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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

I just found this on Monoprice:  http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=104&cp_id=10423&cs_id=1042302&p_id=2946&seq=1&format=2

 

It's a 3-way optical switch, which should let you switch your input from PS3 to PC with the flip of a switch.  You won't be able to listen to both simultaneously, but I don't think that's what you were asking.

 

I may use this to setup my system like this:

 

Xbox->Switch->Recon->AVR (for Amping)->Headphones

Xbox->Switch->AVR->5.1 Speakers

 

This lets me use the AVR as a headphone amp to boost the output of the Recon, while easily letting me use it for regular speakers as well.  My current setup will let me use the AVR and the Recon at the same time, but the AVR comes before the Recon so I can't use it to amp.

 

Actually I think Hedonism was wanting both to play together. Chicolom owns this puppy and I recall him saying that it can have multiple sources active simultaneously, allowing for a mix of the two/three/four. Downside is that it's RCA and 1/8" only, so you'll need to have the right connections for it.

post #21752 of 26220

Hi,

 

I listen to a lot of music, a little bit of everything, from rock to pop, from blues to metal, from alternative to folk. Oh, and classical and choral music when I'm working or relaxing.

 

Basically, Led Zeppelin, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Cranberries, Coldplay, Beatles, Queen, Eddie Vedder, Eric Clapton, Dire Straits, SOAD, Iron Maiden, Mumford and Sons + classical music + recent hits.

 

I can get the HD650s used (bought last December from Amazon.fr) for 250€. On the other hand, the HD600s cost me about 270/280€ new, shipped from there too. Which ones would you recommend to me?

 

I must state I'll also be doing gaming and plan on pairing the headphones up with a ZxR soundcard or this new iteration of the Essence STX.

 

The guy who is selling me the HD650s also has the HD598s for sale for 100€, and I arranged an audition of the two headphones with him. Do you think the 598s can complement the HD650s in any way, or if I buy the 650s there should be no point in getting the HD598s too?


Edited by Manel - 3/15/14 at 8:20pm
post #21753 of 26220
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No I didn't mean that, I was just saying that some dacs have adc as well as dac conversion.. I think Evshrug has said that they won't be any sound with a dac to a mix amp combo anyway, but thanks for taking the time axel!
That's not what I was saying, let me try again to clarify:
A typical DAC can only convert a stereo signal to stereo analogue. So if a console sends DDL 5.1 to a Bifrost, you're gonna have a bad time.

A Mixamp will take a digital surround signal (Dolby Digital Live 5.1, which is actually a bit compressed to fit in the bandwidth of an optical cable), use a DSP (Digital Signal Processor) to convert that DDL signal to a stereo signal specially processed with DH (Dolby Headphone) to sound like a 5.1 speaker setup, then the Mixamp uses it's DAC (Digital to Analogue Converter) to convert the stereo specially mixed with DH into stereo analogue, and then amps it (a bit) so the user can control volume.


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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post

Actually I think Hedonism was wanting both to play together. Chicolom owns this puppy and I recall him saying that it can have multiple sources active simultaneously, allowing for a mix of the two/three/four. Downside is that it's RCA and 1/8" only, so you'll need to have the right connections for it.
Thanks for finding that, I forgot what it was called or where it could be bought.

Incidentally, both the Mixamp and DSS have auxiliary stereo 3.5mm inputs, designed to allow gamers to play music while gaming, but you could feasibly add any stereo analogue audio to the "mix." That doesn't solve Stillhart's puzzle (the accessory you linked does), but just sharing for everyone's info smily_headphones1.gif

[so, just to confuse Martin Vegas since there would be no point in doing this, with a Mixamp's aux analogue input you technically could connect a bifrost's analogue output to the Mixamp, but you wouldn't want to because the audio quality would be cut down to the Mixamp's quality level.
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I just found this on Monoprice:  http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=104&cp_id=10423&cs_id=1042302&p_id=2946&seq=1&format=2

It's a 3-way optical switch, which should let you switch your input from PS3 to PC with the flip of a switch.  You won't be able to listen to both simultaneously, but I don't think that's what you were asking.

I may use this to setup my system like this:

Xbox->Switch->Recon->AVR (for Amping)->Headphones
Xbox->Switch->AVR->5.1 Speakers

This lets me use the AVR as a headphone amp to boost the output of the Recon, while easily letting me use it for regular speakers as well.  My current setup will let me use the AVR and the Recon at the same time, but the AVR comes before the Recon so I can't use it to amp.

Had two of those switches... and they both messed up.
post #21755 of 26220
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Had two of those switches... and they both messed up.

Good to know.  The reviews on Amazon seem to say the same thing.  There's a $15 one on Amazon that looks similar but has fewer bad reviews...

 

Might just stick with my current setup and drop $100 on a Magni and be done with it.

post #21756 of 26220
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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

Good to know.  The reviews on Amazon seem to say the same thing.  There's a $15 one on Amazon that looks similar but has fewer bad reviews...

 

Might just stick with my current setup and drop $100 on a Magni and be done with it.

 

As long as you don't catch the bug that's going around, as of late... upgrade-itis

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As long as you don't catch the bug that's going around, as of late... upgrade-itis

 

Frickin' hate that bug. I have the T1s coming, the Alpha Dogs coming, and still I ordered a pair of Philips L2s from Italy. But hey, at least I've sold a bunch of ones I haven't used in a while. Though it sucks to be sitting here for the moment with the HD650s as my main headphones. Believe me they're no slouch, but new toy syndrome can be a bitch.

post #21758 of 26220
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As long as you don't catch the bug that's going around, as of late... upgrade-itis
It's RAAAAAAAMPant!!!!


