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$720 for Beyerdynamic T1: is it a fraud?

post #1 of 38
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Hello Head-Fiers,

 

I won an auction of Beyerdynamic T1 on eBay today for $720... 

This is the item: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=110642637157&si=Okmp3NNOeMMKGSa3L%252FeoY7dk%252BLU%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_500wt_1156

 

The person who sells it have no previous feedbacks or history on eBay and he lives in Estonia... Is it safe to go ahead and pay him? Does it look like a fraud to you?

 

Many thanks...

 

Ian

post #2 of 38
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Originally Posted by HelloHell View Post

Hello Head-Fiers,

 

I won an auction of Beyerdynamic T1 on eBay today for $720... 

This is the item: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=110642637157&si=Okmp3NNOeMMKGSa3L%252FeoY7dk%252BLU%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_500wt_1156

 

The person who sells it have no previous feedbacks or history on eBay and he lives in Estonia... Is it safe to go ahead and pay him? Does it look like a fraud to you?

 

Many thanks...

 

Ian


it seems suspicious, no previous seller rating, pics aren't very clear and it appears the pics aren't taken by him, also, the price is way too good to be true

 

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://doctorhead.ru/&ei=RBRKTbDrD4OKlwfLx5UG&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCQQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Ddoctorhead.ru%26hl%3Den%26prmd%3Divns  

post #3 of 38

too good to be true pass

post #4 of 38

I saw that auction... It didn't look right. Price too low, doesn't seem to have a reserve price, photos are all generic, and description seems to be pulled from somewhere else. I asked the seller a question just to get a sense of how things might go. The second picture in the listing appears to be showing a Neutrik connector... so I asked about that, and I never got an answer.

 

Honestly, I think you probably shouldn't have bid if you didn't feel good about the seller. I'm not sure how none payment would be handled by eBay. Paypal supposedly covers you... but I'm sure there are lots of caveats.

post #5 of 38

all the pics are "borrowed"... not a good sign

post #6 of 38

you knowingly bid on an auction, not a buy it now, from a 0 feedback user and now are deciding to back out of your agreement to buy?  Shame on you, you should have asked this question before you agreed to bid at this price.  I had similar flake-outs when I was selling other equipment on ebay with extravagant excuses for each.  Really made me think twice about listing again on ebay, as it became a massive headache.

 

as long as you take basic precautions (pay through paypal and you basically have the seller at your mercy should things go awry -- shipping problems are the fault of the seller, and he needs to be the one providing all insurance/etc) ebay is a buyer's market.  Used items can go for lower than the going rate, and further communication should make it obvious whether this person is legit or is trying to play something on you.  If you don't feel like checking, well, at least highest bidder #2 gets an even better deal.

post #7 of 38
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Originally Posted by MuuMuu View Post

you knowingly bid on an auction, not a buy it now, from a 0 feedback user and now are deciding to back out of your agreement to buy?  Shame on you, you should have asked this question before you agreed to bid at this price.  I had similar flake-outs when I was selling other equipment on ebay with extravagant excuses for each.  Really made me think twice about listing again on ebay, as it became a massive headache.

 

as long as you take basic precautions (pay through paypal and you basically have the seller at your mercy should things go awry -- shipping problems are the fault of the seller, and he needs to be the one providing all insurance/etc) ebay is a buyer's market.  Used items can go for lower than the going rate, and further communication should make it obvious whether this person is legit or is trying to play something on you.  If you don't feel like checking, well, at least highest bidder #2 gets an even better deal.



the problem is, everything here is very suspicious, this doesn't seem like a legitimate deal. you're telling him to knowingly and willingly go through what appears to be case that might end up as a scam at his own cost? paypal isn't 100% scam proof by the way

post #8 of 38

You should not have bid on this in the first place there are too many red flags, price, pictures, location and lack of feedback. Don't go through with the deal, he looks and smells like a scammer, and you, you just look dumb.

post #9 of 38

You should try contacting eBay and asking about what the correct procedure is for your situation. If you just don't pay, that will have some sort of consequence on your account. I don't know if eBay will be able to do anything for you though, because, as I understand it, a winning bid is suppose to be a contract to purchase. Either way, it will be better to deal with it upfront instead of paying then trying to get your money back after.

post #10 of 38
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Originally Posted by fatcat28037 View Post

You should not have bid on this in the first place there are too many red flags, price, pictures, location and lack of feedback. Don't go through with the deal, he looks and smells like a scammer, and you, you just look dumb.


Wise words, be cautious. 

post #11 of 38

Since it's "covered by Ebay" they should refund you if the seller doesn't ship the item or tries to scam you. However, it takes a while before ebay refunds you. I would contact ebay and let them know your concerns before paying.

post #12 of 38
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Originally Posted by fatcat28037 View Post

You should not have bid on this in the first place there are too many red flags, price, pictures, location and lack of feedback. Don't go through with the deal, he looks and smells like a scammer, and you, you just look dumb.



 



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Originally Posted by fatcat28037 View Post

You should not have bid on this in the first place there are too many red flags, price, pictures, location and lack of feedback. Don't go through with the deal, he looks and smells like a scammer, and you, you just look dumb.


Wise words, be cautious. 

frank too
 

post #13 of 38

 

I like-wise sent the seller questions on February 1st inquiring as to whether there were any functional issues with the phones, scratches or marks, and if he was the original buyer with original packing materials. Never got a response nor were my questions posted with associated answers. With zero feedback I backed off any interest after he didn't respond. It felt like too much risk and it smelled bad. Be very careful of your timing should you pay him and have a problem. You have a certain window to file a claim and I expect transit time is going to eat away at that. I would call ebay/PayPal and go over your protections. If he is a scammer and you don't pay I don't expect him to pursue it although he will be liable to ebay for their fees. But you like-wise may be obligated to ebay. Unless you get ebay permission not to pay you are obligated to complete the auction so I would talk to ebay first. Have you contacted the seller and received a response? They will want you to do that first. If you don't hear from him within a specified period of time, you are building a case that can work in your favor. They may suggest you escalate the claim. I suspect that ebay will want you to pay first and file a claim if you don't receive the phones. I recently fell for a scam for a HD memory card whose price was too good to be true. It was. I never received the card, and after following the PayPal protection plan guidelines, they reviewed my case and I was fully refunded. Maybe I sound like a broken record but do call them and ask them how to proceed.

 

post #14 of 38

I would like to know the outcome of this transaction..keep us posted.

post #15 of 38

Why did you bid on this in the first place if it's completely shady? Aren't you obligated to pay after you've won? Otherwise you've wasted his time.

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