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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post
 

 

I buy pretty much every bundle. They support good charities, GamesAid and Make-A-Wish this time, and I usually get some games out of it as well. I get a lot of duplicates so I usually pass out the codes when I can.

I usually do too.  This time though, I'm $13k in the hole (hooray, home ownership!).  And I have a pretty hefty backlog of previous HB games.  And there are like a zillion good games coming out starting in Sep.

 

Man I'm glad I have a sweet headphone setup for all this gaming.  Thanks again, MLE, Evs, Axel, Change, Chico and everyone who's been helpful in this thread!  My wallet and wife hate you, but that's okay.  

 

:k701smile: 


Edited by Stillhart - Yesterday at 4:26 pm
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You're very welcome, Stillhart. Glad you are enjoying the experience. I think I deserve the most hate, though tongue.gif

So, what are your plans with the M-Stage now that you are loving the 15?
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Interesting thread, i have followed through the last year or so, and I saw here the best headphone for gaming had several hypermarkets, there were some months of MA900, the month of X1, the month of K612, Q702 and now HP100/200 ..... Which will be the next best headphone for gaming? biggrin.gif
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Interesting thread, i have followed through the last year or so, and I saw here the best headphone for gaming had several hypermarkets, there were some months of MA900, the month of X1, the month of K612, Q702 and now HP100/200 ..... Which will be the next best headphone for gaming? biggrin.gif

Ha! You think this thread has an influential hypermarket? Try the "Discovery" thread... tongue.gif
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Ha! You think this thread has an influential hypermarket? Try the "Discovery" thread... tongue.gif

I don't want spend more money swimming on hyper beach, i'm quite satisfied with fantastic MA900/Mixamp/C5amp. Now my next mark will be something like HD800 for gaming/movies/music, has anyone played with them, what's the opinion?
Edited by pack21 - Yesterday at 4:50 pm
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I think Fegefeurer has owned the HD800, he's in here every few days. From reviews, I'd bet that the soundstage and competitive advantage would be great, but gun sounds could get fatiguing and you might get frustrated with how the bit-quality of games kinda "caps out."

I'd like to add that the MA900 was great, I really liked some parts of it (and some part of me is still looking for magical mids like that again), but it didn't replace my q701's and shared similar strength's as what I went to the AD700 for. These DT880 are god-mode analytical, but they lack too much mids and I don't think they'll stay. I still have my Q701, I also picked up the K712 as a refinement of that formula, but I respect the K612 and if I was budget crunched and had to start over I would first buy a K612 as an all-around headphone. The HE-400 never caught on for my tastes.
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I'm telling you, Ev! You really should give the HP100 a try... or even the new HP150.

P.S. Stop holding sentimental value and put up some of that gear for sale, already! tongue.gif
Edited by Change is Good - Yesterday at 5:18 pm
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I don't think HP100 can beat A700x.

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Based on what I've read about the A700x... yuck... especially comfort wise...
Edited by Change is Good - Yesterday at 5:38 pm
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I think Fegefeurer has owned the HD800, he's in here every few days. From reviews, I'd bet that the soundstage and competitive advantage would be great, but gun sounds could get fatiguing and you might get frustrated with how the bit-quality of games kinda "caps out."

I'd like to add that the MA900 was great, I really liked some parts of it (and some part of me is still looking for magical mids like that again), but it didn't replace my q701's and shared similar strength's as what I went to the AD700 for. These DT880 are god-mode analytical, but they lack too much mids and I don't think they'll stay. I still have my Q701, I also picked up the K712 as a refinement of that formula, but I respect the K612 and if I was budget crunched and had to start over I would first buy a K612 as an all-around headphone. The HE-400 never caught on for my tastes.


If you want more magical and even better mids than the MA900, I would look at either the HD 600 or HD 650. The lush richness of their mids and vocals is just a pleasure to listen to. It took a few auditions of them for me to really like their sound but now after hearing them more, I think the HD 650 is going to be my next headphone and it may replace my K712 as my main headphone. The MA900 was too lacking in refinement for me sadly.

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You're very welcome, Stillhart. Glad you are enjoying the experience. I think I deserve the most hate, though tongue.gif

So, what are your plans with the M-Stage now that you are loving the 15?

 

I've been meaning to post it on the classifieds, just been busy.  There's always talk about it in the Q701 thread so I'm sure someone will pick it up relatively quickly.

