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Originally Posted by Trinket View Post

Hi, I have been reading this whole thread for a long while. I would like to buy a good headphone for gaming/music mostly for fun, according to reviews and user opinions the Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro or DT-990 Pro are good options.
I play on PC and own the Asus D2X, I don't want to spend much more than 150€/200$ (I live in Spain). I have found the DT-990 Pro, DT-770 M/PRO for almost the same price, 160€.
The problem with the DT-990 pro is that they are only sold with 250 ohm impedance, just Premium one's are 32 ohm and they are too expensive.
All of you suggest for the Beyerdynamics to be powered by an amp, but i don't understant that point, from what i've read, an external amp only gives you higher sound output, (or alters sound quality with it's own signature sound), I always play at night, when all is quiet, is it really worth it an amp in my case to power a 250 ohm headphone?
PD: I own a igrado headphone (use them while in the street) and if i connect them to my PC i only need 20%  volume...

The Takstar Hi2050 are only 60-Ohm, so they should work with with your current sound card and and they sell for $65, sold on eBay and shipped from Hong Kong.

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The Takstar Hi2050 are only 60-Ohm, so they should work with with your current sound card and and they sell for $65, sold on eBay and shipped from Hong Kong.


Thank you for your answer, i'm searching info for this Headphones, i have found some threads about them, it seems a good bargain. But couldn't find any reference of their soundstage or gaming performance, what do you think about it?

EDIT: Would it be near the DT-770 PRO 80Ohm? (I think my soundcard could power them, right?)


Edited by Trinket - 9/22/12 at 10:00am
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Thank you for your answer,Ii'm searching info for this Headphones, I have found some threads about them, it seems a good bargain. But couldn't find any reference of their sound stage or gaming performance, what do you think about it?

EDIT: Would it be near the DT-770 PRO 80Ohm? (I think my sound card could power them, right?)

I've not used them for gaming....yet, but they are just fine with movies & music.

I never use my DT770 80-Ohm anymore, too bassy for my 48 year old ears.

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I've not used them for gaming....yet, but they are just fine with movies & music.

I never use my DT770 80-Ohm anymore, too bassy for my 48 year old ears.

 

Ok, I have been reading about the Technical Pro HPT990/Takstar Hi2050 (most people say they are the same phones). And i'm almost sure i will get a pair of them.
Would you recommend me to buy an amp for them? Since they are so cheap i could spend a little more, i would like to know a good amp that could also power 250 Ohm headphones in case i want to upgrade in the future.

Thank you very much for your help and recomendation, it surely is a bargain from what i've read!

 

EDIT: For those also interested, you can buy them for 45$ here (Lot of people already bought from there).


Edited by Trinket - 9/22/12 at 11:22am
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Ok, I have been reading about the Technical Pro HPT990/Takstar Hi2050 (most people say they are the same phones). And I'm almost sure i will get a pair of them.
Would you recommend me to buy an amp for them? Since they are so cheap i could spend a little more, I would like to know a good amp that could also power 250 Ohm headphones in case i want to upgrade in the future.

Thank you very much for your help and recomendation, it surely is a bargain from what I've read!

 

EDIT: For those also interested, you can buy them for 45$ here (Lot of people already bought from there).

As the Hi2050/HPT990 are only 60-Ohm (and only cost $45), it's not worth it for getting an external add-on headphone amplifier.

I would say to hold off on buying an headphone amplifier, wait until your ready to sell off the D2X and just buy a new sound card with a built in amplifier.

Creative Labs is come out with new sound cards (Z series) in December and I would think other brands would also be coming out with new sound cards also.

Depending on which headphones you buy in the future might have some influence on what you get for an amplifier/sound card.


Edited by PurpleAngel - 9/22/12 at 10:40pm
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Just browsed through your guide, and would be pleased if you could reply back to this comment.  I was looking to buy a pair of gaming headsets but I know that many don't compare to actual audiophile headphones.  I'm very big on music and have been through all sorts of headphones, but have never owned a pair of gaming headsets even though I play a lot of fps on xbox 360.  I own a pair of Koss Porta Pros that are pretty new and am very pleased with them for listening to music on my phone.  I also own a pair of old Sennheiser HD 595 that I don't use as much.  I was just wondering if you have ever tired the Porta Pros or the HD 595's and what you would think of them for gaming on the 360 connected to the Astro Mixamp 5.8 or Astro Mixamp Pro?

