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Aug 6, 2014 at 5:36 PM Post #25,156 of 48,562
What do you guys think about the Q701 compared to the HP200 for competitive gaming? The HP200 has more bass, that's all I know.. :/


Yes, HP200 has a little more bass, and slightly more present mids like the K612. Q701 has a wider soundstage, slightly more detail, but needs more synergy. Can't go wrong with either...
 
Aug 6, 2014 at 6:42 PM Post #25,157 of 48,562
Yes, HP200 has a little more bass, and slightly more present mids like the K612. Q701 has a wider soundstage, slightly more detail, but needs more synergy. Can't go wrong with either...

What is does having a wider soundstage mean ? 
 
NINJa edit~ 

They (Hp200) seem to use a different material for the ear pads. Are they any good? my ears tend to get really warm and I start to sweat quite a bit with my old headset or any heavy, closed headphones.
 
Aug 6, 2014 at 6:45 PM Post #25,158 of 48,562
Aug 6, 2014 at 9:04 PM Post #25,159 of 48,562
   
If you want virtual surround through your headphones, then yes, you'll need the Mixamp for the PS4.  Otherwise, just plug the headset right into your controller for stereo.
 
Don't know about using a Mixamp with the Vita, I don't think it'll add anything as I don't believe the Vita has optical out.
 
You CAN use the Mixamp with your PC, but you're better off just getting a cheap sound card that does the same thing.
 
Regarding the Boompro, don't worry about the resistance.  It sounds as good, if not better, than the stock cable IMO.
 
That's a really nice setup, BTW.  I say go for it!

 
thanks for the reply!
 
hmm I use a USB DAC (Audinst HUD-MX1) on my PC... don't really have a dedicated soundcard :/
 
my motherboard has the following (which I disable)
- 7.1 CH HD Audio with Content Protection (Realtek ALC892 Audio Codec)
- Premium Blu-ray audio support
 
so do I output via digital?
 
Aug 6, 2014 at 10:09 PM Post #25,160 of 48,562
Hey guys, got a question for you, that i'd say has probably been asked.. But this thread is 1,678 pages long =S lol..
 
Getting a new headset and maybe a modmic to use for pc and ps3 gaming, and eventually ps4. Probably getting the ATH-A700x as i need low sound leakage, being in the lounge room, don't want to annoy my partner =) hah. Anyway, looking at pairing this with an astro mixamp pro 2013 for $139 (I'm in Australia btw).
 
Just wanted opinions on whether there would be an alternative that would work better with the pc as well as ps3 or if I should just get a cheap sound card as well and run the headset through that when on pc? 
Thanks in advance for any advice =).
 
Aug 6, 2014 at 10:34 PM Post #25,161 of 48,562
   
thanks for the reply!
 
hmm I use a USB DAC (Audinst HUD-MX1) on my PC... don't really have a dedicated soundcard :/
 
my motherboard has the following (which I disable)
- 7.1 CH HD Audio with Content Protection (Realtek ALC892 Audio Codec)
- Premium Blu-ray audio support
 
so do I output via digital?

 
Your DAC only does USB input, which is tough.  Normally I'd suggest just grabbing a Sound Blaster Z or Omni and then outputting that to your DAC and/or Amp.  That will give you surround for gaming, plus great sound for music.  But you won't be able to use a separate sound card AND your DAC at the same time, which means switching headphone ports if you want to use both.  Given that, I'd say you should probably determine how badly you want surround gaming on your PC.
 
The Realtek sound on your MoBo is garbage. Don't bother.
 
  Hey guys, got a question for you, that i'd say has probably been asked.. But this thread is 1,678 pages long =S lol..
 
Getting a new headset and maybe a modmic to use for pc and ps3 gaming, and eventually ps4. Probably getting the ATH-A700x as i need low sound leakage, being in the lounge room, don't want to annoy my partner =) hah. Anyway, looking at pairing this with an astro mixamp pro 2013 for $139 (I'm in Australia btw).
 
Just wanted opinions on whether there would be an alternative that would work better with the pc as well as ps3 or if I should just get a cheap sound card as well and run the headset through that when on pc? 
Thanks in advance for any advice =).

 
Yep, this was addressed just a page ago.  The Mixamp isn't really great for PC gaming.  If you can afford it, get a Mixamp for console and a separate sound card for PC gaming.  I am a big fan of the Sound Blaster Omni or Z (same thing, just USB vs PCIe).  Others prefer the Asus.
 
Aug 6, 2014 at 10:45 PM Post #25,162 of 48,562
  Yep, this was addressed just a page ago.  The Mixamp isn't really great for PC gaming.  If you can afford it, get a Mixamp for console and a separate sound card for PC gaming.  I am a big fan of the Sound Blaster Omni or Z (same thing, just USB vs PCIe).  Others prefer the Asus.

 
Sorry, should've read back a bit haha. That card is probably a little over my budget, how's the asus xonar dg?
 
Aug 6, 2014 at 10:56 PM Post #25,163 of 48,562
   
Your DAC only does USB input, which is tough.  Normally I'd suggest just grabbing a Sound Blaster Z or Omni and then outputting that to your DAC and/or Amp.  That will give you surround for gaming, plus great sound for music.  But you won't be able to use a separate sound card AND your DAC at the same time, which means switching headphone ports if you want to use both.  Given that, I'd say you should probably determine how badly you want surround gaming on your PC.
 