 

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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

I think Fegefeurer has owned the HD800, he's in here every few days. From reviews, I'd bet that the soundstage and competitive advantage would be great, but gun sounds could get fatiguing and you might get frustrated with how the bit-quality of games kinda "caps out."

I'd like to add that the MA900 was great, I really liked some parts of it (and some part of me is still looking for magical mids like that again), but it didn't replace my q701's and shared similar strength's as what I went to the AD700 for. These DT880 are god-mode analytical, but they lack too much mids and I don't think they'll stay. I still have my Q701, I also picked up the K712 as a refinement of that formula, but I respect the K612 and if I was budget crunched and had to start over I would first buy a K612 as an all-around headphone. The HE-400 never caught on for my tastes.

 

I've heard that the HD800 can be really picky with gear pairings.  I wonder if some of the fatiguing highs could be compensated for...

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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

 

I've been meaning to post it on the classifieds, just been busy.  There's always talk about it in the Q701 thread so I'm sure someone will pick it up relatively quickly.

 

 

I've heard that the HD800 can be really picky with gear pairings.  I wonder if some of the fatiguing highs could be compensated for...


The HD 800 is picky and takes effort to get to sound right. I've heard the HD 800 stock without fatiguing highs and a good bass response, the easiest way is probably to get a tube amp and tube roll and/or hook it up to warmish and darkish sounding gear, but it can't be too warm or dark it may hurt the soundstaging, so it's a careful balancing act to get it right. I personally don't think it's worth the trouble as I always found it a boring and overly technical listen regardless. Although if one is a soundstage lover and gets most musical pleasure from the soundstage and imaging or someone who likes a really technical sounding headphone it's probably the ideal headphone for them. I personally get the most listening pleasure from tone and musicality.


Edited by kman1211 - Yesterday at 7:10 pm
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Well, this picky and synergy thing surely made a few millions in very few pockets.

 

You don't need the HD 800 if you're just gaming. Total waste. If you play games, watch movies and music then yes, very recommended.

 

I recommend the HD 800 if you play on the PC as it allows for much better setup ideas and combinations and generally much cleaner SQ. On consoles you could have a similar clean experience if you play in stereo since you can bypass the Mixamp and others and use your regular DAC/AMP to the fullest. Nobody here will recommend it though for good reasons.

This will change the day we get a VST device that outputs binaural stereo like Creative/ASUS soundcards do. 

 

A few "cheaper" DAC/AMPs or setups I liked with the HD 800 were Matrix M-Stage + X-Fi Titanium HD, Asus Xonar Essence One (fed optical with a Z and THD). Fantastic setups actually, already giving you quite the HD 800 experience.

 

I don't see any problems with getting fatigued unless you use CMSS-3D and have to experience bad sample quality like Bioshock Infinite. SBX is very fine and imo the very best out of all others for the HD 800. Both a wonderful match. 

 

I'll list you a few headphones that are more fatigueing to my ears from easierst to worst:

 

DT880 600 borderline (to fatigueing or too bright) but very slightly towards the good side

DT990 600 borderline, slightly towards the bad side

T90 unfortunately badly balanced up top, noticable worse than the other two, feels like an overlooked flaw, a pity as it has a superb soundstage 

Pro 2900 - can become pretty painful, exciting at first, especially for its kickbass but sooner or later you'll sell it

Pro 900 - definitely painful and superbly fatigueing

 

If you can stand the DT880 600 then the HD 800 is easy for you. Don't be afraid about "picky" and synergy. A "lower cost" setup will already give you more than any other headphone could replace or do better. The biggest and most accurate soundstage of them all, no matter if games, movies, music (it's especially exciting with music), a very well extended bass that has tactility (sp?) and impact, enormous detail while being very very clean with ultra low distortion.

 

The only problem is VST devices and digital outputs, that's why it's best on PC (technical reasons, not speaking about gaming choices)

 

Any other headphones? Well, TH-900 for marvellous (sub) bass, great soundstage (though smaller), very clean and detailed and runs pretty good off the Mixamp alone and works very well with DHP. Unfortunately very expensive. 

 

I can see the HE-560 being another "upgrade" option but my time with it was limited and only spent with music (I really liked it). 


Edited by Fegefeuer - Today at 4:06 am
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I just got my Q701s in the mail (but in the wrong color :(), is it worth looking into the K712s if I can get them for a decent price? Or should I just stick with the Q701s for now? Decisions, decisions.

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