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Audio-GD NFB-1ES or NFB-1WM for HD800+Violectric HPA V200?

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Hi which DAC should i choose?

NFB-1ES Sabre32 ES9018 is neutral

or

NFB-1WM Dual WM8741 is warm

 

HD800 are neutral

HPA V200 is warm

 

I dont have amp yet so i dont know how exactly it sounds but i want to get entertaining/musical sound in the end

I think that DAC should be clean, neutral and AMP need to do the whole coloration but maybe its diffrent.

So in simple what DAC should i choose to get musical sound.

post #2 of 9

My rule of thumb is to keep the DAC as neutral as possible. then any coloration (if needed) is done on the downstream components. Just my $0.02

post #3 of 9

You can try sending a PM to vrln and ask for his opinion. He once had the Ref7, HD800 and Violectric HPA V200 setup. He later changed the amp to Phoenix, then sold the HD800.

 

I have the NFB-1 ES version. While it is a very revealing DAC and very good instrument seperation, its soundstage is "normal size" (unlike the slightly expanded sound stage of REF7/DSP5). While it is good enough for speaker setup, one may find it a little bit congested with headphones. I think you can also send Kingwa email asking for the soundstage difference between the ES and WM version of NFB-1

 

I do not find the NFB-1ES treble intruding with my SA3000 and A1 clone amp (RCA connection to the NFB-1). But then I do not have the HD800 so I can't speak for sure.

post #4 of 9

 

I have been trying to choose between the NFB-1 ES and WM. I emailed Kingwa and he said both are neutral and that the WM is closer to the Reference series DACs than the ES. I am going with the WM.
post #5 of 9

did any of you get the nfb-1? 

 

I just picked one up and its notibly better than my older DACs with some music but I'm still not sure it was worth it.  I haven't heard too many direct opinions about the nfb-1 anywhere.

post #6 of 9

I got the WM version.

 

I have several comments on it one big issue so far.  It will will 24/176 files off my laptop over optical but it wont play them from my OPPO over optical or coax.  Anyone else having issues with hi-res?


Edited by tme110 - 5/20/11 at 4:37pm
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Hi! I just sold my DAC-19DF a few days ago.

I don't know which one is better for me, NFB-1 WM or NFB-1 ES

I will connect the DAC with my TASCAM CDP and Burson HA160. The headphone I have is Denon D7000.

I listen to Symphonies for most of the time.

 

Any suggestions or comments are welcome. Thanks alot!


Edited by SaiSai - 5/26/11 at 6:33am
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I would think the WM would be better with the D7000 (I have the NFB-12 with D7000) as it warms the midrange a touch and mellows the very slight edge the D7000 has in the upper mids/highs. Then again, I think the 1704 in my Ref-8 makes the D7000 sing. I don't think either DAC will sound significantly different from your DAC19 IMO. If you want increased SQ, go for the NFB-8.

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Thanks! bigsmile_face.gif

Now waiting for reply from Kingwa for pricing.

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Originally Posted by tim3320070 View Post

I would think the WM would be better with the D7000 (I have the NFB-12 with D7000) as it warms the midrange a touch and mellows the very slight edge the D7000 has in the upper mids/highs. Then again, I think the 1704 in my Ref-8 makes the D7000 sing. I don't think either DAC will sound significantly different from your DAC19 IMO. If you want increased SQ, go for the NFB-8.



 

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