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post #21331 of 26206
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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

Well, since MS announced that they're not going to have virtual surround through the controller in the Titanfall patch, I'm considering running a long cable across the room to my AVR for DH.  Should I be worried about sound degradation if I get a 15' extension cable from Monoprice?

 

This will be used to run my (incoming) X1's through my HK AVR340.  Alternatively, I was thinking about grabbing a wireless Mixamp, but I strongly suspect the wireless will degrade sound quality more than a long cable.  Also it's like $100 more.

 

On a side note, if this works out well, I may buy a Q701 to see how it compares to the X1.  Since I'll be running it through my AVR, the Q's need amplification shouldn't be a problem.  I'd then sell off the one I like less.

 

I have a Marantz AVR with DH and use long cable runs.  I have 3 monoprice "designed for mobile" cables; a 10' M/M, a 6' F/M ext, and a 12' F/M ext.  I've used both extension lengths on the X1 and the Annies and haven't noticed any difference in quality.  I remember asking about cable length when I got my AVR last year and I believe MLE told me the increase in length shouldn't be a problem.

 

Hope that helps!

post #21332 of 26206
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Originally Posted by damstr View Post

I currently have DT990 Pro's 250ohm and I'm looking to get another headset that's easier to drive and sounds just as good or better. What would you all recommend?

I don't like being tethered to an amp all the time if you know what I mean.

The X1. 

post #21333 of 26206
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Originally Posted by Vader2k View Post
 

 

I have a Marantz AVR with DH and use long cable runs.  I have 3 monoprice "designed for mobile" cables; a 10' M/M, a 6' F/M ext, and a 12' F/M ext.  I've used both extension lengths on the X1 and the Annies and haven't noticed any difference in quality.  I remember asking about cable length when I got my AVR last year and I believe MLE told me the increase in length shouldn't be a problem.

 

Hope that helps!

That helps a lot, thanks!  Does your Marantz drive the Annies well without any additional amping?

post #21334 of 26206
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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post
 

 

They significantly widen the soundstage, allowing the added bass/warmth ample room to excel. And... did I mention it improves the detail and clarity, as well? 

I have the K702 pads on the K612s and I just can't agree with that...

To my ears, it did add bass but it threw the imaging out of place and the clarity deteriorated...

I wish it had the same effect as it had on you cause they were incredibly comfy...

My ears must be malfunctioning :frown:

post #21335 of 26206
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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

That helps a lot, thanks!  Does your Marantz drive the Annies well without any additional amping?

Yeah, to me it does fine.  I don't have a lot of experience with headphone amps (I've only owned a Magni, which I used to double-amp the Annies off the Mixamp).  But MLE owned a Marantz AVR for a while back when he had his Annies and he felt they were adequately driven.

post #21336 of 26206
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post

I have the K702 pads on the K612s and I just can't agree with that...
To my ears, it did add bass but it threw the imaging out of place and the clarity deteriorated...
I wish it had the same effect as it had on you cause they were incredibly comfy...
My ears must be malfunctioning frown.gif

I dare you to try them again...

I'm not the only one with these impressions. Plenty others have reported a larger soundstage when switching to K702 pads, on both the K612 and K601.
Edited by Change is Good - 2/27/14 at 3:36pm
post #21337 of 26206
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I dare you to try them again...

I'm not the only one with these impressions. Plenty others have reported a larger soundstage when switching to K702 pads, on both the K612 and K601.


Larger but not necessarily better to some people. I prefer the soundstage with stock pads personally, it's more accurate in it's imaging to my ears.


Edited by kman1211 - 2/27/14 at 3:55pm
post #21338 of 26206
I'm a bit of a soundstage head, so to me its the other way around. I've been hearing better detail with the angled pads, and have also noticed better positional accuracy (when gaming) due to the increased soundstage.

With the stock pads, it just seems a bit congested, now. Not all people, however, are crazy about larger than average soundstages. So I understand your point of view.

Maybe the increase in bass is throwing you guys off when it comes to detail on the rest of the frequency? To me, not only does it have an increase in quantity, but the quality is much better, also. Mind you, my ears gave grown accustomed to the 1540, so bass doesnt get in the way of detail and imaging like it used to.
Edited by Change is Good - 2/27/14 at 4:16pm
post #21339 of 26206
After a bit of comparing back n forth, I see why you guys are under the impression that the K702 pads cause the K612 to lose some clarity and detail.

