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I found the Audio Technica ATH-AG1 and ADG1 as I was scouring the web and was wondering if anyone has any experience with them. Not sure how well they'd perform in surround. Since they are from a good company already and not just a gaming company, I would have no clue how well they stack up against the gaming headsets out there or my Astro A40s.

Edit: Also found the Beyerdynamic MMX300 and not sure about those either.
Edited by grumpy1471 - 4/13/14 at 9:52am
post #22892 of 25558
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Originally Posted by Napalmhardcore View Post

 

One thing you've not really covered is how important virtual surround is to you. If it is important, I'd suggest checking out the videos at the beginning of the guide as well as some of the ones on Youtube which compare some of the technologies available.

 

Ultimately, it is up to you to make the decision as to what you buy. The people here will be willing to help you, but you have to ask the right questions, such as what kind of sound signature are you looking for? How important is the trade-off between bass and pure positional accuracy etc?

 

Welcome to Head-fi :) 


Thanks man!

 

I hear what you're saying, but as I said; I'm an audio newbie...I'm just after something with great sound and works with the setup I described above. Virtual surround is fine as long as it sounds up to par, as for bass and positional accuracy - I'd say a middle ground, but positional accuracy would be a little more important considering their use.

 

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If you want one solution that you can easily swap back and forth with your current PC setup, get a recon3d USB. Its the only surround processor I know that you can use on PC with no sound card or on console.

After that, any headphone and mic combo will work fine. X1 and boonpro is a solid choice as are many others (gameone etc).

 

Oh wow that's interesting - I hadn't seen the Recon3D USB before. I'll keep it in mind as it doesn't say anything about the Xbox One, but includes the others.

 

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@Sentinus

There's a reason why no one mentions the Siberia Elite, because at $200... no one cares.

 

Had a brief listen to it and a Superlux Evo 681 is still a better all around heapdhone than the Elite and it's only a quarter of the price. Considering it is a closed headset, the bass is shy. There very little impact to it, when it does it feels slow and hollow. I do not like how the mids are so artifically forward, almost as if it was purposely EQ'd that way and the treble lacks energy, despite being smooth.

 

The biggest problem? The comfort. The earpads are memory foam IINM, but they just aren't supple enough. My jaws started hurting after 15 minutes, I wouldn't wanna know how numb my jaw would be after an hour. The pleather looks to be of low quality too and something that would tear within a year of usage, though this is a personal assumption.

 

Nice that the Elite comes with Dolby Headphone, but a Xonar U3 costs $35 so whatever. I did not test the mic, but there are plenty of youtube recordings with the mic and needless to say, they're barely passable.

 

So there you go, you want a Siberia, then just stick with the v2 and buy a Xonar U3.

 

I see! This is what I've been after - when you read reviews online and watch youtube clips, they all give the Elite really good reviews. This is why it's important to have you guys (people in 'the know' audio-wise) review them...I'd be none the wiser otherwise. I wouldn't go for the Siberia's, despite the following they have gathered...compared to the other options they don't seem at the same standard.

 

I'm still no closer, other than pretty much eliminating the Elites, lol.

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I'm still no closer, other than pretty much eliminating the Elites, lol.

We now know that positional audio is important, XB1 compatibility must be accounted for and you'd,prefer a neutral sound signature (although, like in my case, it sounds like you haven't the experience to know what kind of sound signature you like). This will help the people here to help you, so you're a little closer :)

 

Knowing that positional audio is important means you'll need something with a decent soundstage. This most of the time means an open back headphone (though there are exceptions). I also think that sooner or later you may be interested in a virtual surround processor, but we'll take it one step at a time. That being said, sometimes a device such as a Mixamp will open up the possibilities of what you can connect to (I believe the Mixamp works with all the consoles).

 

From you're previous post I can also tell that a mic is important. Finding a mic solution is one of the biggest reasons I came to be on this thread and your choice in headphone will have a bearing on mic compatibility (some headphones have proprietary connections or non removable cables which affect BoomPro compatibility).

 

In terms of PC audio, I think most people here will likely recommend a sound card or DAC. The advantage of a sound card is that many include some form of virtual surround, so even if you are not particularly interested in it now, it is there for if you do become interested in future.