P.S. Is anybody getting weird pics/adds when trying to click things in the mobile version of the site? I got this when I tapped the "quote" button to Change's post:
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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post
 

 

Frickin' hate that bug. I have the T1s coming, the Alpha Dogs coming, and still I ordered a pair of Philips L2s from Italy. But hey, at least I've sold a bunch of ones I haven't used in a while. Though it sucks to be sitting here for the moment with the HD650s as my main headphones. Believe me they're no slouch, but new toy syndrome can be a bitch.

 

You got it bad, my friend! :veryevil:

 

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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post


It's RAAAAAAAMPant!!!!


P.S. Is anybody getting weird pics/adds when trying to click things in the mobile version of the site? I got this when I tapped the "quote" button to Change's post:

 

Yea, I've been getting pop-ups on my phone when visiting head-fi, as well. Even with a pop-up blocker on my Nexus 5, they still manage to open a new window in my chrome browser...

post #21760 of 26220
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As long as you don't catch the bug that's going around, as of late... upgrade-itis

Don't worry, I have a wife and baby.  It'll be DAYS before I think of spending more...

 

I mean, I'm definitely not thinking about getting a sound card for my PC so I can swap my headphones back and forth.  I'd be CRAZY to think about keeping both the X1 and the Q701 so I don't have to swap as much.  And only an idiot would consider getting a Magni and a Vali just to hear the difference and then keep both because they need an amp on the Xbox and the PC.

 

Yes, sir, I'm good to go.  No updrade-itis here...

post #21761 of 26220
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Don't worry, I have a wife and baby.  It'll be DAYS before I think of spending more...

 

I mean, I'm definitely not thinking about getting a sound card for my PC so I can swap my headphones back and forth.  I'd be CRAZY to think about keeping both the X1 and the Q701 so I don't have to swap as much.  And only an idiot would consider getting a Magni and a Vali just to hear the difference and then keep both because they need an amp on the Xbox and the PC.

 

Yes, sir, I'm good to go.  No updrade-itis here...

 

There are many, here on head-fi, that have wives and kids. Axel even just bought a house, I think... and look at him...

 

You just wait... it's very contagious... :evil:

 

Better amps to consider for the Q701 are the Matrix M-Stage, Schiit Asgard 2, and iFi Micro iCAN... :evil::veryevil::evil: 


Edited by Change is Good - 3/15/14 at 11:40pm
post #21762 of 26220
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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post
 

 

There are many, here on head-fi, that have wives and kids. Axel even just bought a house, I think... and look at him...

 

You just wait... it's very contagious... :evil:

 

Better amps to consider for the Q701 are the Matrix M-Stage, Schiit Asgard 2, and iFi Micro iCAN... :evil::veryevil::evil:

Oh you're SO not helping.  >.<

 

Also, I read in the Vali thread that I'm better off spending more on a DAC than an amp or cans because you can't amplify lost sound.  So Bifrost Uber if I'm going to upgrade.  Then maybe a Valhalla.  Not that I've researched that at all...

post #21763 of 26220
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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

Don't worry, I have a wife and baby.  It'll be DAYS before I think of spending more...

 

I mean, I'm definitely not thinking about getting a sound card for my PC so I can swap my headphones back and forth.  I'd be CRAZY to think about keeping both the X1 and the Q701 so I don't have to swap as much.  And only an idiot would consider getting a Magni and a Vali just to hear the difference and then keep both because they need an amp on the Xbox and the PC.

 

Yes, sir, I'm good to go.  No updrade-itis here...

 

And... I have the Asgard 2 on my desktop... and the M-Stage in the living room where my PS4 is...

 

Guess that makes me an idiot:o 

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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

Oh you're SO not helping.  >.<

 

Also, I read in the Vali thread that I'm better off spending more on a DAC than an amp or cans because you can't amplify lost sound.  So Bifrost Uber if I'm going to upgrade.  Then maybe a Valhalla.  Not that I've researched that at all...

 

Glad I could help! :evil:

post #21764 of 26220
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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post
 

 

And... I have the Asgard 2 on my desktop... and the M-Stage in the living room where my PS4 is...

 

Guess that makes me an idiot:o

 

Glad I could help! :evil:

I'm still in my research phase.  We'll see how big of an idiot I am in a few more weeks.  Either way, I hope to be a more educated idiot by the time I'm done with the first pass of buying stuff.

 

Then hopefully I can enjoy it all for a bit before... The CRAVING sets in...

post #21765 of 26220

PS4 audio help.

 

Audio output Troubles with headphones.

I am having trouble getting the right settings as I did with the ps3 for headphones/mic.

PS3 >optical cable >Victor SU-DH1 dolby amp >ATH-A900 headphones (PS3 settings to optical out).
Headset mic setting was for chat to come through the headphones.


PS4
I have tried multiple settings, but the choices seem slimmer than on the PS3.

PS4 > optical cable > Victor SU-DH1 dolby amp > ATH-A900 headphones.


1). sound comes out from both the TV and headphones (kludge fix -turn down the TV or mute it).

2). Yes, I know the supplied mic is .......bad.
I have tried the different audio settings and party chat - but couldnt seem to find a way to output chat to my main headphones, if i set it to All audio the game audio only comes out of the Chat Mic piece. (kludge fix - have the ear piece inside my main headphones).

___________________

 

Any help/ideas or do I have to wait for a future PS4 update?

 

Thanks

expat.

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