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Originally Posted by Impulse View Post

...getting a pair that still has that new plastic injection smell....

 

Who doesn't love that smell!

 

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Thank you.

 

I see but I have found this thread: http://www.head-fi.org/t/612416/akg-q701-quincy-jones-edition-is-killed

 

B&H Photo Video delivers to my country. Amazon doesn't.

 

 

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This item has been discontinued by the manufacturer and is no longer available.

 

If PurpleAngel will come back to Brazil, and if he will to São Paulo instead of Rio de Janeiro, I ask him to bring one for me. tongue.gif (kidding)

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I just bought a PS3 and I'm in the market for a pair of headphones that meets both gaming and general entertainment purposes. 

 

After reading the original post and thinking about it for a while I've come to the conclusion that I want to try out the DT770 pros. I know that their base is overpowered for gaming but I'm thinking that if I par it up with the new mixAmp with equalizer functions that may balance things. Can anyone chime in and say whether that will be enough or not?

 

Also, I only want to buy one pair of headphones, so if they won't be the DT770s, I'll probably end up buying the Q701s. I don't really think I'll be doing a lot of competitive multiplayer in the PS3. Maybe on my PC but even then it probably won't be call of duty or any other similar game. I'm more into single-player games, and the multi-player titles I do play, tend to be more co-operative. 

 

My budget is $300 if it helps (besides mixAmp, or other virtual sorround device)


Edited by Roger de Ceiba - 11/30/12 at 9:15pm
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Thread Starter 
That sounds like a grand idea, really.
post #9305 of 26130
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post

From what I understand, Microsoft pushes for Dolby on the xBox games, which I'm guessing is going to spill over into PC games (how much?), so I'm guessing there is little support for DTS.

Some games come with an audio setting for "Home Theater", that might benefit DTS (maybe).

Blu-ray movies seem to favor DTS audio.

 

What is your current audio setting?

I don't have one. I'm currently in research mode to try to figure what I'll be getting. As of now, I'm leaning toward the Hifiman he-400 and the astro mixamp pro. Probably a new Yamaha receiver with Silent cinema further down the road. I was wondering if the fact that the Astro mixamp doesn't support DTS will prevent me from enjoying some games that might be in DTS.

post #9306 of 26130
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Originally Posted by clem84 View Post

I don't have one. I'm currently in research mode to try to figure what I'll be getting. As of now, I'm leaning toward the Hifiman HE-400 and the Astro mix-amp pro. Probably a new Yamaha receiver with Silent cinema further down the road. I was wondering if the fact that the Astro mixamp doesn't support DTS will prevent me from enjoying some games that might be in DTS.

I think Blu-ray movies are big on DTS and would assume games are not designed to work with  any special DTS features.

Or is there a reason your looking into DTS that my brain does not understand?

I do prefer Yamaha receiver because they all seem to come with Yamaha's headphone surround sound tech, Silent Cinema.

Yamaha receivers should provide both Dolby and DTS features, maybe you should skip on getting an Astro Mix-amp.

 

As your thinking of getting a Hifiman HE-400, maybe ask on the following thread about how well the HE-400 works plugged directly into receivers.

Or what they might recommend.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/604583/hifiman-he-400-review

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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post

I think Blu-ray movies are big on DTS and would assume games are not designed to work with  any special DTS features.

Or is there a reason your looking into DTS that my brain does not understand?

I do prefer Yamaha receiver because they all seem to come with Yamaha's headphone surround sound tech, Silent Cinema.

Yamaha receivers should provide both Dolby and DTS features, maybe you should skip on getting an Astro Mix-amp.

 

As your thinking of getting a Hifiman HE-400, maybe ask on the following thread about how well the HE-400 works plugged directly into receivers.

Or what they might recommend.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/604583/hifiman-he-400-review

Even if the main reason I'm getting this setup is for games, having something that works well for movies also would have been nice. Thanks for the tip. I'll ask in that other thread.

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I posted last night, but I have distilled my question more, so as hopefully not to anger the masses as a noob who hasn't done his research (such as reading the fp, rtfm!, right?)

 

Anyway - I am looking for headphones to watch movies on PS3 and play games with chat on the xbox 360.  The most elegant solution is either the Triton Warheads or the Astro A50's - but I know I am giving up sq for the wireless and integrated mic.

 

Ideally I would get either:

Crossfade M100

Ultrasone Pro 900S

HiFiMan HE 400

 

and attach an antlion mic (http://www.modmic.com/collections/frontpage) and use that for chat.  Though, on the Antlion website they do not give a solution for xbox chat, and just point me to a gamestop forum where people discuss the problem.  It seems most of the solutions are geared towards using a PC headset that has a built in mic and converting that to use on xbox chat.  But, with this solution I have the headphone cable and the cable from the external antlion mic to account for.  

 

I am really unfamiliar with all this stuff.  I have a pioneer vsx 1022 and a Mits 65 737 TV that does not have a headphone jack.

 

Has anyone used a setup like above to play xbox 360 and watch movies via PS3?  What adapters and cables would I need?  If it gets so clunky and messy, I may just go with the Astro A50's, but I would rather not.

 

How about ordering this from monoprice and using the cables/connectors that come with it to use with one of the above headphones? Would that work?

 

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=114&cp_id=11401&cs_id=1140103&p_id=9771&seq=1&format=2#description

 

This is the other solution I was looking at, but I think it works for converting PC headsets, so wouldn't work with my setup?

http://www.amazon.com/Headset-Buddy-Xbox-360-Adapter/dp/B006MHEPFG

 

 

Thanks for reading.

