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post #11836 of 14508
2/19/13 at 8:07am
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The Modi/Magni stack is cheaper than the E17+E9K and the Magni's a bit more capable or versatile as an amp (lower output impedance etc.). They're more focused/streamlined and less feature laden, you're paying strictly for the core DAC/amp functionality without bass boost options, portability, extra inputs, etc.

What's your budget? There's the ODAC/O2 too, slightly more expensive, not sure how the ODAC compares to the Modi... If you're trying to keep costs down I think you could easily opt for a $50 Xonar DG/DGX card and pair it with a Magni or O2 without missing much. (which would also get you Dolby Headphone for PC games)

In a pinch I believe you could even run the Mixamp as a DAC off the PC, tho it's far from the best solution. I believe the O2 has all the connections in the front so it might be friendlier if you're often gonna be switching the amp around from the Mixamp to the PC (whether to a DAC or internal card) and vice versa, the Fiio units would also give you more inputs.

 

So I see that there is the mini-USB connector on the back of the ODAC/02 combo and then a Line In on the front of it. So that means I'll be able to have the PC connected via the USB, and the Mixamp connected to the Line In?

 

Or would I be unplugging things every time I wanted to switch between PC use and console gaming with the Mixamp?

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post #11837 of 14508
2/19/13 at 8:36am
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000CMS0XU/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used

 

 

Audio Technica ATH-AD700 Open-air Dynamic Audiophile Headphones

 

Good condition to like new condition $60.55-$64

 

 

In case anyone didn't see this in the deals thread. There are still quite a few left.

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post #11838 of 14508
2/19/13 at 9:57am

i have a question from a non audiophile (or soon to become one)

 

 you have mid high lows

 

Singers voice what are they classed as? or are part of the mid high low depending on how they sing?

 

just curosity

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post #11839 of 14508
2/19/13 at 10:11am

No matter how they sing, human vocals are centered within the midrange, just as most other instruments are, they have fundamental tones centered from 100-1khz and overtones that can go to 6-8khz and sometimes 10khz.

 

This is a great resource:

 

http://www.independentrecording.net/irn/resources/freqchart/main_display.htm


Edited by TMRaven - 2/19/13 at 10:18am
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post #11840 of 14508
2/19/13 at 12:13pm
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If you wanna get real technical about certain aspects you can try reading charts at places like InnerFidelity or changstar, but ultimately there's things like soundstage that you can't realistically measure in any meaningful way so you just have to take a little bit of everything.

 

Great resources. Thanks for that.

 

MLE, could use a bit more clarification on one of your reviews. You stated in the DT990 review that you "happily sold the killer K701s as [you] saw no need to own anything for gaming after the 990s at the time." Does this mean you (1) found the DT990 to be within the realm of the detail whoring the K701 delivered to you or that (2) there was a measurable degradation in directional audio performance of the DT990, but the overall package was better? Or some other reason completely that I'm not picking up on?

 

Thanks!

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post #11841 of 14508
2/19/13 at 4:46pm

Hey MLE i have not been on here in awhile and have not read but skimmed over the back posts because,  "IT'S JUST TOO MUCH TO READ".. Just curious how did that receiver work out for you?? Does it have more than plenty of power for all your headphone needs just from the headphones out jack and lastly how does that dolby headphone decorder inside the receiver compair to the mixamp pro variants..

 

"any year" ?? What's the real differences if any??


Edited by I95North - 2/19/13 at 4:49pm
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post #11842 of 14508
2/19/13 at 8:26pm
I never thought I would experience such... luxury.





Fullsized ear speakers oooooooooooh yeah baby! Am I allowed to say porn?


The next few days should be VERY interesting...
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post #11843 of 14508
2/19/13 at 8:29pm
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Rogue, directional cues from headphones I rate about 7.5 and up won't be much different. The only differences worth nothing are tonal balance and soundstage which isn't gonna be a humongous factor once you get to performance this good.

The 990s are plenty detailed as is. The K701 rates higher because there is less bass, so it puts easier focus in details. Easier focus =/= more details.

