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Hey guys,

I'm from Brazil, here we don't have as many options as you guys from Europe or USA... I did a research around the stores here and I found these over-ear options:

 

- AKG K240 MKII for R$499,00

- Sennheiser HD558 for R$679,00

- Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro for R$749,00

- Sennheiser HD598 for R$949,00

- AKG Q701 for R$1059,00

- Sennheiser HD600 for R$1399,00

 

Based on price (since I want budget-wise solution) what would be the best option? I'm looking for a solid all-rounder gaming headphone, not concerned with competition gaming but aiming for immersion. You can make your own suggestions, of course, but I'll need to search for them here in Brazil. :(

 

EDIT: Price correction.

558 will be fine

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I think the 990 Pro would be the better choice for immersion, assuming they're okay with a strong treble output. The 558 is great, but still wouldn't be one of my recommended picks for immersion and all around gaming. It'd be leaning more towards competitive.

If the Sony MA-900 could be found in Brazil for a good price, I'd recommend that the most.

If you can deal with the Q701's price... perhaps try also ordering some 65th Anniversary pads for it, which will DEFINITELY be my top recommendation out of your list, assuming you can afford it all.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 7/8/14 at 1:58am
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I find that IEMs are just not all that great. They're good for some music listening when I don't want to carry my M80s around and a heck of a lot better for when I'm laying down as I tend to lay on my side but otherwise, they're not all that great. My GR07 Bass Editions are quite enjoyable for EDM and such played from my phone when I'm not at home.

IEMs tend to strain my ears a bit when I'm listening. For gaming, I would recommend against anything with harshness as gunshots will be really hard on the ears. I don't find that IEMs have much soundstage at all and gaming competitively is just torture with in ears because it's hard to hear where sounds are coming from.

Comfort is bad with IEMs for me. My ears can get itchy, irritated, sore, etc when I wear them for a while. I can never find the best tips for my GR07s. Silicone gives off the best sound but doesn't isolate much and isn't too comfortable whereas comply foams just completely ruin the sound. I'm also a clean freak so I have to clean the insides of my ears before I use IEMs so that I won't have to clean them later.

For some reason, when I wear in ears and I'm watching a YouTube video in which someone is talking, my ears tend to... seize up or something. Not even sure how to describe it but it's like my ears are trying to block out noise and it's kind of worrisome.

Tl;dr IEMs are okay for some situations but overall aren't worth the discomfort for me.

 

Disagree on gunshots being harsh but that is pretty subjective and gunshots being louder is better for competitive gaming as louder makes it easier to locate where the sound comes from. I personally don't have comfort issues with my Etymotic ER-4P IEMs but that has come from a lot of experience in how to insert them and to what depth. Some people seem to have reactions to anything touching their ears and that isn't solely an IEM issues. Comply tips have no effect on the sound if the foam is not covering the sound bore and they offer even better isolation and comfort to some people. They can be expensive though.

 

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It'll be a cold day in hell when I expand to IEMs, no offense. I hate IEMs.

 

Fair enough but the only headphones I can tolerate for gaming are the Sennheiser HD 800 after extended use of my ER-4P. The imaging on the K702 and HD 600 just sounds blurry to me now. I'll consider buying the Noble Kaiser 10 as a flagship comparison but I don't think I can stomach the cost, fit issues and low resale value.

 

Another thing that people should consider whe using open headphones is building a PC that is quite. Fan noise is noticably distracting to me.


Edited by Dreyka - 7/8/14 at 2:21am
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I live in a perpetual state of fan noise, and I've used open headphones since the beginning. I've learned to mentally block my fans out regardless. I can't live without a fan. Even with something as open as the MA900 or HE-400, fan noise really doesn't bother me.
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Disagree on gunshots being harsh but that is pretty subjective and gunshots being louder is better for competitive gaming as louder makes it easier to locate where the sound comes from. I personally don't have comfort issues with my Etymotic ER-4P IEMs but that has come from a lot of experience in how to insert them and to what depth. Some people seem to have reactions to anything touching their ears and that isn't solely an IEM issues. Comply tips have no effect on the sound if the foam is not covering the sound bore and they offer even better isolation and comfort to some people. They can be expensive though.

