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post #11251 of 13693
1/26/13 at 7:56am
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Dolby Headphone has 3 room modes. Most devices use Room 2.

While testing Nameless's Victor SU-DH1 (which has all three DH room modes), Room 1 was the smallest virtual space, with the least processing. Room 2 was the typical DH mode used in most devices like the Mixamp. Room 3 was an echoey mess, with a metric ton of reverb.

While I can't compare yet (I might win that Mixamp tomorrow), this DH reminds me of Room 1. Highest fidelity for DH, but not as airy as Room 2, which hurts positional cues. AGain, I'm just assuming. I did just fine with the receiver yesterday on MW2, and Avatar sounded AMAZING with it. It may as well be room 2. It's been over a week since I sold my Mixamp 5.8, and my memory is hazy.

 

Ahhh, I see now. Maybe that is why the Monoprice amp sounded so bad in comparison to the Mixamp. Room 3 pretty much describes how their amp sounded.

 

Back to the PS3 issue, have you tried this yet? Have you tried a different hdmi cable as well? My roommates GT30 wouldn't even work with the PS3 directly until we switched to a different cable when he first bought his TV.

 

-Erik

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post #11252 of 13693
1/26/13 at 8:05am
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I tried three different cables of three different brands. No matter what, the PS3 freezes, and I have to unplug it and go through the error screen...

Trust me, it just doesn't wanna play nice with the receiver.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/26/13 at 8:13am
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post #11253 of 13693
1/26/13 at 8:32am
Maybe you could pass through the PS3 video to still use USB, but select to use Optical for the audio? My entry-level receiver lets me select the audio source independently from video. Still think that, as proficient a semi-tech-geek you are, you might've overlooked something (like the OSD you missed earlier).
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post #11254 of 13693
1/26/13 at 8:36am
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Oh, I'm using the optical now. I have no problem there. I just really wanted audio through HDMI for less cable clutter. I don't think this receiver does the lossless DTS and Dolby Variants anyways. No that it matters, as I'm using headphones, and DH only needs the standard stuff.

I've tried all manner of settings. As long as HDMI audio is enabled, the PS3 freezes.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/26/13 at 8:37am
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post #11255 of 13693
1/26/13 at 9:41am
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Oh, I'm using the optical now. I have no problem there. I just really wanted audio through HDMI for less cable clutter. I don't think this receiver does the lossless DTS and Dolby Variants anyways. No that it matters, as I'm using headphones, and DH only needs the standard stuff.

I've tried all manner of settings. As long as HDMI audio is enabled, the PS3 freezes.

 

When I get home I'm gonna lug my receiver upstairs into his room and try it. If I get a solution, I'll let you know. I really like puzzles :)

 

-Erik

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post #11256 of 13693
1/26/13 at 9:57am
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Oh, I'm using the optical now. I have no problem there. I just really wanted audio through HDMI for less cable clutter. I don't think this receiver does the lossless DTS and Dolby Variants anyways. No that it matters, as I'm using headphones, and DH only needs the standard stuff.

I've tried all manner of settings. As long as HDMI audio is enabled, the PS3 freezes.

 

Did you try this?

 

 

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HDTV Not Automatically Detected after Resetting Video Output Setting

With certain televisions, the PS3 may not automatically detect the HDMI source (TV) which it is plugged into, even after resetting the Video Output Setting (as described above). If resetting the Video Output Setting did not work, you may need to follow these steps to manually locate the HDMI source:
 
Connect both the AV Cable and the HDMI cable from the PS3 to the corresponding (AV and HDMI) ports on your TV.
Proceed with resetting the Video Output Setting on the PS3 again (follow the instructions above, and then continue to step 3).
Turn the TV channel to the corresponding "Input" or "Video" channel for the AV Cable connection.
Manually change the Video Output Settings to HDMI (follow the instructions below, then continue to step 5).
Now switch the "Input" or "Video" channel on the TV for the HDMI port the PS3 is cu rrently plugged into.
Accept the display settings for HDMI before the timer runs out (30 seconds). Highlight "Yes" and press the  button.
You can now disconnect AV Cable from the PS3 and the TV, as it is no longer needed.[/quote]

 

 
-Erik
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post #11257 of 13693
1/26/13 at 1:18pm

I know this isn't a music thread. But since I have put the Annies away for resale. I pulled out my trusty CALs and have been listening to this mix. The bass in it is fantastic. A little bit of Dub, Electro and Drum and Bass. 

HowlanDub on the Electronic thread posted it. All thanks go to him. 

How I missed thick deep bass. I always love being reminded how awesome the CALs do bass with the HM5 pads on.

 

Sorry for derailing the thread.

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post #11258 of 13693
1/26/13 at 3:04pm
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Well, yeah. The CAL is closed. An open headphone will never match the euphonic bass distortion of closed headphones. If bass was top priority, the Annie is definitely nowhere near the top. The Annie's bass is slightly over neutral, while the CAL and 990s are highly past neutral.

