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Originally Posted by driftaholic View Post
 

Between the shure 1840's and the AKG K791 Anny's which had the most ear room?

Probably the AKGs.

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Thanks for that!

 

I also want to share my appreciation for this thread in general it opened my eyes to hi end headphones and getting great positional audio in games.

 

So far I've owned:

Some crappy turtle beaches

AKG Q701

DT-990 Pro 250

Sony MA900

AKG K712Pro

 

I've settled on the 712 Pro it has surprisingly better rear positioning to me then the sony and much smoother bass. I heard a bit of distortion in the sony's.

 

My dumbo ears touch the divers on all of these cans. It doesn't seem like I'll get any long term comfort without stepping up to a 2x the price set of headphones :(


Edited by driftaholic - 1/14/14 at 12:24pm
post #20043 of 26181
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Originally Posted by driftaholic View Post
 

Thanks for that!

 

I also want to share my appreciation for this thread in general it opened my eyes to hi end headphones and getting great positional audio in games.

 

So far I've owned:

Some crappy turtle beaches

AKG Q701

DT-990 Pro 250

Sony MDR500

AKG K712Pro

 

I've settled on the 712 Pro it has surprisingly better rear positioning to me then the sony and much smoother bass. I heard a bit of distortion in the sony's.

 

My dumbo ears touch the divers on all of these cans. It doesn't seem like I'll get any long term comfort without stepping up to a 2x the price set of headphones :(

I wanna chime in too.

AKG K612 Pro [not in the guide, but for the price is my #1, if you have the amp for it]

Sony MDR-MA900

Philips Fidelio X1

Audio Technica ATH-W1000X [likes amping too, though for the price, not recommended]

[see sig..]

 

I have big ears too!

My ears touch the Sony MA900 [not terribad though], K612s [surprisingly comfortable although they touch my ears], and W1000X [stock pads]

The Fidelio X1 and W1000X [HiFiMAN pleather pads] don't touch my ears.

The X1 might be worth a shot, really. Mighty comfy!

post #20044 of 26181
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

Seems like your impressions of the K612 are made up of a bunch of different AKG headphone impressions. The K612 mids may be a bit more forward than average, but they still have the very common dip below line-level dB, and midbass rises above line-level and doesn't sharply drop off the dB as bass extends into the sub region – overall the K612 has the smooth shallow v-shape common in high-fi headphones. The older K701, K702, and Q701 headphones had bumps in the headband that were pretty firm and caused some people discomfort (me too, in longer listening sessions), BUT the K612 has no bumps to it's headband, so it should shape to your head and feel more comfortable than most headphones.

From what I've read and my AKG experience, I'd recommend the K612 over the HD598. While they both have a decent Frequency Range balance, the K612 is more "fun" and energetic while the HD598 is more "laid-back," perhaps feeling oddly "removed" from the energy of Metal. The K612 wins in comfort unless you like more clamp, the HD598 headband is also more rigid and hard. Some people really love the Sennheiser experience, they do make great headphones, but I would recommend AKG.

I bet you're like me, you research things for a looong time before you settle on a choice, but once you make that choice you are very satisfied with it. I waited a few years to get my first AKG, and Let's not talk about how long I waited to get my first car that wasn't a hand me down... But take it from experience and do yourself a favor, wait a few weeks to make sure a desire isn't an impulse, but if you take too long and research turns into stalling tactics, you'll make your head spin. Eventually you have to be decisive, and you'll be glad you did smily_headphones1.gif

Sounds exactly like me! Get too many different thoughts/opinions in my head and it makes the decision extremely hard!

DJ found me a place where I can get the k612s shipped for $224 or so. Can't really beat that price. The HD598s I found used for $180-220 used.

Any negative to not being having a removable cable? I know with the more costly headphones people like to change them out for better quality cables which I don't see me doing. But is there ever any worry of cables failing?

Lastly what would be a recommended amp/DAC combo to add to my SB Z to make the 612 sound best? won't be right away so I will have to deal with SB z for a while.
post #20045 of 26181
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Sounds exactly like me! Get too many different thoughts/opinions in my head and it makes the decision extremely hard!

DJ found me a place where I can get the k612s shipped for $224 or so. Can't really beat that price. The HD598s I found used for $180-220 used.

Any negative to not being having a removable cable? I know with the more costly headphones people like to change them out for better quality cables which I don't see me doing. But is there ever any worry of cables failing?

Lastly what would be a recommended amp/DAC combo to add to my SB Z to make the 612 sound best? won't be right away so I will have to deal with SB z for a while.

No, the K612 cable feels pretty solid. Only pretty much what you said - can't replace it, though I believe you can send them for recabling somewhere, should you want.

Audio GD DAC/amps are pretty good, Matrix M-Stage with the DAC module is pretty good too [my current setup for the K612s]

Or EHP-O2/Xonar DX, being the cheapest good setup.

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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post
 

 

Man, I didn't know. Glad to hear everything was successful.

 

@Joe Bloggs, can FiiO please manufacture a device (with a Dolby Headphone processor and chat capability) that will blow the other competition away?!? I know you can do it! I mean, you are FiiO!!! Everyone who agrees quote me with a +1 That should grab they're attention

+1

 

Edit: Im late to the party, also posted in the thread. Thanks a lot Chico for making it. Who knows, maybe 2015 will be the year FiiO breaks into the gaming market. 


Edited by davisman - 1/14/14 at 1:56pm
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For the guys having trouble using the mic with their DSS. Remember that you can always try THIS.

post #20048 of 26181
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post
 

No, the K612 cable feels pretty solid. Only pretty much what you said - can't replace it, though I believe you can send them for recabling somewhere, should you want.

