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post #4231 of 5549
2/22/12 at 8:47am
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Check on ebay.
There are tons of them
 



 


 

Which 990's do you have exactly ?
Pro or Premium and what is their impedance ?

 

 

 

 

 

I Just may go with 770 pro 80 ohms considering that they will probably require the amp the least and also save me 50$ to spend on an amp maybe ?
Any suggestion for which amp to choose for 770 pro's so that i can control the bass when in game and not when am listening to music 


I have the DT990 Pro (250 Ohm).

 

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Gear mentioned in this thread:

Sony MDR-XB700 50mm XB Diaphragm Driver Extra Bass Headphones
Koss UR40 Collapsible Over-Ear Headphones
Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro-80 Closed Studio Headphones
post #4232 of 5549
2/22/12 at 9:02am
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If you're on PC you should be able to EQ without an amp in your sound drivers. If it's console you'll have to ask all the console guys here what they recommend for an amp with EQ.



Am on the PC so i should be good
Which is your preferred software to eQ ?

Also is it true that the 250 ohm versions are easier to amp than the 80 amp versions ?


Edited by Mysterious - 2/22/12 at 9:03am
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post #4233 of 5549
2/22/12 at 9:38am
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Am on the PC so i should be good
Which is your preferred software to eQ ?

Also is it true that the 250 ohm versions are easier to amp than the 80 amp versions ?


I believe MLE is one of the few people that can answer that as he has owned more Beyers then most.

 

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post #4234 of 5549
2/22/12 at 9:44am
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I believe MLE is one of the few people that can answer that as he has owned more Beyers then most.

 



Anyways i am not going to be buying an amp soon so i don't think it should be a problem

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post #4235 of 5549
2/22/12 at 10:09am
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No, the DT770 Pro 80 to ME is DEFINITELY the easiest of the Beyers in terms of what can drive them. The 32ohm is actually harder to drive. I dunno wtf Beyer was smoking when they made the 32ohm Premiums.

The 250ohm is harder to drive than the 80ohm, but easier than the 32 and 600ohm, IMHO. Seriously, if you're looking into either a 32 or 250ohm beyer, just get the 250ohm. The power needed for both is near identical. The reason I say go for the 250ohm is because the 32ohm fails without an amp. Since you're gonna need an amp, you may as well get the better one. The 600ohm should honestly be left for those with some powerful desktop amps. The others can be driven well enough from portable amps like the E11.


Remember, volume does NOT equal driving force. The 600ohm beyers can be driven to excruciatingly loud levels off a lot of things, but won't beat a 250ohm from a portable/weaker amp. If you see yourself upgrading your amps at some point, then I guess the 600ohm makes sense, but if you're trying to settle for something NOW, I recommend the 250ohm. Just my 2 cents. I do realize that this IS Head-fi, and you'll probably upgrade at some point, so IF you're like a lot of people here that build for the future, get the 600ohm.



Yay, got my Vita. Haven't turned it on though. I put my 8gb card in, and commenced to charge it. I never turn on new toys until they are fully charged. I'll be going to sleep in a few, so it will have to wait until tonight.

As impatient a person as I am... I'm strangely patient when it comes to new portable electronics.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 2/22/12 at 10:21am
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post #4236 of 5549
2/22/12 at 10:54am
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Also is it true that the 250 ohm versions are easier to amp than the 80 amp versions ?


Only if you have a source with high (>= 100 Ohm) output impedance. Otherwise, with a source optimized for low impedance headphones, 80 Ohm is "easier". But do not get it for that reason only, having a headphone with a signature that matches your preferences better is more important (for example, the 770 has a dip in the upper midrange that many people do not like).

 

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post #4237 of 5549
2/22/12 at 11:03am
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No, the DT770 Pro 80 to ME is DEFINITELY the easiest of the Beyers in terms of what can drive them. The 32ohm is actually harder to drive. I dunno wtf Beyer was smoking when they made the 32ohm Premiums.
The 250ohm is harder to drive than the 80ohm, but easier than the 32 and 600ohm, IMHO. Seriously, if you're looking into either a 32 or 250ohm beyer, just get the 250ohm. The power needed for both is near identical. The reason I say go for the 250ohm is because the 32ohm fails without an amp. Since you're gonna need an amp, you may as well get the better one. The 600ohm should honestly be left for those with some powerful desktop amps. The others can be driven well enough from portable amps like the E11.
Remember, volume does NOT equal driving force. The 600ohm beyers can be driven to excruciatingly loud levels off a lot of things, but won't beat a 250ohm from a portable/weaker amp. If you see yourself upgrading your amps at some point, then I guess the 600ohm makes sense, but if you're trying to settle for something NOW, I recommend the 250ohm. Just my 2 cents. I do realize that this IS Head-fi, and you'll probably upgrade at some point, so IF you're like a lot of people here that build for the future, get the 600ohm.
Yay, got my Vita. Haven't turned it on though. I put my 8gb card in, and commenced to charge it. I never turn on new toys until they are fully charged. I'll be going to sleep in a few, so it will have to wait until tonight.
As impatient a person as I am... I'm strangely patient when it comes to new portable electronics.


