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post #25786 of 25793
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Yeah, the 400i is just the polar opposite of the 400. The bass has been reduced by quite a bit, the mids are the forward aspect of its sound, and it's treble has been pared back considerably.

This irks me, because I wanted a corrected 400, not something completely different. Don't get me wrong, I very much want the 400i, but what made the 400 good has been taken away to turn it into something else entirely. Calling it the 400i is nonsense.

I know the 400 is hit or miss, but I really loved it for what it was.
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post #25787 of 25793
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Yeah, the 400i is just the polar opposite of the 400. The bass has been reduced by quite a bit, the mids are the forward aspect of its sound, and it's treble has been pared back considerably.

This irks me, because I wanted a corrected 400, not something completely different. Don't get me wrong, I very much want the 400i, but what made the 400 good has been taken away to turn it into something else entirely. Calling it the 400i is nonsense.

I know the 400 is hit or miss, but I really loved it for what it was.

Interesting.  I didn't dislike the 560 at all, it was definitely a nice headphone.  The mids weren't even recessed by much... I feel like if they just flipped that (the mids up front but not by much), it'd be perfect.  I don't know that I need the mids to be crazy emphasized.

post #25788 of 25793
Still,
The AKGs and brain burn-in do something to us, make us fairly more excited about great mids. Mad is part of that group "in the know" that the HE-400 have a lot of chops and are an amazing value, I think with an amp HE400 with the velour Earpads would satisfy and thrill many people of the typical sound character taste... I might've bought them from him if vocals were more forward and the headphones weren't the craziest most open headphones I've ever encountered! Did the HE560 change sound if your hands were within half a foot of the earcups? I found that fascinating!

The opposite of a v- or u-shaped headphone would be an n-shaped headphone, cuz, you know, it looks the most like an upside down n. A headphone like that is rare, IMO the MA900 is the most n-shaped I've heard.

I saw a pair of MA900 on the deals thread and almost jumped on it, but it was $old by the time I got there. Now I'm contemplating a K601 or K612, the former is cheaper and more impulse-worthy. Anyone know if the sound changed at all between the K601 and K612?

I have an eBay listing for the Q701 ready except for pictures, I wonder if it'd sell for a better price there or here?
post #25789 of 25793

Speaking of eBay, I'm watching something that should serve me quite well if I can score it. Not long left on the auction. Crossing my fingers that I can snag it.

post #25790 of 25793
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

Still,
The AKGs and brain burn-in do something to us, make us fairly more excited about great mids. Mad is part of that group "in the know" that the HE-400 have a lot of chops and are an amazing value, I think with an amp HE400 with the velour Earpads would satisfy and thrill many people of the typical sound character taste... I might've bought them from him if vocals were more forward and the headphones weren't the craziest most open headphones I've ever encountered! Did the HE560 change sound if your hands were within half a foot of the earcups? I found that fascinating!

The opposite of a v- or u-shaped headphone would be an n-shaped headphone, cuz, you know, it looks the most like an upside down n. A headphone like that is rare, IMO the MA900 is the most n-shaped I've heard.

I saw a pair of MA900 on the deals thread and almost jumped on it, but it was $old by the time I got there. Now I'm contemplating a K601 or K612, the former is cheaper and more impulse-worthy. Anyone know if the sound changed at all between the K601 and K612?

I have an eBay listing for the Q701 ready except for pictures, I wonder if it'd sell for a better price there or here?

The "in the know" bit was referring to the HE4, not the HE400.  Not sure what the difference btween the two is, as I mostly hear about the HE-xxx models not the HE-x ones.

 

And yeah, I totally tested that because of what you said.  It was weird!

post #25791 of 25793
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The HE-4 has little in common with the HE-400. The HE-4 is the airiest Hifiman planar outside of the 560. It sounds like a planar DT880, to be honest. The HE400 has a thicker bass and lower mids, but the dip in the upper mids to the massive treble spike afterward make it sound...different.

Evs, from what I have seen on headfi, the K602 and K612 are essentially the same sounding headphone and hard to tell apart. I believe it was Zombie who had both. Not entirely sure though.

The 612 certainly sounds just like what I envisioned the 601 to sound like based on it's graphs.
post #25792 of 25793

I might be willing to pair with my K612, MA900 or both... Fetch me a PM if interested. MA900 would be 200$ shipped, K612 would be 150$ shipped, both come in original packaging w/ all accessories [MA900 - pouch, 1/4 adapter, K612 - 1/4 adapter.]

I figured it's related :D

post #25793 of 25793
Thanks Mad. So I guess the question is, between used units, is a newer unit (with black color scheme) worth $45 more than a 5 year old unit with yellowed pads (apparently a common thing).

Meh, probably could just get the older one and new pads? Or would that end up costing more than the new one? Lol
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