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post #10471 of 13667
1/5/13 at 2:18pm

It doesn't have the bass that I think I want so that's a no go for me.
 

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post #10472 of 13667
1/5/13 at 2:28pm
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The Anniversary? Umm, have you heard them? The bass is quite potent. It's not a basshead headphone, but I do consider the bass emphasized above neutral. There are times when I feel it has as much bass as the HE-400, and close to it every other time. These are NOT like the Q701 or the older K701/2 in terms of bass.

Quantity-wise, If bass was neutral at 7 (I consider neutral good), the 990 would be an 8.5, HE-400 would be an 8, the Annie is an 7.8 (full and satisfying). The Q701 would be like 6.7 (just shy of neutral), and the old K701 would be like a 6.3.
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post #10473 of 13667
1/5/13 at 2:40pm
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Hailin, the DT990 is still more fun oriented than the Annie. If I were to put bass into a quantifiable number...
DT990 - 9.0
HE400 - 8.5 (lot more sub bass than the rest, but not as bass oriented overall as the 990)
DT880 - 8.0
HD650 - 8.0
K702 Annie - 7.8
Q701 - 7.2
Old K701 - 6.9
Made up numbers but still.
The 990 and K702 Annie are very different. I feel they compete more with the 880/HD650 in terms of balance, but sound most similar to a more energetic, and open HD650. The HD650 is more closed in, slower, and more reserved in the treble. You can call it intimate. The Annie is a lot more open so it isnt as intimate.
However, if I had to guess how the Annie will perform for gaming, I will guesstimate an 8.0 for fun, 9 for competitive (similar the Q701, but warmer and not as oriented in the details).
I have no doubt they will be my first pick for general all rounder.

I probably want a more fun than competitive can for games like Bioshock, Skyrim, etc., I might end up buying a can for competitive gaming down the road. 

 

Taken from fidelio x1 thread, page 38

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Now, the game changes a bit if we are talking about cinematic gaming. I'm talking about when you are playing something like Mass Effect, Max Payne, Crysis 2, Skyrim, The Witcher 2, etc. and want to really be engrossed in the experience. I think both headphones do an overall great job immersing you into the experience but the X1 does it all just a bit better because it is less bright than the DT 990 and handles the sub bass very well. Watching the cinematics in Mass Effect was more rewarding because the ship lasers and the low bass signature of the reapers and the mass relays had a fuller sound on the X1, kind of like I was watching Star Wars in the theatre. Crysis 2 is another one where the X1's control of the sub bass helps out. When you switch suit modes the robotic voice that says "stealth engaged" or "maximum armor" and stuff like that sounds pretty sweet. Also, Crysis 2's main score, which was composed by Hans Zimmer, sounds sweet due to how well the X1's handle brass instruments and the slightly better depth perception compared to the DT 990. Still, the DT 990 was by no means a slouch and was miles better than the DT 880.

 

This leads me to the conclusion that if you prioritize competitive games then the DT 990 is the better headphone because of how bright the headphone is, and it is pretty good for cinematic experiences as well. But if you aren't an extremely competitive gamer and want even better immersion with a warmer signature with tighter bass control then I think the X1 is a very good choice.

 


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1/5/13 at 2:44pm
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The Anniversary? Umm, have you heard them? The bass is quite potent. It's not a basshead headphone, but I do consider the bass emphasized above neutral. There are times when I feel it has as much bass as the HE-400, and close to it every other time. These are NOT like the Q701 or the older K701/2 in terms of bass.
Quantity-wise, If bass was neutral at 7 (I consider neutral good), the 990 would be an 8.5, HE-400 would be an 8, the Annie is an 7.8 (full and satisfying). The Q701 would be like 6.7 (just shy of neutral), and the old K701 would be like a 6.3.

 



Just wait till they are fully broken in. You have me excited to receive mine! Still trying to figure out which amp to pair with it.

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post #10475 of 13667
1/5/13 at 2:46pm
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Roger, disregard those old bass scores. They weren't well thought out. Trust me, the Annie is fun. The most fun balanced can I have heard. The fun cans outside of the D7000 don't compare to it, unless you want specific bass bloat. Yes, not even the DT990.

I don't believe in that break in/burn in stuff. It sounds amazing now, it will sound just as amazing months from now.

As for amping, not sure how much my amp is doing to the sound, but the Annie sounded full even just off my phone. Still, I'd play to it's strengths and get a warm-ish amp. M-stage?
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/5/13 at 2:48pm
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1/5/13 at 2:57pm

I've got the pre 2011 Astro A40 setup and I love it but I think my headset is starting to age a little bit. Would it be worth my time to go with the Sennheiser PC 360 or get the newer A40 headset?

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post #10477 of 13667
1/5/13 at 3:01pm

MLE, you stated that on occasion, the Annie's bass sounds similar to the HE-400, when would that be specifically?

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post #10478 of 13667
1/5/13 at 3:02pm
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If you want a more open and competitive oriented headset, go for the PC360. If you want more fun, I'd upgrade to the new A40s... but actually, no. The A40 is a good headset, but I wouldn't buy it outside of it's bundle with the Mixamp. Seems overpriced if buying it alone.

Man, I wanna hear the 2011 Mixamp. I would be willing to swap it for my 5.8, but I'd have to hear it first, lol.
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post #10479 of 13667
1/5/13 at 3:06pm
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MLE, you stated that on occasion, the Annie's bass sounds similar to the HE-400, when would that be specifically?

With bass heavy music, the difference in bass is minor. I still need more testing, but even with non-bass heavy music, the bass is still nearly on par with the HE-400, despite the HE-400 having the sub bass that matches the mid bass. I dunno how the Annie compares in sub bass (which a lot of music doesn't tend to take much importance in anyways). This is why I originally sold my HE400 for the 990. The midbass was more present on the 990. But I missed the refinement, and soon went back to the HE-400 and didn't look back.

If you want basshead bass, neither the HE-400 or Annie have that bass bloat. However, the bass is full and quite satisfying especially when the music you listen to takes importance in the bass. Trust me, they do not lack bass, at all.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/5/13 at 3:08pm
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post #10480 of 13667
1/5/13 at 3:12pm

So I had the Annies in my cart. My brother got home from work turned on all his gear and I took them out of my cart and went to a Canadian website and order the DT770 LEs. To hell with it. lol I need to block these guys out. :)

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post #10481 of 13667
1/5/13 at 3:13pm
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Don't the LE's have pleather pads? frown.gif
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post #10482 of 13667
1/5/13 at 3:15pm

You make compelling arguments MLE. I'll see what the price is a couple of weeks from now, if it is less than $500 I'll probably buy it.This will probably be an early birthday gift to myself... even though my birthday is not for another six months. That's how I'll justify it.tongue.gif
 

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post #10483 of 13667
1/5/13 at 3:17pm
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What have you owned before? Trying to gauge what you expect in bass. Just don't expect DT990 emphasis on bass, and you'll be pleased. Open headphones don't normally have that much bass emphasis. The Annie is quite a bit better sounding than the 990s, I'll be honest. There won't be going back to the 990s for the millionth time for me, lol. The Annie has put a definite stop to that.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/5/13 at 3:20pm
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post #10484 of 13667
1/5/13 at 3:29pm

Like I said before, I haven't owned an "audiophile" headphone. I don't really want a bloated sound. I just want the bass to appear when it is needed.
 

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post #10485 of 13667
1/5/13 at 3:42pm
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Man, I wanna hear the 2011 Mixamp. I would be willing to swap it for my 5.8, but I'd have to hear it first, lol.

 

Why do you want the 2011 mixamp?

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