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Oh can you please link me to the new AKG product? I hope that this headset is compatible with PS3 as I am a console gamer, more importantly that the headphone has a rather neutral sound quality.

 

Oops, it seems my memory failed me this time. I thought that the headset shown above was a new AKG replacing their old GHS-1 but I'm confusing AKG with Plantronics. Sorry. The image is the newer Plantronics RIG system. It's still only stereo, it doesn't handle any form of DSP. I had wanted to hear the old GHS-1 but not at the prices Amazon is currently charging. You could pick them up much cheaper before they were discontinued.

post #21782 of 26223
Hello to all,

From a newbie on console gaming sound configuration.

I would like to get advise; I play stricktly XB1 console games, especially FPS, looking for a good setup for positioning in game.

Following the advises on this thread, I have ordered a set of Q701.

But what is the best way now, to connect it to get the best surround sound for great positioning?

Do I need to buy an outside amp; like the Astro Mix-Amp? And is this the best tool available for the money?

In case it can help; I have an outside Cambridge DAC and an old Yamaha DSP A970; can this be used, instead of an Astro mixamp? I know it decodes Dolby Pro Logic from an anolog source thru the speakers setup, but not sure it generate Dolby from the headphone jack?

I also own an older Stax headphone set, but the amp unit is only analog, so I suspect it is only stereo.

Sorry for all those questions, but sometime it seems so confusing, about how and what could be the best setup for console gaming sound.

Finding the best headphone, is great thru reviews, but finding how to make them work at its best, is difficult to understand.

Thanks in advance
post #21783 of 26223
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Originally Posted by Boubos View Post

Hello to all,

From a newbie on console gaming sound configuration.

I would like to get advise; I play stricktly XB1 console games, especially FPS, looking for a good setup for positioning in game.

Following the advises on this thread, I have ordered a set of Q701.

But what is the best way now, to connect it to get the best surround sound for great positioning?

Do I need to buy an outside amp; like the Astro Mix-Amp? And is this the best tool available for the money?

In case it can help; I have an outside Cambridge DAC and an old Yamaha DSP A970; can this be used, instead of an Astro mixamp? I know it decodes Dolby Pro Logic from an anolog source thru the speakers setup, but not sure it generate Dolby from the headphone jack?

I also own an older Stax headphone set, but the amp unit is only analog, so I suspect it is only stereo.

Sorry for all those questions, but sometime it seems so confusing, about how and what could be the best setup for console gaming sound.

Finding the best headphone, is great thru reviews, but finding how to make them work at its best, is difficult to understand.

Thanks in advance

 

I think you'll find that most people in this thread will happily recommend the Mixamp.  As I'm sure you noticed, there are a few alternatives mentioned in the guide, including the Creative Recon3D.  I happened to find one of these on super sale for $5 so I've been using that.  I actually prefer the THX sound to DH, but I seem to be in the minority with that.  It's all about what works best for your brain/ears.

 

You may find that you want additional amping with the Q701 and the Mixamp/Recon.  There are some good options in the guide, though I haven't personally used any of them yet.  I've amped mine through my AVR and noticed the benefits.

 

I'm still deciding whether or not to get a dedicated headphone amp for my setup.  I can use my AVR to amp out of the Recon, but I'll need to get an optical switcher.  Ones that aren't complete garbage cost like $40 and even those aren't great.  Small jump from there to a $100 dedicated amp...

post #21784 of 26223

Can someone link me to a good optical switch?

 

want to connect my 5.8 to my PS4 and Xbox One

post #21785 of 26223
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Can someone link me to a good optical switch?

 

want to connect my 5.8 to my PS4 and Xbox One

This is the latest one I was considering:  www.amazon.com/ViewHD-TOSLINK-Digital-Optical-Switcher/dp/B00G188Z7A  This is an active switch, I believe, so you need to make sure it supports the right audio formats (it claims all are supported...).  I like the fact that this one has an IR port so you can program the switching right into your Harmony Remote!

 

For my use, I actually want a splitter.  A passive switch works both ways, but an active switch is one way so I'd need a splitter not a switch (I want the Xbox output to split to AVR and Recon).  For you, it sounds like a switch is the way to go.

 

EDIT - BTW, I haven't used these yet.  I can't vouch for the quality.  Still deciding whether to get one or just get a headphone amp.

