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post #91 of 505

iTunes is probably fine if you have an SSD drive. Otherwise, with a regular hard drive, there are many playback software options that use memory mode on OS X. I use Decibel, but I think you have to pay for it now.

post #92 of 505
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USB to S/PDIF, huh? Anyone got a link to good quality converters? Also, is iTunes a good program to use sound quality wise?


 

M2Tech Hiface Evo, Audiophilleo 1, Empirical Audio Offramp, Wavelength Audio Wavelink are your best bets (prices range from $500 to over $1000). I'm using the Evo myself. THe new MF V-Link (only goes up to 96k) might be a good budget choice ($169), but it is new and I have not heard one.

 

For playback software, try Audirvana (free open source). I have ALL of the Mac playback apps, and at the moment, I like Audirvana the best. There is a bunch of OS X optimizations you can also do, but they are mostly applicable to a dedicated music server since many will reduce functionality for a general purpose computer.

 

BTW, iTunes sucks as far as sound quality compared to the special purpose audiophile software IMHO.

 

edited to add links


Edited by khollister - 3/11/11 at 3:34pm
post #93 of 505
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iTunes is probably fine if you have an SSD drive. Otherwise, with a regular hard drive, there are many playback software options that use memory mode on OS X. I use Decibel, but I think you have to pay for it now.



Nope - I have a dedicated 2010 Mac Mini music server with an internal SSD and OS X highly modified (stuff turned off like Spotlight, Time Machine, disk journaling, etc) and iTunes still sounds poor compared to some of the other software. It also does not automatically switch sample rates in your DAC to match the audio track - it uses poor quality Quicktime SRC code. 

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What?

 

Pretty sure it\s the other way around.

 

The toslink out of the Mac is a VERY high jitter connection. My experience with the Rega is that the direct USB connect is better with the caveat that it only does 16/44. I was using high end glass mini-toslink cable and a WireWorld Starlight USB cable as well. Using a cheap plastic toslink cable with a mini-toslink adapter will be even worse.

 

Coax S/PDIF (either BNC or RCA) is your friend at this point unless you have a high end firewire DAC or one of a couple specific async USB DAC's (Wavelength or maybe the W4S DAC-2).
 

 

post #95 of 505

Interesting regarding the poor performance iTunes. That's what I thought too until another audiophile told me he heard no difference between players with his SSD drive. Just goes to show you can only trust your own ears.

post #96 of 505

I haven't heard some of the better USB inputs such as the M2Tech Young or the Ayre. I've tried the inputs on the iDecco and Chord QBD dac, and it's quite grainy and unrefined when you compare it to a USB converter. It seems as though from reading all of the reviews, the Rega benefits from going the USB converter route also. The positive feedback reviewer had his Rega performing almost as well as his debussy by going this route.

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The toslink out of the Mac is a VERY high jitter connection. My experience with the Rega is that the direct USB connect is better with the caveat that it only does 16/44. I was using high end glass mini-toslink cable and a WireWorld Starlight USB cable as well. Using a cheap plastic toslink cable with a mini-toslink adapter will be even worse.

 

Coax S/PDIF (either BNC or RCA) is your friend at this point unless you have a high end firewire DAC or one of a couple specific async USB DAC's (Wavelength or maybe the W4S DAC-2).
 

 


 

I did not realize.

 

I use optical with both my comp and ps3, and have never experienced jitter with it. blink.gif

post #98 of 505

Alright, I think I'll probably end up getting one of these.

 

Hopefully that should help me get the most out of the Rega.

post #99 of 505
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Alright, I think I'll probably end up getting one of these.

 

Hopefully that should help me get the most out of the Rega.

 

The "dongle" Hiface you linked to is sonically inferior to the more expensive Hiface Evo

 

http://www.wickeddigital.com.au/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=joomlaplates.tpl&product_id=735&category_id=70&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53

 

If you are price limited, I might consider the new Musical Fidelity V-Link over the dongle Hiface. 
 

There is a chap on another forum I frequent that is having trouble getting Audirvana to work with a dongle Hiface and his Levinson DAC. My Evo works flawlessly with my Rega using Audirvana. Not sure what might be going on, but FYI.

 

I also strongly recommend the Black Cat Veloce S/PDIF cable, although I'm not sure if he ships to Oz. It is quite good and reasonable in cost compared to a lot of the stuff out there.

 


Edited by khollister - 3/12/11 at 7:49am
post #100 of 505

Finally, got one! Took a lot of travelling since it probably was the only one for sale in this country.

First impressions: it was more then worth it!

Soundstage is impressive cold out of the box, now I'll give us both some time to warm up and relax ;-)

 

post #101 of 505
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Finally, got one! Took a lot of travelling since it probably was the only one for sale in this country.

First impressions: it was more then worth it!

Soundstage is impressive cold out of the box, now I'll give us both some time to warm up and relax ;-)

 


Great! Give it about 72 hours or so and it will sound much better.

 

post #102 of 505
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If you are price limited, I might consider the new Musical Fidelity V-Link over the dongle Hiface. 

 

I agree, I would rather pick up the V-Link than the Hiface.

post #103 of 505
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Originally Posted by khollister View Post



 

The "dongle" Hiface you linked to is sonically inferior to the more expensive Hiface Evo

 

http://www.wickeddigital.com.au/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=joomlaplates.tpl&product_id=735&category_id=70&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53

 

If you are price limited, I might consider the new Musical Fidelity V-Link over the dongle Hiface. 
 

There is a chap on another forum I frequent that is having trouble getting Audirvana to work with a dongle Hiface and his Levinson DAC. My Evo works flawlessly with my Rega using Audirvana. Not sure what might be going on, but FYI.

 

I also strongly recommend the Black Cat Veloce S/PDIF cable, although I'm not sure if he ships to Oz. It is quite good and reasonable in cost compared to a lot of the stuff out there.

 

 

Hmmm, the V-Link sounds good. I might get that.
 

 

post #104 of 505
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Great! Give it about 72 hours or so and it will sound much better.

 


Will do, it is on the radio now.
I'll post some impressions then.

Another very nice digital cable is the Oyaide 510.
I own it and it gives a balanced sound in my system, between the slightly dull Digiflex and the sharpsounding Bolder. I wish I could understand why digital cables sound so different, but they do.


Edit: about the USB spdif thing. You could also use a Squeezebox Touch. Very good digital outs, nice screen, touch or remote controlled.
Edited by dura - 3/13/11 at 1:19pm
post #105 of 505

I think I'll be picking up the Rega. Satin Silver or Black? I think silver sounds better.  etysmile.gif

 

I have a good point of reference with a Chord dac that is much more expensive, so this will be interesting.

 

I will be using it with a USB converter, and definitely with an aftermarket power cord.

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