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I'm totally new here. My first post. Yipee. I just bought the Q701's new from Amazon. My concern is that I want to use these on PS3. I realize I can buy the Mixamp, but I just learned about LPCM. Uncompressed lossless. I have a phat PS3, so LPCM is my only option for noncompressed. I see that optical can only do 2 channel, while HDMI is cable of 7.1 192kHZ. So, it seems that I would need to get a reciever with Dolby Headphone, Pro Logic IIx, and that was capable of accepting this LPCM signal right? Why would I get these Audiophile grade headphones, only to listen to Dolby Digital? I just want to be able to get the best sound quality possible out of my PS3 while using these headphones. I've been on google for hours reading and reading. I need some help. Thanks.

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TaiChiCali,
What I do, is just use a cheap lapel mic (costing a dollar or two from China, MLE mentions one in his first post, I bought and have found acceptable one on Amazon with a "Neweer" brand name) and a cheap 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter to plug the mic into my Xbox 360 controller. Then, I set chat audio to play through the "speakers" (hit the guide button>settings>preferences>voice>"Play through Speakers" option), so I hear everything in my headphones and have an independent mic clipped to my shirt that doesn't pick up breathing smily_headphones1.gif I have also had equivalent success with 2.5mm jack wired cellphone earpieces, like the Platronics MX210 that I just sort of stick onto my shirt collar with the boom mic pointing up.

Of your 3 headphones, I would personally be torn between the M-100 and HE 400. I've been following the M-100 thread, and of course read MLE's glowing impression of the HE's (with velour pads) since he got 'em. I used to have a pair or Crossfade LPs (still own them, they've GOT to be around somewhere!), they had better than average soundstage for a closed headphone, but a somewhat dark and rather bass-heavy sound signature. The M-100 from all accounts would be more balanced than the LPs, with a milder but still boosted bass and more treble brightness and extension, and better for gaming and all-around use (including portable), but it still is more of a "fun" headphone headphone rather than audiophile in signature. The HE400, I'm guessing, has the best sound quality of all the headphones you mentioned, while also having a more audiophile "flavor." It's not going to be something you can take around campus, though. It's your choice and your taste in the end, though. Personally, I chose to buy a used Q701 and use my Crossfade LPs for a portable, but since I can't find those I'll probably on stick with... Well, I game mostly with my Q701 now.

SoAmusing777,
Welcome to Head-Fi, sorry about your wallet!
I personally say Receivers have a great long-sighted value if you can physically fit them into your gaming space. You get a decent solid-state amp, hook ups for Hi-Fi speakers, a touch of EQ for your headphones, remote, input switcher so you can keep various systems hooked up to your TV, all the sound codecs you need (like DTS and Dolby Digital), an external DAC, an fm radio tuner, etc... To be honest, you will be hard pressed to hear a difference between HDMI and Optical (it's like slightly softer, I barely make it out with my Q701s), so either should be fine. Dolby Digital is nothing to sneeze at, but of course the receiver will (probably) understand most types of DTS signals too.

To explain one thing, after the receiver, uh, receives either a DTS or Dolby Digital signal from your console, it processes the signal inside the receiver's DAC, and if you have headphones plugged in it will then simulate surround sound using a processing algorithm like Dolby Headphone, or some other manufacturer's proprietary algorithm (like Yamaha's "Silent Cinema"). If you want the Dolby Headphone version of headphone surround in a receiver, you'll have to find an older model of Harman Kardon receiver, apparently. Newer versions have HK's own version of headphone surround... which I personally haven't heard if it's better or worse.

I have a Yamaha receiver with Silent Cinema... It's pretty good, positioning is pretty accurate, though when you use DSPs it sounds like you're in a cave, of varying size. There is also Dolby Pro Logic (forget what version) as an alternative to Silent Cinema built-in... Positional accuracy isn't as good because it mixes surround from stereo audio (so that's like... 5/7.1-->stereo-->5.1-->virtual surround), but for all that it actually sounds alright. Good for RPGs and situations where accuracy isn't so important, YMMV. I haven't decided if I best like a DSP with lowered effect strength (cuz you can do that), or "straight" mode with a surround signal.

Did this answer your questions?
Edited by Evshrug - 12/1/12 at 3:04pm
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Recently picked up the MMX 300 from Beyer... Tested them against the pc350/360/330 and yes they are expensive (I got them stupid cheap on eBay) but they smoke all three hands down!! Wide soundstage great positional accuracy and very easy to drive with my mix amp or iPhone. Plus the case they come with is amazing. And for music and movies it isn't close! Mad should add them to the comparison list. I'd love to see how they would stack up
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I've read this article ( http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/comparison-beyerdynamic-dt-880-32-ohm-dt-880-250-ohm-and-dt-880-600-ohm-headphones) explaining the ohm. "As a rule of thumb, a damping factor of 10 or more is desirable for the source to be able to drive the load with authority. For example, if the amp has an output impedance of 10 ohms, you want the headphones to be at least 100 ohms or more in order for the amp to make the headphone driver move accurately with the audio signal." also realized that the dt 770 pros 250 ohm version are available for a cheaper price on Amazon.com.

 

 

 

Never mind, I think I just found the answer to plugging a mic for voice chat on PS3 using the search function in this site.

 

Although I'm still trying to decide whether to go for the DT770 or just go ahead and get the 990s. I guess I'll probably pick up whichever model is cheaper at the time since I probably won't buy it for another two months or so.


Edited by Roger de Ceiba - 12/1/12 at 3:53pm
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Can anyone recommend me a good gaming headphone that is closed, and is under $300?

The Q701 really caught my eyes, so I'm looking for something similar of that, but closed. I really don't want to disturb people while I game, but I still want the immersive feel I get when i play music or game really loud. 

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Thread Starter 
Im not too well versed on closed headphones, but the DT770s have large soundstages for closed cans, as well as the Denon D2000, D5000, and D7000 which are all discontinued but may find.
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