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A little off topic, but what do you guys use for watching movies?  I current use:

 

I have a pair of Grado RS1 (Open style), which are really good on music. I am in the market for something to allow me to hear surround sound thru them. Primarily using a DirectTV Genie box that has optical coax out, HDMI and RCA stereo. I also have a Musical Fidelity X-Can v2 headphone amp I can use. So what are you using to accomplish this? Surround sound....  Astro Mixamp 2013?  Astro Mixamp 2011, 5.8? Recon 3D?

 

I may also be getting a PS4 here shortly to watch BluRay thru

post #21787 of 26223

So basically what I've taken from this thread is most actual "gaming" headsets are terrible for gaming? haha

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So basically what I've taken from this thread is most actual "gaming" headsets are terrible for gaming? haha
Kinda... By comparison, we'd always recommend another option.

Some gaming headsets are decent, but you can always get better sound from a good regular headphone at a lower price. Add $3 lapel mic from Amazon and you'll have a flexible high quality system.

I'm picking up a PS4 tonight, any requests for streaming material? biggrin.gif
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So basically what I've taken from this thread is most actual "gaming" headsets are terrible for gaming? haha

One of the reasons I found my way to this thread is because I was highly suspicious of paying $300 for the Astro A50 just because a bunch of gamers said it was the "best gaming headset on the market".  I'm very suspicious of hearsay when it comes to spending that much money.  It turns out my suspicions were well-founded.

 

That said, I've tried the PLYR1 and they're not bad.  Not in the same ballpark as my Q701, but decent for an all-in-one wireless solution.

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So basically what I've taken from this thread is most actual "gaming" headsets are terrible for gaming? haha

 

In addition to what Evshrug and Stillhart have said, if you really want a headset you can easily make one. MLE has a list of headsets with detachable cables on the main page that work with the V-Moda BoomPro and Beyerdynamic COP microphones. Buy one of those mic cables and the headphones, use them together, and you have an instant headset. No messy additional cables. The most common pairing I've seen in this thread is the Philips X1 with the BoomPro. I'll be using the BoomPro with the Philips L2 later on this week to see how the combination is.

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In addition to what Evshrug and Stillhart have said, if you really want a headset you can easily make one. MLE has a list of headsets with detachable cables on the main page that work with the V-Moda BoomPro and Beyerdynamic COP microphones. Buy one of those mic cables and the headphones, use them together, and you have an instant headset. No messy additional cables. The most common pairing I've seen in this thread is the Philips X1 with the BoomPro. I'll be using the BoomPro with the Philips L2 later on this week to see how the combination is.

 

Oh speaking of which, you lose the advantage of those if you want to use surround (Mixamp, etc) on the Xbone. You need to split the output anyways to have the headphone going to the Mixamp and the mic into the controller, so it's not as big of a deal to have the Boompro.

 

I'm discovering that manging the cables is easier with one long cable to my Recon and one short one from the mic to the controller (rather than one medium one with a splitter and then two more).

post #21792 of 26223
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Kinda... By comparison, we'd always recommend another option.

Some gaming headsets are decent, but you can always get better sound from a good regular headphone at a lower price. Add $3 lapel mic from Amazon and you'll have a flexible high quality system.

I'm picking up a PS4 tonight, any requests for streaming material? biggrin.gif

So pro gamers use and push gaming headsets cause of endorsements I'm guessing?

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So pro gamers use and push gaming headsets cause of endorsements I'm guessing?

Well obviously. Or sponsorships. Or both.
Either way, it's a shame. It's just like the celebs wearing Beats.
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So pro gamers use and push gaming headsets cause of endorsements I'm guessing?

Well, of course.  You think LaDanian Tomlinson actually uses Visio TV's?  They're garbage.  Tiger and Peyton drive Buicks? Yeah RIGHT!  Always take professional endorsements with a large helping of salt (not just a grain).

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Umm, Vizio tvs are garbage? Where do you come up with that conclusion? Just because you've seen their lower end models at Walmarts? Vizio makes excellent TVs as well. You can get mid-high tier performance for a mid-tier price, whereas other companies offer mid-tier performance for a higher price.

I have a high end Panasonic plasma (VT60), and that still doesn't keep me from seeing how good Vizio sets can be, especially their higher end offerings.

All brand name manufacturers all have crappy TVs too. You get hit and miss with all companies.

As for gaming headsets, why are they used? Simplicity? You get everything you will ever need with some headsets. It keeps setups from getting messy. It's convenience. Sure, they'll never be as good as a headphone and separate amps, mics, etc, but that adds clutter, more hassle, etc. Some people don't want to deal with all that. They just one the simplest solutions, and headsets tend to be just that.
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