I can confirm that they do have an effect on the sound and I've seen many people say the same with the Complys and the GR07 on the GR07 tips thread. They seem to absolutely kill the highs. I make sure to insert them correctly and push the foam back away from the center plastic piece on the tips. On my JVC HA-FX40s, however, the Complys greatly improved the sound.
Edited by grumpy1471 - 7/8/14 at 2:27am
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I agree. It's not very loud, in fact my PS3 super slim makes a far more irritating high pitched fan noise, it's something that just 'disappears' when you're fully immersed in a game.
Much like the AC that's on during hot days.
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I live in a perpetual state of fan noise, and I've used open headphones since the beginning. I've learned to mentally block my fans out regardless. I can't live without a fan. Even with something as open as the MA900 or HE-400, fan noise really doesn't bother me.

I always have fan noise from my PC, PS4 or Xbox 360 on one side of my room and the noise from my air purifier on the other side (which also doubles as a fan on hot days). When I have everything off, it's just too quiet tongue.gif
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Removed.


Edited by TenMoonsNorth - 7/8/14 at 3:15am
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http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/comply-foam-tips-and-effects-tip-selection

Measurements showing marginal differences. If it sounds muffled it is because the sound bore is being covered by the foam.

There's a lot of debate on the subject from what I've seen. Not really on topic with the thread though lol. I've tried so many different ways of inserting them and nothing seems to make a difference. Maybe foams aren't meant for me.
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Foam tips are the only tips I can live with on IEMs, but on every IEM I've owned, it has killed the highs, and made things overly bassy. And yes, I've inserted them correctly. I just have bad luck with IEMs.
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does anyone know if the turtle beach tac will come in a wireless solution as well. kinda like the mixamp 5.8. i wouldn't want to go back to wired headphones but would love to be able to also get dts signals decoded to a headphone surround system. especially for blu-ray or dvd which i often have to decode to dd 5.1 beforehand so i can watch/hear them with my mixamp.

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does anyone know if the turtle beach tac will come in a wireless solution as well. kinda like the mixamp 5.8. i wouldn't want to go back to wired headphones but would love to be able to also get dts signals decoded to a headphone surround system. especially for blu-ray or dvd which i often have to decode to dd 5.1 beforehand so i can watch/hear them with my mixamp.

 

I have the official press release and it doesn't mention wireless for the TAC, but it also doesn't implicitly state that it's wired-only either. But knowing Turtle Beach's announcements and the gaming market as a whole, wireless is a big buzz word so if it were going to be wireless I would imagine they'd be sure to point that out. It was a short while after the Mixamp came out that Astro introduced the Mixamp 5.8, so assuming the TAC does well we may see them evolve the product down the road to allow wireless transmission. If wireless is a must, you may be able to pair the TAC with an external wireless transmitter like this one from FiiO. There are others on the market but that's a good starting point.

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thx @axelcloris for your input. yeah i figured they would explicitly say "wireless" in the press release and as i now saw the first picture of the device it looks like the wired mixamp 2013 without a receiver device. hope they'll add a wireless one in the future!

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thx @axelcloris for your input. yeah i figured they would explicitly say "wireless" in the press release and as i now saw the first picture of the device it looks like the wired mixamp 2013 without a receiver device. hope they'll add a wireless one in the future!

 

Wireless would be a strong addition, but I'm glad they skipped it in the first generation TAC. That will allow them to focus on the integration of the core tech and work out any bugs before moving into the wireless realm which will only open the possibility for more issues. My preference for devices like this is sound quality first and convenience second. Besides, if they sell a bunch of first gen wired TACs then release a wireless version 8 months to a year later that'll bring in a lot of revenue for Turtle Beach.

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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

I think the 990 Pro would be the better choice for immersion, assuming they're okay with a strong treble output. The 558 is great, but still wouldn't be one of my recommended picks for immersion and all around gaming. It'd be leaning more towards competitive.

If the Sony MA-900 could be found in Brazil for a good price, I'd recommend that the most.

If you can deal with the Q701's price... perhaps try also ordering some 65th Anniversary pads for it, which will DEFINITELY be my top recommendation out of your list, assuming you can afford it all.

Hi MLE, which headfone can be even better than MA900, for imersion and SS\3D perception on games like BF4?

They seems awesome for me, but if exist even better i would like to check.


Thx
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