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post #106 of 230
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Originally Posted by GamerOne View Post

I'm seriously considering changing my K701's for a pair of Q701's since they seem to improve upon my biggest complaint about the K701's, namely the lack of warmth! Not only have I read it from several people here, but I also read a review from the swedish magazine "Ljud & Bild" and they also claim that the Q701's are warmer and fuller-sounding than the K701's.

The detachable cable is also a nice plus normal_smile%20.gif 

The downside is however that they're still using that **** headband from hell mad.gif



One idea is to see if you can demo them and compare them side by side in the store. This is probably not possible. Some stores have a good return policy and will let you return them.

I think everyone here would be interested in knowing if there is a difference for you. Some may not be able to tell them apart, but I think it's quite easy.

 

I only had the K702 though, but did have the K701 about 5 years ago.

 

Too bad there isn't an online link for that magazine review. It'd be nice to read it.

 

 

post #107 of 230
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One idea is to see if you can demo them and compare them side by side in the store. This is probably not possible. Some stores have a good return policy and will let you return them.

I think everyone here would be interested in knowing if there is a difference for you. Some may not be able to tell them apart, but I think it's quite easy.

 

I only had the K702 though, but did have the K701 about 5 years ago.

 

Too bad there isn't an online link for that magazine review. It'd be nice to read it.

 

 



Well, there is actually tongue_smile.gif Right here: http://www.bildochljud.se/test/akg-q701 Its in swedish though tongue_smile.gif

 

post #108 of 230

For what it's worth - Tyl thinks the 701/702/Q701 are the same phone. Maybe a slight difference in bass response as a result of the Q graphic blocking more of the open back. 

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/akg-quincy-jones-q701-sound-and-measurements

 

AKG_Q701_graph_q701k701frcompare.jpg

post #109 of 230
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Well, there is actually tongue_smile.gif Right here: http://www.bildochljud.se/test/akg-q701 Its in swedish though tongue_smile.gif

 



Here's a translation for anyone that's bored:

 

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bildochljud.se%2Ftest%2Fakg-q701

post #110 of 230


Pretty much identical to my impressions.

Too bad they didn't compare the soundstage between both of them. The K702 has this really goofy soundstage and often makes vocals sounds a bit more distant than they should be. I wonder how you fix this? Whatever AKG did does the trick. The Q701 I have never has this artificially huge soundstage on any recording.

 

I know it depends on the recording to get the vocals right, but sometimes the K701/K702 still didn't always seem as accurate as it could be.

post #111 of 230
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Originally Posted by GamerOne View Post

I'm seriously considering changing my K701's for a pair of Q701's since they seem to improve upon my biggest complaint about the K701's, namely the lack of warmth! Not only have I read it from several people here, but I also read a review from the swedish magazine "Ljud & Bild" and they also claim that the Q701's are warmer and fuller-sounding than the K701's.

The detachable cable is also a nice plus normal_smile%20.gif 

The downside is however that they're still using that **** headband from hell mad.gif

Dude is right on...I had the K701s and my they just never fit right...my head hurt after wearing them...probably why I liked the HD600s better...
 

 

post #112 of 230

I think I discovered something that might change the sound on the Q701, right behind the cap with the Q logo on it, there are two foam pads... Which I tried to find pics on google and videos on youtube, these do not appear to be present on the K701s.... So more damping could contribute to the sound differences?

 

The pic shows the two different sides of the foam pads:

 

 

DSC_0042.jpg

 

post #113 of 230

Yes, all changes could be hearable ... tuning with different damping is a good way to get a good sounding

 

Today I have an AKG K1000 to entertain ... if I put my hands in the near of the gap  between my auricle and the headphone-driver, I distinguish the difference

post #114 of 230
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Originally Posted by nsx280ps View Post

I think I discovered something that might change the sound on the Q701, right behind the cap with the Q logo on it, there are two foam pads... Which I tried to find pics on google and videos on youtube, these do not appear to be present on the K701s.... So more damping could contribute to the sound differences?

 

The pic shows the two different sides of the foam pads:

 

 

DSC_0042.jpg

 



Weird,  somewhere on the Q701 thread someone posted a link to the service manuals for K702 and Q701.

The only difference between the two parts lists was something called a Cardan piece.    

When I get some time I'll see if I can link to that link for you.

 

But I agree, damping sure will change the sound!

post #115 of 230

http://www.akg.com/site/powerslave,id,7,nodeid,7,_language,EN,cat,11.html

post #116 of 230

just checked the service manual, these foam pads dont seem to be on either the K701 or Q701 manuals... Weird.. Not sure why they would not account for that part on the Q701 manual

 

The foam pads basically sit right between part 8 and 9 of the Q701 manual

http://www.akg.com/mediendatenbank2/psfile/datei/34/Q7014ccfcf894bb82.pdf

post #117 of 230

Check out the cardan piece.

post #118 of 230

The cardan piece (No. 15 in the referenced PDF) is part of the driver housing, not the foam disks. 

post #119 of 230

 

I'm only pointing out that the Cardan piece assembly is different on the K (the K has 1) than on the Q  (the Q has 2).

This could account for the difference in sound....................or maybe not. It's only a theory of mine.

post #120 of 230

K701 K702 and Q701 are the same phones!

 

but there is one huge difference which changes the sound slightly!

Under the Back-Grill (The one with the Q on it) is a piece of foam only found on the Q701... which basically makes them "semi-open" (hush, don't spread the word :P )

 

If you want to upgrade from K70X to Q701, just get this part, this or some similar foam, and insert it. DONE!

Triva to close this post. ->Same part can be found on the K601.

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