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post #46 of 55
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I'm liking the D6 that is recommended. It is small, portable, and comes with a pouch. Is there anything that can compete to this price? Also is there a site where I can get a good deal on this?

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Try looking into the iBasso D6 if you haven't already. I just purchased one a few days ago after debating for a few weeks on this ~$200 price range amp/dac solution of E7/E9 vs. Fubar III vs. iBasso D4. There's a lot of good things being said about the D6 right now on these forums, which I've also confirmed through several PMs with a couple of well-known forum members. It's another $100 over the E7/E9 combo, but its an amp/dac in a very small, portable unit, very much worth its price tag in every way. There's several modifications you can do to it as well.
 

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Yes I see that. The E7 will be updated too, I still haven't made my choice yet, and I want an amp now.

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So the E9 is here to stay and won't be updated for a while right? I think it came out last year I'm not too sure.


FiiO has plans to flesh out their product line up with more products, but the E9 was just released back in October/November of 2010 so I strongly doubt that it will get replaced anytime soon. The E3 and E5 has been on the market for quite a while now. 

 

Jack

 


 
post #47 of 55

Yes, correct. The D6 is completely portable, but can also be used as a "full-sized" desktop amp/dac just like the docked E7 on E9 without the need for connecting 2 units. If anything, the D6 saves you some space over the E7/E9, while still retaining all of the latter's important functions.

 

The only thing I don't know is the sound quality of the E7/E9 versus the D6. Not too many reviews have been made on the D6 yet since its a very new product, but I'm pretty sure the DAC in the D6 beats the DAC in the E7. Just look at the specifications -- it can also do 24bit/92kHz. You're getting more than it appears with the D6 -- bigger is not always better in this case. Furthermore you can modify the D6's opamps, which you cannot do in the E7/E9 (potentially making the sound quality even that much better). Worth an extra $75? Quite possibly, in my opinion.
 

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The iBasso D6 is a portable amp, I looked at one before I got my E7/E9 but the FiiO gives me both a portable and a full size in one package and it was $75 cheaper.

post #48 of 55

Regarding the D6 vs. e7/e9 comparison, wouldn't the e9 provide much more power since it is a dedicated desktop headphone amp as opposed to the D6 being a portable combo? I was thinking about the rather expensive high end portable amp headstage arrow HE but I was under the impression a dedicated headphone desktop amp would be much more effective for less (obviously loosing the advantage of portability).

post #49 of 55
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I'm curious to this as well. Im just looking for my amp recommendation that is nore more than $300, but I assume $200~ is a safe amount.

 

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Regarding the D6 vs. e7/e9 comparison, wouldn't the e9 provide much more power since it is a dedicated desktop headphone amp as opposed to the D6 being a portable combo? I was thinking about the rather expensive high end portable amp headstage arrow HE but I was under the impression a dedicated headphone desktop amp would be much more effective for less (obviously loosing the advantage of portability).

post #50 of 55

First I want to apologize for being slightly biased in my previous post: the E7 by no means has a bad DAC. In fact, the difference between the DAC in the D6 and E7 is is that the former has two Wolfson WM8740 D/A chips, not just 1 like the latter. So I feel kinda dumb for drawing the conclusion that the D6 must be better in that regard. They're both good. And considering the E7's price, you can't really go wrong.

 

As far as the power output, yes the E9 does have a pre-amp and therefore I presume is going to be able to go louder than the D6 ever will. The D6 however is no slouch either and puts out a lot  of juice, especially on battery power (the most of any portable amp to date). Now, I'm not good at math, so take this with a grain of salt (I'm merely comparing numbers here):

 

E9 Output power: 1W (16Ω); 80mW (600Ω) with a line out of 2.0V rms, with a pre out of 0-2V rms

 

D6 Output power: Up to 650mW+650mW (1.3W) into 32Ω, with a line output of 1.5V rms with a recommended impedance of 8~300Ω

 

Again, I don't even know if these are the right numbers to be comparing, but yeah. The D6 is not weak by any means and will drive almost any headphone it seems to me.

 

My decision between the E7/E9 and D6 came down to a couple of factors. One, I just didn't want to deal with two things -- I wanted one small, simple unit on my desk that didn't take up much space. Two, I wanted to be able to have the option of swapping opamps to increase my amp's sound and potential. The D6 did it for me in those two things. Three, I'm getting the HD600s, and from what I've heard, the D6 is great for 650s and 600s alike.

post #51 of 55
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Which would you go with then considering my budget?