Youre comparing a warm, bass heavy headphone to a warm, balanced one.

Way different.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/26/13 at 3:32pm
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post #11259 of 13693
1/26/13 at 4:55pm

Hello, I need a pair of headphones for gaming, I'm among the Sennheiser HD 419, Beyerdynamic DT 235, JVC HARX900 (btw, it looks very heavy), Superlux 668B and Samson SR850.

 

 

Thanks in advance...

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post #11260 of 13693
1/26/13 at 5:21pm
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Well, yeah. The CAL is closed. An open headphone will never match the euphonic bass distortion of closed headphones. If bass was top priority, the Annie is definitely nowhere near the top. The Annie's bass is slightly over neutral, while the CAL and 990s are highly past neutral.

Youre comparing a warm, bass heavy headphone to a warm, balanced one.

Way different.

Don't believe I was comparing them. Just mentioned I was enjoying the bass after using the Annie's for the past week or so.
But since you crave a comparison.
The Annie is technically superior in every way except bass. it has depth and quality but lacks impact. The mids allow vocals to push thru in some cases maybe a little to far to the point of fatiging if you are not used to the sound. i also didnt find the soundstage and positional accuracy to be that hot i would get very confused at times. this was in halo and borderlands2. i am not having the same problems with the CALs.
Overall I wish I could keep them for stuff like portishead, daft punk, LOTR soundtracks anything where mids play a big part. Where they rest on my jaw line is very painful. I know now AkG in general is not for me due to their pad diameter.
With the Annie's I was hoping they would give me that out head feeling of the HD598 but they just don't. Could just be my head shape and ear shape that are causing the difference sound other people are hearing and I am ok with that. I want a DT990 with mids which I think is probably an impossible task. Hoping the HE400 helps towards that goal.

Sorry got long winded and this was a pain to type on my phone. smily_headphones1.gif
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post #11261 of 13693
1/26/13 at 9:37pm
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Hello, I need a pair of headphones for gaming, I'm among the Sennheiser HD 419, Beyerdynamic DT 235, JVC HARX900 (btw, it looks very heavy), Superlux 668B and Samson SR850.

 

 

Thanks in advance...

Sorry, but the members here could help you alot better if we had more information. Try answering these questions

 

Price range?

Games that you play?

Do you want competitive or fun headphones (do you want to hear footsteps and know where gunshots are coming from, or do you want explosions to sound awesome)

Are you playing in surround sound?

And will these headphones have different uses?

 

I think that should help us a bit more to help you

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post #11262 of 13693
1/26/13 at 9:47pm
Price range is probably somewhat defined already given his current list (<$65), but yeah, answers to the rest of the questions would help in recommending one or two of those choices over the rest. You don't have to answer the third question in an absolute way, it's just to give others an idea of which way your preference leans.

The Superlux and Samson lean towards the more analytical/competitive end of the spectrum, whereas the JVC's got way more bass and possibly a fun immersion factor (more comfortable too IMO, tho they're very large). The Senn I haven't heard in a while tho I'd guess them to be somewhere in the middle. None are a bad choice if you're on a tight budget, just depends on what your preference or priorities are.
Edited by Impulse - 1/26/13 at 9:49pm
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post #11263 of 13693
1/26/13 at 10:14pm
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So I spent some time listening to the Marantz with the Annie, and I'm pretty impressed by it's sound quality. It's definitely not as clear as the Compass 2 which is more neutral, but the Marantz adds a pinch more warmth, which makes the Annie a little more pleasant and forgiving. If the Annie is close to a Q701 with the Compass 2, the Annie is like an HD650 with the Marantz. Of course, that's a gross exaggeration, but that subtle difference is there.

I'm very happy with its gaming and movie sound quality, which really does best the Mixamp by a noticeable amount. It's that fullness, that lack of hiss, and less processed sound that makes it worthwhile. I'm still unsure on its DH being Room 2 or not, but having tested a few new demos like Sly Cooper, Dead Space 3, and Metal Gear Rising... the Annie and SR5002 is a pretty awesome gaming setup for sure. I certainly don't see the need to attach my Compass 2 to the mix.
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post #11264 of 13693
1/26/13 at 10:20pm
That's nice, good to see at least some AVR's out there don't skimp on the headphone amp/output!
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post #11265 of 13693
1/26/13 at 10:37pm
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Just wondering what the output impedance is on it though. Receivers tend to have high output impedances which may be why it is warmer than the Compass 2. Still the AKGs and planar magnetics aren't hampered by output impedance like most headphones. I probably wouldn't recommend using a standard dynamic low impedance headphone on it, which might make the bass sloppy and treble harsher than normal. 250ohm and up would be a safe bet, aside from something like the Hifimans and K/Q/Annies.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/26/13 at 10:39pm
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