Audio GD DAC/amps are pretty good, Matrix M-Stage with the DAC module is pretty good too [my current setup for the K612s]

Or EHP-O2/Xonar DX, being the cheapest good setup.

 

Ok I think I will get the k612s then. 


Audio GD NFB 15.32 is what I was looking at getting which is out of stock right now. But I won't be getting an amp for a little while anyways so they should be back in stock by than. Shipping and border costs is another PITA! Not looking to spend over $250-300

 

Haven't checked out the Matrix yet so I will do that. 02 looks pretty good too, so many decisions. As for the Xonar, I'm going to be rocking the SB Z because from what I've reviewed their surround is much better which is why I chose it. Hopefully it's good enough to get my through till I pick up an amp though...

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Ok I think I will get the k612s then. 


Audio GD NFB 15.32 is what I was looking at getting which is out of stock right now. But I won't be getting an amp for a little while anyways so they should be back in stock by than. Shipping and border costs is another PITA! Not looking to spend over $250-300

Haven't checked out the Matrix yet so I will do that. 02 looks pretty good too, so many decisions. As for the Xonar, I'm going to be rocking the SB Z because from what I've reviewed their surround is much better which is why I chose it. Hopefully it's good enough to get my through till I pick up an amp though...

I think it should.
If going for an amp only, you can get the older Mstage.
If going for an amp/DAC get the new one with the usb module.
Audio gd compares well too so it's really just a matter of what you want.
The SB should keep you occupied meanwhile.
The 612 does rather well off weaker sources too.
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Originally Posted by Naingolann View Post
 

For the guys having trouble using the mic with their DSS. Remember that you can always try THIS.

Does that actually work with the PS4 though? I don't want to waste time and money into another connection that doesn't work properly.

 

BTW, this page is 1337! I also ordered a replacement y-split cable for my BoomPro. I want to test out another cable before I order the mixamp.


Edited by DADDYDC650 - 1/14/14 at 2:40pm
post #20051 of 26181
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post


I think it should.
If going for an amp only, you can get the older Mstage.
If going for an amp/DAC get the new one with the usb module.
Audio gd compares well too so it's really just a matter of what you want.
The SB should keep you occupied meanwhile.
The 612 does rather well off weaker sources too.

As long as the SB Z will power it moderately for now I will definitely get the k612s, I just don't want them to sound bad right when I get them.

 

As for amp vs. amp/DAC I'm still trying to decide which route to go. I want something that can connect optically into SB Z or just an amp to connect via headphone plug in. Just depends on peoples opinions on the DAC in the Z and if getting an external will make a huge difference or not. 

post #20052 of 26181
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Originally Posted by DADDYDC650 View Post
 

Does that actually work with the PS4 though? I don't want to waste time and money into another connection that doesn't work properly.

 

BTW, this page is 1337! I also ordered a replacement y-split cable for my BoomPro. I want to test out another cable before I order the mixamp.

I don't see why it shouldn't work, even on the PS4. And it's cheaper than buying a new Mixamp.

post #20053 of 26181
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Originally Posted by Naingolann View Post
 

I don't see why it shouldn't work, even on the PS4. And it's cheaper than buying a new Mixamp.

I went ahead and ordered it from newegg for 9 bucks with free 2 day shipping. Thanks for the heads up. Hope it works. If not, I can always send it back for a refund.

 

So, I just played a couple of rounds of COD: Ghost on the PS4. Wow! Great clarity, explosions hit very well with no distortion and the sound stage is amazing! I just went 25-5 in TDM. I'm pretty sure that's the best score I've gotten by far. I feel bad for the folks that aren't playing with a setup similar to mine. They had no chance! If the X1's had the same weight of the Sony MA-900's, a little more height adjustment for those bigger heads out there and the ear pads were replaceable, the X1 would be the best headphones ever made for gaming. Another great addition would be a tuck away mic like the Polk Audio 4shot headset. Someone tell the folks in charge @ Philips to get on it! They would make a killing!


Edited by DADDYDC650 - 1/14/14 at 4:11pm
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I wanted to share something I have been trying out over the past few weeks. As many of you know, there is a 'bass port' mod for the akg k7 series of headphones. Well, I modded my AKG k702 annies, and I am really loving it. The extra bass is a lot of fun. I'm sure I gave up something, but I only use these for console gaming atm. Which, is overkill because I am only able to use a stereo signal until my HDMI splitter gets here. 

 

Also, I wanted to share how I overcame the chat functionality on Xbox One, and will have virtual surround again. As many of you know, the Mixamp has an Aux input. So I am currently calling my friends through skype on my computer, and sending the audio signal from the RCA output of my sound card to the Aux Input of the mixamp, and on down the chain. This works rather well, as you can adjust the volume digitally on your computer. 

 

The reason I do this instead of just using the kinect mic is simple. When you are in chat on the Xbox one, it lowers your game volume to an almost inaudible level, this is the same for party chat or skype chat on xbox one. I have found no way to adjust the volume settings on the xbox.  

 

Soon as it arrives I will be using a HDMI splitter to separates the digital audio signal from the Xbox one's Hdmi cable. This will allow me to get full surround sound again. I know many of you already know this, but I thought I would share it again. 


Edited by davisman - 1/14/14 at 4:09pm
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Hello, i just receive the MA900, sound is sooo good, but maybe i'd like a little more bass, i'm waiting for the Turtle Beach DSS (1) do you think the "Bass boost" from DSS will solve my "problem" with any audio input (analog and digital)???

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