 13435
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Originally Posted by moodyrn View Post

Yeah, I've done a lot of research on them and can tell you from worst to best the one thing they all have in common is build quality. All of their tube amps are just wonderful and can't go wrong with either one. As far as solid state go, the early 70s are excellent. But are like pretty muich every other brand from the early 70s.... warm and  euphoric. But a different level of warm and euphoric from most brands. 

As you go from early seventies to late, the sound sig gets closer to neutral. But the sweet spot would be the range that has the auto transformers(output transformers for solid state amps). These are on another level from their early 70s solid state stuff and uses the same features and topology as their current gear. So one of these fully restored is pretty much on par with their modern stuff. But you really can't go wrong though because all of their amps were just built to a higher standard and I can whole heartedly say, I now see what all of the fuss is about. Sure there are many who don't care for them as with anything else. But I find my particular mac to be the perfect blend between musicality and technicality.

If go over to ak, you will find users who prefer even their modestly powered 55wpc receivers to totl beasts from pioneer, sansui, marantz and kenwood. I've never heard one for myself, but I can believe it based on how my 2205 sounds. Now I wouldn't mind scoring a good deal on  one of their lower powered integrated amps for the bedroom.

Just curious - would you put the Mac1900 in the early 70's warm/euphonic category or closer to neutral? I know it spanned from '73-'78, so wasn't sure. McIntosh is new to me in terms of actually hearing one, but was lucky enough to happen into a Mac1900 last week. Haven't given it much listening time yet or compared it back to back with my other receivers,
post #11470 of 13435
Thread Starter 
Unfortunately I haven't listened to that one, so I really couldn't answer. There is a lot of impressions about over at ak though.
post #11471 of 13435

I don't suppose anyone has a pair of pre-amp/amp jumpers to fit my 1280? 

post #11472 of 13435
Sorry, can't help with that. Short term you can use any old patch cord though.
post #11473 of 13435
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Sorry, can't help with that. Short term you can use any old patch cord though.

 

Yea, that's what I'm using now. Just thought that someone might have some. 

 

thanks...

post #11474 of 13435
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I don't suppose anyone has a pair of pre-amp/amp jumpers to fit my 1280? 


I got you, I will mail them on Monday, just have to find them.

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I got you, I will mail them on Monday, just have to find them.

 

Sweet!! I owe you one for sure. Thanks...

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