 

I haven't much experience myself but thought I'd impart some of what I've learned in my time here. I'm personally looking to go the X1, Mixamp, Boom Pro route myself. I've had to hold off on pulling the trigger as another financial consideration has cropped up. With the X1 I still have a little doubt in my mind, as ideally, I wanted something with a neutral signature. But being fairly new to all this, I've not owned enough headphones to have found what I like or dislike, so it seems like a chance to broaden my knowledge in that regard. Hope this has helped :)


Edited by Napalmhardcore - 4/13/14 at 9:07pm
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After a lot of reading and research (and some more reading and some more research) i've decided to buy OG CAL and DSS (1). 

Thank you all for the help. I'll post my insights after i'll test them out (will take some time).

Peace :)

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 Elder scrolls online is a extra $14.99 a month on top of your xbox live or psn+!

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^ well that's old news! ;D

Never ever paying that though...
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Elder scrolls online is a extra $14.99 a month on top of your xbox live or psn+!

 

That's one reason why it should be played on PC. Another is the addon system and the fact that it's easier with K/M. You can use a gamepad with it but it's slightly clunky.

 

If there are any ESO PC gamers, hit me up and we'll party some time.

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That's one reason why it should be played on PC. Another is the addon system and the fact that it's easier with K/M. You can use a gamepad with it but it's slightly clunky.

 

If there are any ESO PC gamers, hit me up and we'll party some time.


It costs $180 a year..not worth it!

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It costs $180 a year..not worth it!

 

I can understand someone not viewing $180/year as worth it. But from my perspective, it's absolutely worth it. For me MMOs prevent me from buying new games as frequently since I'm investing more time into the MMO and not plowing through a game like AC4 or Watch Dogs every month. Also, I adore ESO; I have since October when I received my beta invite. I feel that it's a nice middle ground between being an Elder Scrolls title and mixing in the MMO aspect.

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It costs $180 a year..not worth it!

 

Well, that's pretty subjective when we're on an audio enthusiast forum where people will spend A LOT more money to get that 1% improvement in sound. When I played WoW pretty actively a few years back, I didn't have a ton of money and needed something to keep me entertained most of the time. For ~$12 a month, I got a lot of time and enjoyment out of the game. I didn't buy many other games because that one kept me busy. It was a great bargain IMO. When I look back on that and UO, I know I will probably never get that kind of enjoyment out of a game again. It makes me a bit sad. So even without the cost, the experiences I had are more or less priceless to me. 

 

I can't speak for ESO (and I'm pretty burned out on MMOs regardless), but I've read some good things about it, so it's not out of the realm of possibility of it being worth it for some people. 


Edited by Murder Mike - 4/14/14 at 7:54am
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Runescape... Oh how much time I sank into that game...
Well I too stopped a few years back but it was a massive blast!
Maybe one day again ;P
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Well, that's pretty subjective when were on an audio enthusiast forum where people will spend A LOT more money to get that 1% improvement in sound. When I played WoW pretty actively a few years back, I didn't have a ton of money and needed something to keep me entertained most of the time. For ~$12 a month, I got a lot of time and enjoyment out of the game. I didn't buy many other games because that one kept me busy. It was a great bargain IMO. When I look back on that and UO, I know I will probably never get that kind of enjoyment out of a game again. It makes me a bit sad. So even without the cost, the experiences I had are more or less priceless to me. 

 

I can't speak for ESO (and I'm pretty burned out on MMOs regardless), but I've read some good things about it, so it's not out of the realm of possibility of it being worth it for some people. 

I have pre-ordered watchdogs and will be getting the division..not that bothered about elder scrolls online now..i buy 2 games a month..i just hope they don't do it with fallout 4..i have a gaming pc with two 7990s and 84 inch sony 4k tv and pioneer susano av receiver with 8.2 s81 speakers that i built for playing the battlefield games!

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^ bragging rights! rolleyes.gif
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^ bragging rights! rolleyes.gif

I was just answering this part conquerator 2 "Well, that's pretty subjective when were on an audio enthusiast forum where people will spend A LOT more money to get that 1% improvement in sound."

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I was just answering this part conquerator 2 "Well, that's pretty subjective when were on an audio enthusiast forum where people will spend A LOT more money to get that 1% improvement in sound."

So... You spend a lot of money for all electronics then? biggrin.gif
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