As for my receiver, I do find it to have ample power for the headphones I have used, as well as a ton of gain/volume. The dolby processing is identical to the Mixamp, and has no hiss. If you can score a receiver for a good price, this will take care of amp/dac/gaming needs. Just no voice chat.

The only thing to keep in mind is that receivers tend to have really high output impedance which won't match with most standard headphones. Planars and the AkGs K70x and Qs wont get affected much, but other lower impedance headphones will.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 2/19/13 at 9:06pm
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post #11844 of 14508
2/19/13 at 9:00pm
By the way Mad, I brought your gear inside RIGHT as the mailman dropped it off. So nothing was left out in the cold smily_headphones1.gif I don't really have time to audition the HE's or ODAC tonight though... Had stuff to do between mail arrival and now, when I should sleep before an early morning.
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post #11845 of 14508
2/19/13 at 9:08pm
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Didn't see your last post until now. The Q701 looks so pretty in pics. Nice headband mod. wink.gif
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post #11846 of 14508
2/19/13 at 9:31pm
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I never thought I would experience such... luxury.
 

 

 

Very few ever get to experience the luxury of the parts express mini stereo headphones...

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post #11847 of 14508
2/19/13 at 9:33pm
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Oh, Chico. Lol.
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post #11848 of 14508
2/19/13 at 9:41pm
Nice threesome Evshrug... wink.gif

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So I see that there is the mini-USB connector on the back of the ODAC/02 combo and then a Line In on the front of it. So that means I'll be able to have the PC connected via the USB, and the Mixamp connected to the Line In?

Or would I be unplugging things every time I wanted to switch between PC use and console gaming with the Mixamp?

The computer communicates with the DAC via USB and the DAC feeds the amp over RCA, 1 output on the former and one input on the latter (plus the headphone out, duh)... So yeah, you'd be unplugging stuff and whatnot. That's why I mentioned that the O2's front ports might be friendlier in that regard, or the E17/E9K's multiple input/outputs.

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No matter how they sing, human vocals are centered within the midrange, just as most other instruments are, they have fundamental tones centered from 100-1khz and overtones that can go to 6-8khz and sometimes 10khz.

I'm sure an opera singer covers more of that range than someone like say, Taylor Swift? tongue.gif Not that I have much experience with opera (and I plead the fifth on Taylor Swift).
Edited by Impulse - 2/19/13 at 9:43pm
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post #11849 of 14508
2/19/13 at 9:50pm
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Rogue, directional cues from headphones I rate about 7.5 and up won't be much different. The only differences worth nothing are tonal balance and soundstage which isn't gonna be a humongous factor once you get to performance this good.

The 990s are plenty detailed as is. The K701 rates higher because there is less bass, so it puts easier focus in details. Easier focus =/= more details.

 

It sounds like, in terms of competitive gaming and directional audio, I can't really go wrong with either one of them when it comes to a more comfortable alternative to the AD700. I think I may continue to eyeball the K702 for right now. The bonus check can't come soon enough.

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post #11850 of 14508
2/19/13 at 10:54pm
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The computer communicates with the DAC via USB and the DAC feeds the amp over RCA, 1 output on the former and one input on the latter (plus the headphone out, duh)... So yeah, you'd be unplugging stuff and whatnot. That's why I mentioned that the O2's front ports might be friendlier in that regard, or the E17/E9K's multiple input/outputs.

 

Yeah... that kind of rules out the O2+ODAC.

 

So there wouldn't be any unplugging wires all the time with the E17/E9K combo? That sounds better to me... and the E17/E9K would be better for customization such as bass boost, right? Since the O2+ODAC is meant to be just a neutral amp.

 

Are there any other AMP/DAC's out there I should consider that also have multiple inputs/outputs and no need for unplugging stuff to go back and forth?

 

I'm about to pull the trigger on the Annies. I really like the look of them compared to other sets (I know looks aren't everything) but they seem to be really comfortable as well. And from reading MLE's review, they seem to be real good for an "all arounder" headset and using it for different purposes.

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