It will probably be a LONG time before i upgrade from these
I'll probably stick with the 80 ohm considering i will be visiting the US at the end of 2012 and amp them their.
Everything is expensive here 

 

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post #4238 of 5549
2/22/12 at 11:05am
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If this is your first serious headphone and like bass, I believe you'll be very happy with them.
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post #4239 of 5549
2/22/12 at 11:06am
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If this is your first serious headphone and like bass, I believe you'll be very happy with them.


Yes it is and yes i do like my bass :)

ALSO A BIG THANK YOU to everyone who helped me !


Edited by Mysterious - 2/22/12 at 11:16am
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post #4240 of 5549
2/22/12 at 11:35am

I received my Fiio E6 in the mail today (as a temporary solution before getting the E17) and can say that it definitely does go well with the Beyer 990 pro. Overall sound volume is up (as it should be with an amp) and the sound quality is increased, mainly cause of the EQ. Now I can turn down those scratching highs a bit that bothered me before (for example on MW3 with the PP90M1). Having said that, the E6 does not improve overall sound quality (other than the scratching because of the EQ). But I suppose that´s not something you can expect from a € 25 amp. I am expecting that from the Fiio E17 though!!

 

So, Mysterious, if you can go like $ 25 for the E6 over your 200 budget then you could get yourself the 990 pro and a serious amp/DAC later down the road.

 

And just because "sound whoring" came up: I don´t think that you need particularly good headphones for that to begin with. Of course I can do it with my Beyer 990 pro right now, but I have also done it with my € 20 Sennheiser in-ears. To be able to hear where enemies are coming from is more a matter of map-knowledge and experience with the game, rather than using the best headphones out there. A decent set (by a rather low standard) of headphones will suffice.


Edited by l00l - 2/22/12 at 11:38am
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post #4241 of 5549
2/22/12 at 10:28pm
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I received my Fiio E6 in the mail today (as a temporary solution before getting the E17) and can say that it definitely does go well with the Beyer 990 pro. Overall sound volume is up (as it should be with an amp) and the sound quality is increased, mainly cause of the EQ. Now I can turn down those scratching highs a bit that bothered me before (for example on MW3 with the PP90M1). Having said that, the E6 does not improve overall sound quality (other than the scratching because of the EQ). But I suppose that´s not something you can expect from a € 25 amp. I am expecting that from the Fiio E17 though!!

 

So, Mysterious, if you can go like $ 25 for the E6 over your 200 budget then you could get yourself the 990 pro and a serious amp/DAC later down the road.

 

And just because "sound whoring" came up: I don´t think that you need particularly good headphones for that to begin with. Of course I can do it with my Beyer 990 pro right now, but I have also done it with my € 20 Sennheiser in-ears. To be able to hear where enemies are coming from is more a matter of map-knowledge and experience with the game, rather than using the best headphones out there. A decent set (by a rather low standard) of headphones will suffice.


I live outside the US so i have to take shipping also into consideration and i will probably get an open headphone down the road but right now since i don't have an amp i will pass and also i wanted to use this headphones for portable use ( at times ) :)

 


Edited by Mysterious - 2/22/12 at 10:31pm
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post #4242 of 5549
2/23/12 at 3:12am
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So turned on my Vita, and the first thing I saw was something like this...

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Ugh.

Not exactly the Vita's fault, but OLED in general, it seems. A replacement is already on it's way, but I expect I'll still get some of those artifacts on blacks in low light conditions. I guess all display techs have their own shortcomings, though I believe if they'd have gone Super AMOLED, this wouldn't have been an issue as the super AMOLED phones I've seen were PERFECTLY uniform with no issues whatsoever. I would venture a guess by saying that 2nd gen Vitas will probably have those screens.

Other than that, the Vita is pretty awesome, though I've spent most of my time setting it up and getting acquainted with it. I only fired up Uncharted for a few minutes. Graphics are impressive, but still not 1st gen ps3. Still, it's DAMN sexy.


Again, guys, find a black background or really dark scenes, and very low light conditions. Let us know what you see. That's not my Vita on the pic above, but mine is a milder version of that, and it's distracting and obvious if you have no lights on.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 2/23/12 at 3:36am
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post #4243 of 5549
2/23/12 at 3:51am

MLE, I decided to go with the AKG K701s. Thanks for your thoughts!

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post #4244 of 5549
2/23/12 at 3:56am
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I hope you like them. Let us know what you think! Not sure I'd have gone with that, since to me the Q701 is better all around, but if FPS is top priority, the K701 won't disappoint.
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post #4245 of 5549
2/23/12 at 5:04am

Will do. Looking forward to checking it out with that Yamaha Silent Cinema feature!

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