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Ah great...and here I thought I had finally found my ideal audiophile portable.  If I enjoy good, fast, accurate bass, warm sound, wide soundstage, and no piercing treble in a headphone that won't look ridiculous in public....what should I be looking at? I understand the MS400's are prone to making people's "ear sweat"....definitely want to avoid that.



 




I'm basically looking for the same thing you're looking for. I'm also a little worried about the ms400s seal since they're somewhere between a supra and circum depending how big or small your ears are. There's got to be a place where I can audition them.
post #122 of 187

Crossfades dropped to $130 on amazon. Couldn't pass up the deal. I'll let you know how they are once I get them.

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I hate to promote something not reviewed by joker yet, but i just got to listen to the ms400 again and compared it with the denon d1100 and i am extremely happy I stuck with the denon.  The sound quality and clarity are equals for nearly half the price with a much better stage.  I also just got to amp them with some new bravo amp with an eq on it, the sound was astonishing.  Someone for the love of all things holy send joker the D1100 :P

 

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A question to B&W P5 owners:

Is the replaceable cable just an 1/8 inch TRS to 1/8 inch TRS cable with a mic and botton? If my P5's cable break, can I just replace it with an 1/8 inch TRS - 1/8 inch TRS?

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A question to B&W P5 owners:

Is the replaceable cable just an 1/8 inch TRS to 1/8 inch TRS cable with a mic and botton? If my P5's cable break, can I just replace it with an 1/8 inch TRS - 1/8 inch TRS?


It's 2.5mm to 3.5mm.

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A question to B&W P5 owners:

Is the replaceable cable just an 1/8 inch TRS to 1/8 inch TRS cable with a mic and botton? If my P5's cable break, can I just replace it with an 1/8 inch TRS - 1/8 inch TRS?


No, you can't. The headphone end of the cord has to be a slim 2.5mm (micro) connector (so even locking 2.5mm connectors like the Senn HD570/590 and Shure 840 cords would probably be a bit too thick)

 


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[...] the cord is detachable, with the 2.5mm connector hidden under the (magnetically-attached) left earpad. There is also a spare (iPhone) cable included with the P5s, though additional replacement cables can only be purchased from B&W as neither the Beats Solo nor V-Moda Crossfade cords will work in their stead.
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I hate to promote something not reviewed by joker yet, but i just got to listen to the ms400 again and compared it with the denon d1100 and i am extremely happy I stuck with the denon.  The sound quality and clarity are equals for nearly half the price with a much better stage.  I also just got to amp them with some new bravo amp with an eq on it, the sound was astonishing.

 



I'm interested... How much bigger/how portable are they, and are they as comfortable?

 

Also I saw that you're selling them now, why is that?

post #128 of 187

They are a little bigger than the phiatons, the headband has a little wider grip on you but they are a 8/10 in comfort.  Very light, clamp factor is low so its great for hours of listening, the earpads are not made of real leather but they are still soft.  The cup size might be a tad bigger on the denon compared to the phiaton, both are very small.  

 

Im selling it because I am a reviewer and enjoy the experience.  I am strongly considering not selling them, as they are just loads of fun to listen to and with proper amping sound simply incredible.  Scale up factor is immense.  What the ms400 lacks, the D1100 has plenty of.  My problem is that i dont have a real amp anymore, and I am looking for a portable set that is even smaller than this ( something like the esw9 ) that is little less bassy.  With proper EQ, the D1100 is gold, with a half decent amp, its the best portable I've ever used.

 

I dont want to take the ms400s thunder away, but the denon seems like the better choice to me.  I think after you mentioned I was selling it, I got kind of upset with myself that I wanted to sell it.  I really want to keep them.  I recently plugged them into a friends MKII and my face went from -_-  to O.o in a second

 

a pic for size comparison with a sansa clip.  They are definitely small, obviously not as small as the ESW9 or es7 or something like that, but the ms400 and the denon are close to the same size but the denons pads are fully circumaurial, but not as soft as the phiaton.  The phiaton has the better headband, I wish denon would have designed their band like that, simple half circle.  Outside of that, I have no gripes outside of some tinny snappy highs but with proper EQ that vanished and becomes very nice.

 

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post #129 of 187
Hey swbf2cheater how well do the denons isolate in a portable situation such as on buses and trains? Do you think the ms400s are better when it comes to that? Judging by your description of the denons I think I would love them sound wise. smily_headphones1.gif
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A question to B&W P5 owners:

Is the replaceable cable just an 1/8 inch TRS to 1/8 inch TRS cable with a mic and botton? If my P5's cable break, can I just replace it with an 1/8 inch TRS - 1/8 inch TRS?


No, you can't. The headphone end of the cord has to be a slim 2.5mm (micro) connector (so even locking 2.5mm connectors like the Senn HD570/590 and Shure 840 cords would probably be a bit too thick)

 


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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

[...] the cord is detachable, with the 2.5mm connector hidden under the (magnetically-attached) left earpad. There is also a spare (iPhone) cable included with the P5s, though additional replacement cables can only be purchased from B&W as neither the Beats Solo nor V-Moda Crossfade cords will work in their stead.


Sorry, I didn't saw that you wrote about the cord too. So a 2.5mm to 3.5mm cable can be used as the replacement, no? I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work, except that the cable is too thick or the plug that goes in the headphone is too big but I can find small, thin cables.

Anyways, I'm asking about this is because it would be great if I could get different length of cables attached to the P5.

post #131 of 187

Totally, a great read!regular_smile%20.gif

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I hate to promote something not reviewed by joker yet, but i just got to listen to the ms400 again and compared it with the denon d1100 and i am extremely happy I stuck with the denon.  The sound quality and clarity are equals for nearly half the price with a much better stage.  I also just got to amp them with some new bravo amp with an eq on it, the sound was astonishing.

 



I'm interested... How much bigger/how portable are they, and are they as comfortable?

 

Also I saw that you're selling them now, why is that?


Worth keeping in mind is that swbf2cheater is also *slightly* ocd about trying out new gear and goes through headphones faster than most of us change socks tongue.gif

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Originally Posted by swbf2cheater View Post

I hate to promote something not reviewed by joker yet, but i just got to listen to the ms400 again and compared it with the denon d1100 and i am extremely happy I stuck with the denon.  The sound quality and clarity are equals for nearly half the price with a much better stage.  I also just got to amp them with some new bravo amp with an eq on it, the sound was astonishing.

 



I'm interested... How much bigger/how portable are they, and are they as comfortable?

 

Also I saw that you're selling them now, why is that?


Worth keeping in mind is that swbf2cheater is also *extremely* ocd about trying out new gear and goes through headphones faster than most of us change socks tongue.gif

fixed ;)
 

post #134 of 187

Haha, I was only being polite cool.gif

 

I have accepted the fact that I do in fact enjoy the journey more than the actual destination, and that most of my conceived notions of "better" are mostly due to changes in sound signature.

post #135 of 187

I like that line "enjoying the journey more than the destination" Im going to steal that from you heh.

 

Until recently, it was all about just experiencing all the best sets I could find or get my hands on.  The experience was pretty amazing as each set I have owned, spoke of or reviewed sounded different.  Secretly, it was all really for research purposes :)  

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