The mids and highs have been pushed back a little, they are not as much "in your face" as they are with the stock pads. Granted, I believe this is due to the wider soundstage. The thickness of the pads do this, naturally, as your ears are now further away from the drivers. I believe the thickness is what also causes the tighter and stronger bass impact.

Also, since your ears are now further away from the drivers... these are now even harder to drive. Increase the volume when compared to stock, and the detail and clarity is still there. A bit "smoother," so to say, and not as harsh as it was before.

So... I guess it is a matter of preference, then...
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Edited by mikaveli06 - 2/27/14 at 8:39pm
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My X1 arrived this morning, 11 hours after ordering, brilliant Amazon UK.  I got a Fisual f-Flex 1.5m cable as well as I was told the supplied one wasn't great (looks fine to me).  No idea when the Mixamp will turn up but I had a quick listen straight from my iPad and they still sounded great, I think they may be comfortable for a long period too which will be a first.  The ATH M50s got my ears very very hot.

post #21342 of 26206
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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post

I'm a bit of a soundstage head, so to me its the other way around. I've been hearing better detail with the angled pads, and have also noticed better positional accuracy (when gaming) due to the increased soundstage.

With the stock pads, it just seems a bit congested, now. Not all people, however, are crazy about larger than average soundstages. So I understand your point of view.

Maybe the increase in bass is throwing you guys off when it comes to detail on the rest of the frequency? To me, not only does it have an increase in quantity, but the quality is much better, also. Mind you, my ears gave grown accustomed to the 1540, so bass doesnt get in the way of detail and imaging like it used to.


I agree with you on the soundstage part.. I noticed that with my arcam r dac, straight away the soundstage was much wider and more precise even when i was watching youtube.. on one of the adverts someone was shouting at someone from the other side of the road and it sounded like he was on the other side of the road..it makes the directional audio more convincing!


Edited by martin vegas - 2/28/14 at 6:26am
post #21343 of 26206

http://peter.family-rill.de/Projekte/Umbau-Philips-SBC-HD1502

 

Dude is modding the Philips Dolby Headphone Device (accepting DTS/AC3) with better opamps and signal path and adds Line Out. If you're lucky you get such a device for cheap. 

post #21344 of 26206
Hey guys wondering if someone could shed some light on a few things for me, tried sifting through the previous posts for an answer but can't really find anything. I'm a bit new to the headphone scene recently bought a pair of AKG K545's from Amazon due to a sale in the UK. Wanted to get a mix amp and use this with my ps4 but as far as I'm aware I would need to get a seperate mic such as the Zalman or Modmic.

Few questions:
1. Is it not possible to use the mic cable that comes with the headphones for voice chat or is that not compatible? As I understand the V moda mic acts much in the same way being a cable use instead of the normal headphone cable

2. If I purchased a attachable mic, would I have to buy a Y adapter in order to use this with the mixamp?

3. How would I then set this up in the ps4 settings to have the mic work and the headphones with the 5.1 surround soon?

4. Finally, is the mix amp better than the turtle beach dss2? Could only find comparisons with the original dss, not really bothered about price just wanted the best sound quality and chat options.

I apologise for seeming obtuse or asking alot of questions , I'm very new to this stuff and any help would be appreciated thanks.
post #21345 of 26206
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So I got my A30s in. Definitely better. It no longer sounds completely anemic and one sided. Still I'd take the Slyr over the A30s any day of the week. The A30s don't even remotely come close to the DNA On Ear, which is basically a huge improvement in every single aspect, from what I'm hearing. Still, it's gonna take me some time to get to reviewing these. I'll be starting my DNA On Ear review soon.

Now having the BoomPro, the DNA just makes a clear choice over the A30s for me. Obviously completely different price ranges, but there's no reason for me to own the A30s. They work, and I'll probably sell them for cheap.

The good thing is that they're pretty comfy. The DNA is overall decent in comfort, but after a prolonged period of time, my ears get real sore from the pleather. The A30s could suit me as a backup headset when the DNA starts hurting though I don't count on it, and I have a much more comfortable headset in the waiting to review as well (Ultrasone HS15, thanks to @calpis). The HS15 doesn't suit my tastes either, but it's stupid comfy.



For now, as mains, I'll be using the DNA Pro (not in the picture) as my main can for most purposes. Its broken, but ghetto fixed with tape, so I'll be using it until it dies. Too good a headphone to give up, and better than anything else I have. I do like the On Ear a little more in terms of immersion (moar bass), but that's a flavor thing.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 2/28/14 at 10:24am
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