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First I want to apologize for being slightly biased in my previous post: the E7 by no means has a bad DAC. In fact, the difference between the DAC in the D6 and E7 is is that the former has two Wolfson WM8740 D/A chips, not just 1 like the latter. So I feel kinda dumb for drawing the conclusion that the D6 must be better in that regard. They're both good. And considering the E7's price, you can't really go wrong.

 

As far as the power output, yes the E9 does have a pre-amp and therefore I presume is going to be able to go louder than the D6 ever will. The D6 however is no slouch either and puts out a lot  of juice, especially on battery power (the most of any portable amp to date). Now, I'm not good at math, so take this with a grain of salt (I'm merely comparing numbers here):

 

E9 Output power: 1W (16Ω); 80mW (600Ω) with a line out of 2.0V rms, with a pre out of 0-2V rms

 

D6 Output power: Up to 650mW+650mW (1.3W) into 32Ω, with a line output of 1.5V rms with a recommended impedance of 8~300Ω

 

Again, I don't even know if these are the right numbers to be comparing, but yeah. The D6 is not weak by any means and will drive almost any headphone it seems to me.

 

My decision between the E7/E9 and D6 came down to a couple of factors. One, I just didn't want to deal with two things -- I wanted one small, simple unit on my desk that didn't take up much space. Two, I wanted to be able to have the option of swapping opamps to increase my amp's sound and potential. The D6 did it for me in those two things. Three, I'm getting the HD600s, and from what I've heard, the D6 is great for 650s and 600s alike.

post #52 of 55

Tough call! Not sure, to be honest. For you, you should just be honest with yourself and what you need. Focusing on the portability aspect alone since you said that was important when you visit your dad, the D6 should beat the E7 hands down. Is it worth the extra ~$225 (after taxes and shipping)? Holy moly I sure hope it is, otherwise I just wasted a lot of money for nothing! eek.gif

post #53 of 55
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Well I need an amp as well. So I would get the e9 with the e7 if i were to go through that. Someone made the recommendation of the mx1 and audio gd sparrow.
 

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Tough call! Not sure, to be honest. For you, you should just be honest with yourself and what you need. Focusing on the portability aspect alone since you said that was important when you visit your dad, the D6 should beat the E7 hands down. Is it worth the extra ~$225 (after taxes and shipping)? Holy moly I sure hope it is, otherwise I just wasted a lot of money for nothing! eek.gif

post #54 of 55
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Which would you go with then considering my budget?

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First I want to apologize for being slightly biased in my previous post: the E7 by no means has a bad DAC. In fact, the difference between the DAC in the D6 and E7 is is that the former has two Wolfson WM8740 D/A chips, not just 1 like the latter. So I feel kinda dumb for drawing the conclusion that the D6 must be better in that regard. They're both good. And considering the E7's price, you can't really go wrong.

 

As far as the power output, yes the E9 does have a pre-amp and therefore I presume is going to be able to go louder than the D6 ever will. The D6 however is no slouch either and puts out a lot  of juice, especially on battery power (the most of any portable amp to date). Now, I'm not good at math, so take this with a grain of salt (I'm merely comparing numbers here):

 

E9 Output power: 1W (16Ω); 80mW (600Ω) with a line out of 2.0V rms, with a pre out of 0-2V rms

 

D6 Output power: Up to 650mW+650mW (1.3W) into 32Ω, with a line output of 1.5V rms with a recommended impedance of 8~300Ω

 

Again, I don't even know if these are the right numbers to be comparing, but yeah. The D6 is not weak by any means and will drive almost any headphone it seems to me.

 

My decision between the E7/E9 and D6 came down to a couple of factors. One, I just didn't want to deal with two things -- I wanted one small, simple unit on my desk that didn't take up much space. Two, I wanted to be able to have the option of swapping opamps to increase my amp's sound and potential. The D6 did it for me in those two things. Three, I'm getting the HD600s, and from what I've heard, the D6 is great for 650s and 600s alike.




Considering that the k702s are on your want list and they require tons of power, I would recommend the e7/e9.
post #55 of 55
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I think my next pair I want are the Denon d2000's but yes eventually I may want the AKG's. Since I can't find anything in the same price range that seem to beat this combo I think I will just order this later today.

edit: my e7+e9 has been ordered.
 

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Which would you go with then considering my budget?


 


Considering that the k702s are on your want list and they require tons of power, I would recommend the e7/e9.
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