Thank You

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Just browsed through your guide, and would be pleased if you could reply back to this comment.  I was looking to buy a pair of gaming headsets but I know that many don't compare to actual audiophile headphones.  I'm very big on music and have been through all sorts of headphones, but have never owned a pair of gaming headsets even though I play a lot of fps on xbox 360.  I own a pair of Koss Porta Pros that are pretty new and am very pleased with them for listening to music on my phone.  I also own a pair of old Sennheiser HD 595 that I don't use as much.  I was just wondering if you have ever tired the Porta Pros or the HD 595's and what you would think of them for gaming on the 360 connected to the Astro Mixamp 5.8 or Astro Mixamp Pro?

Thank You

 

The HD595 is basically the PC360 Gaming headset without the mic.  The description of the PC360 is on the front page.  The HD595s are also the previous iteration of the HD598s - also on the front page.

 

I would just use your HD595s, as they are already a very good headphone for gaming.

 

Porta Pros use the same driver as KSC35, which is listed on the front page.  (Porta Pros will sound a bit different due to the headband).


Edited by chicolom - 9/22/12 at 9:53pm
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The HD595 is basically the PC360 Gaming headset without the mic.  The description of the PC360 is on the front page.  The HD595s are also the previous iteration of the HD598s - also on the front page.

 

I would just use your HD595s, as they are already a very good headphone for gaming.

 

Porta Pros use the same driver as KSC35, which is listed on the front page.  (Porta Pros will sound a bit different due to the headband).

Thanks for the reply.  So would you suggest the HD595's connected via a Aar Force DSS (Astro Mixamp just a little more than what I'm willing to spend) over say the Ear Force DX12's and X42's?  Also when you say the Porta Pro's sound different do you mean so in a bad way?


Edited by mata944 - 9/22/12 at 11:21pm
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Thanks for the reply.  So would you suggest the HD595's connected via a Aar Force DSS (Astro Mixamp just a little more than what I'm willing to spend) over say the Ear Force DX12's and X42's?  Also when you say the Porta Pro's sound different do you mean so in a bad way?

 

Yes.  HD595 is better than anything Turtle Beach sells.  If your just doing single player and don't need chat, get the DSS.  I would get the first gen version of it though.  The DSS2 is different and not as good FWIR.

 

The Porta Pros are pushed against your ears more, so they have slightly more bass and less soundstage.  They don't necessarily sound worse though.

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Yes.  HD595 is better than anything Turtle Beach sells.  If your just doing single player and don't need chat, get the DSS.  I would get the first gen version of it though.  The DSS2 is different and not as good FWIR.

 

The Porta Pros are pushed against your ears more, so they have slightly more bass and less soundstage.  They don't necessarily sound worse though.

Yea I heard the dss was better than the dss2.  Well thank you very much for answering my questions.  I'll definitely follow through.

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just ordered the dt 990 pros..

would i need another amp aside from the mixamp to power them?

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Recommended, but not necessary per say. I do notice a bit more bass and bass response with the E11 after the mixamp, but was was seeing good results with the DT990 Pros straight from the Mixamp. That being said if I were you, I would start looking towards your amp options, and begin saving up for one if you need to.
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The E11 isn't enough to drive the 990 Pros. They'll get you a decent way there, but ultimately will still be starved for power. They deserve at least a desktop amp. The E9 or E09k are definitely enough, not the E11 which is at its limit with 250ohm with no headroom.

Its basic knowledge that 250ohm is made for home theater (receivers) and desktop amps.

People just assume because a headphone gets ear shatteringly loud off something means they're driven properly. That's false. The E5 can drive a 600ohm loudly.

The problem is voltage swings. At some points the impedance spikes to a lot more than the impedance of the headphone. I've seen swings from the HD800 jump up to almost 1000ohms.

With something like the E11, the DT990 Pros will spike up to past the E11's peak, and lose dynamics, etc. You usually want an amp with some headroom for this.

For the purpose of gaming though, the E11 will be decent. I personally would invest a little more to make sure my $200 headphones are performing up to spec at all times.

The reason I don't mind a lack of juice for the K701/Q701 when gaming, is because I'm fousing on the details with those cans, not fidelity. You don't need to fully drive them to make them gaming beasts.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 9/23/12 at 2:55am
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http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/SA/SA31/SA31EN_Specs.htm

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SS amp AND single ended. That's more than the Lyr! (6 watts ar 32ohm, while the SA31 is 10watts at 40!)

I want this...SO badly. That should power every damn headphone outside of electrostatics... and even that might work. XD

Even has options to add warmth to the amp by or two levels! Holy cow. This amp sounds freaking ideal for the Q701 AND DT990/600. Just saying.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 9/23/12 at 4:14am
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Never know he might decide to make a special edition that powers electrostatics too ;). But that is a lot of input and output connections on it. It prolly bigger in person then what it actually is in the picture.

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