The Realtek sound on your MoBo is garbage. Don't bother.

 
guess I'll leave it disabled then (realtek)
 
hmm. can I still get "faux surround" on my X1 (when I buy it) if I were to output via my USB DAC?
I use the old AE AegoM 2.1 for my usual gaming... but I guess earphones help...
 
but if I'm okay with switching ports - there shouldn't be any issues right?
USB DAC for Music
Separate Sound Card for Movies/Games
(now there's the issue of how to plug my speakers)
 
how bad is the Mixamp Pro for PC Gaming? - it's bad in terms of sound quality or compatibility ?
 
Aug 6, 2014 at 11:50 PM Post #25,164 of 48,562
   
guess I'll leave it disabled then (realtek)
 
hmm. can I still get "faux surround" on my X1 (when I buy it) if I were to output via my USB DAC?
I use the old AE AegoM 2.1 for my usual gaming... but I guess earphones help...
 
but if I'm okay with switching ports - there shouldn't be any issues right?
USB DAC for Music
Separate Sound Card for Movies/Games
(now there's the issue of how to plug my speakers)
 
how bad is the Mixamp Pro for PC Gaming? - it's bad in terms of sound quality or compatibility ?

An audiophile USB DAC won't support virtual surround sound (generally). If your onboard card supports Dolby Digital Live then it can send that signal to the mixamp so you can get the correct Dolby Headphone experience. Plugging in the Mixamp via USB to the PC will only get you Stereo, and enabling DH with a stereo signal is not a thing to do since it's just stereo with reverb.
 
The thing to do is to get a sound card that outputs CMSS-3d, Dolby Headphone, or any of the other virtual solutions and to optionally connect that to an amp and then to your headphones.
 
Aug 7, 2014 at 12:49 AM Post #25,165 of 48,562
  An audiophile USB DAC won't support virtual surround sound (generally). If your onboard card supports Dolby Digital Live then it can send that signal to the mixamp so you can get the correct Dolby Headphone experience. Plugging in the Mixamp via USB to the PC will only get you Stereo, and enabling DH with a stereo signal is not a thing to do since it's just stereo with reverb.
 
The thing to do is to get a sound card that outputs CMSS-3d, Dolby Headphone, or any of the other virtual solutions and to optionally connect that to an amp and then to your headphones.

 
thanks! guess I would need to look at buying a decent amp :/
would it work if I get a soundcard that outputs CMSS-3D, Dolby Headphone, etc and output that to the Mixamp Pro? - would that work or would that actually degrade sound quality?
 
and I guess I can only buy the Mixamp Pro 2013 right - I heard the older models were better but not available anymore?
 
Aug 7, 2014 at 1:26 AM Post #25,166 of 48,562
   
thanks! guess I would need to look at buying a decent amp :/
would it work if I get a soundcard that outputs CMSS-3D, Dolby Headphone, etc and output that to the Mixamp Pro? - would that work or would that actually degrade sound quality?
 
and I guess I can only buy the Mixamp Pro 2013 right - I heard the older models were better but not available anymore?

It would work but the Mixamp itself isn't a great "amp" and won't really add anything to the sound and possibly make it sound worse, which is why a lot of us have them connected to dedicated amps when we're playing console games.Basically if you're only doing pc games then avoid the mixamp altogether and just grab a capable and inexpensive sound card and (if you feel the need for) a dedicated amp. 
 
Aug 7, 2014 at 2:05 AM Post #25,167 of 48,562
Hi,

I am new to this forum and i am happy to found this great thread.
I also get a new headphone something like K702.

I am building a new PC and i search for a good soundcard for gaming (70%) music (30%).
I am not sure what i should pick,i heared from more sources that the ZxR havn't the best
sound and i am not sure about the Asus ROG Xonar Phoebus. Is the stx(2) also good enought
in games or (only) good in sound and is the stx2 worht for 40e more?
 
Aug 7, 2014 at 2:54 AM Post #25,168 of 48,562
  It would work but the Mixamp itself isn't a great "amp" and won't really add anything to the sound and possibly make it sound worse, which is why a lot of us have them connected to dedicated amps when we're playing console games.Basically if you're only doing pc games then avoid the mixamp altogether and just grab a capable and inexpensive sound card and (if you feel the need for) a dedicated amp. 

 
I see... may I know which dedicated amps are you guys using with your consoles now? ^^
 
Aug 7, 2014 at 2:59 AM Post #25,169 of 48,562
Hi,

I am new to this forum and i am happy to found this great thread.
I also get a new headphone something like K702.

I am building a new PC and i search for a good sound card for gaming (70%) music (30%).
I am not sure what i should pick,i heard from more sources that the ZxR haven't the best
sound and i am not sure about the Asus ROG Xonar Phoebus. Is the STX(2) also good enough
in games or (only) good in sound and is the stx2 worth for 40e more?

 
Asus Xonar STX/ST and STX II and Phoebus and SB-ZxR, use the same class of DAC chip (PCM179X) and the same TI 6120A2 headphone amplifier chip.
So audio quality may only be very minor in differences (if really noticeable).
It might come down to the Creative SBX Headphone feature verses the Asus Dolby Headphone feature.
 
Aug 7, 2014 at 3:02 AM Post #25,170 of 48,562
   
I see... may I know which dedicated amps are you guys using with your consoles now? ^^

 
An Astro Mix-amp ($130?) daisy chain with a Schiit Magni headphone amplifier ($99), should allow you to use just about any headphone you might like.
 

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