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SoundMAGIC HP200, AKG K612 PRO

Any idea where the dt990s fall in with the 2 listed above? Similar?
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Hey guys!

 

I'm new to head-fi and this thread and i've been checking it out since i want to buy a pair of headphones for gaming/music. I've decided on the akg k712 pro's and i'm going to pair it up with the astro mixamp 2013 with my ps4 and a clip-on mic. Is it necessary to get an amp for the k712 and if i do (thinking of getting the schiit magni), would i benefit from the schiit stack (amp+dac) and will it work with the mixamp? If i get a splitter for the digital output on the ps4 wil i hear any difference?

 

This exact question was just asked a page or two back.  You can't use the Modi with the Mixamp (technically you can, but there's no reason to as you'll lose surround).  Your choice is better sounding stereo or surround with a sub-par DAC.  Many people, myself included, think that there's no much point in putting a good DAC on for gaming anyhow since the source material will tend to be not great.  Save your money and just stick with the Magni.

 

As to whether you need that, get the setup without it first.  If you can get the volume levels to where you want without the Magni then you're golden.  If you need more volume, you know what to do.

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This exact question was just asked a page or two back.  You can't use the Modi with the Mixamp (technically you can, but there's no reason to as you'll lose surround).  Your choice is better sounding stereo or surround with a sub-par DAC.  Many people, myself included, think that there's no much point in putting a good DAC on for gaming anyhow since the source material will tend to be not great.  Save your money and just stick with the Magni.

As to whether you need that, get the setup without it first.  If you can get the volume levels to where you want without the Magni then you're golden.  If you need more volume, you know what to do.

This is funny because I was reading his sentences and thought that I has wrote it... Funny how similar we are in regards to all this. Anyways! I thought that Madlustenvy wrote before that you WON'T loose 7.1 once it's put into play. If this is the case I would consider the Stack if it would take over the DAC from the mix amp and be better
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This is funny because I was reading his sentences and thought that I has wrote it... Funny how similar we are in regards to all this. Anyways! I thought that Madlustenvy wrote before that you WON'T loose 7.1 once it's put into play. If this is the case I would consider the Stack if it would take over the DAC from the mix amp and be better

 

No you can't use the Modi with the Mixamp and retain surround otherwise everyone would be doing it.  The Modi is great if you want to listen to music right from your device (console or PC) but not for surround.

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Hey guys, 

 

Im wondering do the pre 2013 (older 2010/2011 year) wired mixamps work with the PS4 for sound/chat? 

 

Thanks. 

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This is funny because I was reading his sentences and thought that I has wrote it... Funny how similar we are in regards to all this. Anyways! I thought that Madlustenvy wrote before that you WON'T loose 7.1 once it's put into play. If this is the case I would consider the Stack if it would take over the DAC from the mix amp and be better

The Magni is an amp, the Modi and Mixamp both are DACs (Digital to Analogue Converter), they take digital audio from your source (Console or PC) and turn it into analogue for amps and headphones. If you want accurate surround you have to have the Mixamp (Processor/DAC/Amp unit) plugged into the console's optical output. The Modi is higher quality but it doesn't have the surround processing capability (Dolby 7.1 to stereo Dolby Headphone Virtual Surround) of the Mixamp.

It's not just you, it's generally the same question every other day, which is why some of us who've been here awhile talk about new games or new headphones we're trying.



Jason Bourne,
Pretty much all the Mixamps will work the same way with PS4, you buy a Turtle Beach PS4 chat cable:
http://www.turtlebeach.com/product-detail/cables-parts/ps4-chat-cable/464
And plug that inbetween the controller and Mixamp.

The Recon3D USB from creative is actually able to use it's USB to get chat audio from the console itself (a more streamline'd option IMO), but any headphone over 32 ohms you'll have less piercing highs if you plug an amp into the output of the Recon3D USB.
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I need to demo a pair of the Soundmagic HP200. I've read that they have a similar tonality to the HE-400 and I very much like the hifimans. Plus the HP200 have the benefit of being compatible (after a little modding) with the BoomPro so portable gaming would be simpler, though not so much with my home setup.

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The Magni is an amp, the Modi and Mixamp both are DACs (Digital to Analogue Converter), they take digital audio from your source (Console or PC) and turn it into analogue for amps and headphones. If you want accurate surround you have to have the Mixamp (Processor/DAC/Amp unit) plugged into the console's optical output. The Modi is higher quality but it doesn't have the surround processing capability (Dolby 7.1 to stereo Dolby Headphone Virtual Surround) of the Mixamp.

It's not just you, it's generally the same question every other day, which is why some of us who've been here awhile talk about new games or new headphones we're trying.



Jason Bourne,
Pretty much all the Mixamps will work the same way with PS4, you buy a Turtle Beach


If you have a pc, you can get a stx which has a dac and has dolby headphone!

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If you have a pc, you can get a stx which has a dac and has dolby headphone!

If you have a PC, there are many more options. The only thing is he specifically said he needed a PS4 solution.
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Originally Posted by LordCheeseballs View Post
 

Hey guys!

 

I'm new to head-fi and this thread and i've been checking it out since i want to buy a pair of headphones for gaming/music. I've decided on the akg k712 pro's and i'm going to pair it up with the astro mixamp 2013 with my ps4 and a clip-on mic. Is it necessary to get an amp for the k712 and if i do (thinking of getting the schiit magni), would i benefit from the schiit stack (amp+dac) and will it work with the mixamp? If i get a splitter for the digital output on the ps4 wil i hear any difference?

Mixamp itself is a dac so only a Magni will be necessary, You can use either the mixamp or the modi but not both at the same time, If You want to play in stereo go with modi

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SoundMAGIC HP200, AKG K612 PRO

Thanks. I'll see if I can I look into them too. The K612 having non-detachable is quite discouraging though.

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Jason Bourne,
Pretty much all the Mixamps will work the same way with PS4, you buy a Turtle Beach PS4 chat cable:
http://www.turtlebeach.com/product-detail/cables-parts/ps4-chat-cable/464
And plug that inbetween the controller and Mixamp.

The Recon3D USB from creative is actually able to use it's USB to get chat audio from the console itself (a more streamline'd option IMO), but any headphone over 32 ohms you'll have less piercing highs if you plug an amp into the output of the Recon3D USB.

 

Thanks for the info. Appreciate it. 

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Originally Posted by Jason Bourne View Post
 

 

Thanks for the info. Appreciate it. 

Wired mixamp can use usb for chat too

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If you have a PC, there are many more options. The only thing is he specifically said he needed a PS4 solution.


Just saying mate!

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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post

I need to demo a pair of the Soundmagic HP200. I've read that they have a similar tonality to the HE-400 and I very much like the hifimans. Plus the HP200 have the benefit of being compatible (after a little modding) with the BoomPro so portable gaming would be simpler, though not so much with my home setup.

You trying to give me a hint? wink.gif

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Thanks. I'll see if I can I look into them too. The K612 having non-detachable is quite discouraging though.

Then the HP200 is the way to go!
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